Players to bin - April 2018 edition

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  1. Apr 15, 2018
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    Paz ex-Goldman Sachs Janitor, Martial hater

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    With all this chatter about players not being good enough, still lurking dead-wood, etc.

    In the summer transfer window 2018: which names do you let go, no explanations, just cold hard names. Realistic. Split into these buckets:

    Actively sell / let leave:
    Blind
    Darmian
    Shaw
    Smalling
    Fellaini
    Carrick

    Consider selling at right price:
    Martial
    Mata
    Herrera
    Valencia
    Young
    Pogba
    DDG (not out of choice)
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    Igor Drefljak Definitely Russian

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    Blind
    Darmian
    Shaw
    Smalling or Jones
    Rojo
    Fellaini
    Carrick
    Mata
    Martial if he really wants to go.

    Personally, the Likes of Pogba, Martial and co in our attacking positions would be twice the player they are here if they were managed by somebody willing to play on the front foot.
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    I agree with a lot of these names and it scares me that we are still needing so much of a squad rebuild.
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    manichester Full Member

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    Matic would be high on my list he does not do enough consistently and is one of the main reasons for our slow play.
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    simonhch Horrible boss

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    Ace of Spades Full Member

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    Meh, the so called deadwood have hardly played, the players who were shit today were players Jose bought in for a a lot of money, and they have not been good. The problem is deeper than just buying new players and magically expecting to improve leaps and bounds.
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    BluesJr Full Member

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    Valencia
    Smalling
    Mata
    Fellaini
    Blind
    Darmian
    Herrera
    Jones

    All fairly obvious and it’s clear a lot of work still needs to be done. Not all of them will go but hopefully at least a few.
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    automaticflare Full Member

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    Blind is a better footballer than any of our current cente rbacks
    When he played there he was relatively consistent he would also get the ball passed forward quicker than anyone else we have there

    I would rather get rid of both Smalling and jones
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    BluesJr Full Member

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    Mourinho is never going to play him so he may as well just go, he deserves to play somewhere else.
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    Marcky411 Full Member

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    Yes please, get someone who is attack mined with a plan and purpose not continually reactive/defensive like Jose.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    There is a clue in the OP. When half of the team has to be binned, then the problem isn't half of the team.
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    Nuts Full Member

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    I'd rather show Mourinho the door and appoint a manager who get get our squad to play to something anywhere near their level.

    Too many talented players who are not playing, or unhappy, or playing nowhere near our potential. That could be turned around under the right manager.
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    AshRK Full Member

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    Smalling darmian blind Jones fellaini mata shaw young ( feck the idea of having him as a squad player ) .
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    AshRK Full Member

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    If the players are unhappy they can feck off too. You are vastly overeating some of the junk we have. That defence line we have is a joke which shouldn't be there next season. I dont want a situation of seeing a new manager with smalling jones Valencia young fellaini jogging for him. If Jose leave some of these sad feckers can also be gone
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Most of the players that will be sold are those who never play anyway i.e Darmian, Blind, Shaw, Fellaini..etc.

    Only main players who I don't mind seeing their back is Valencia, Mata and Jones.
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    montpelier Full Member

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    My list of complete deadwood is relatively short - Fellaini, Blind, Carrick

    Better than the deadwood but all a bit ''well y'know''- is a lot longer

    The list of who might still be two-thirds here --> definitely here, when we next win the League could still be pretty short - DDG, Bailly, potentially Rashford, potentially Martial, Pogba, Sanchez (I suppose)

    To stick with underneath that - Lingard, Mata, McTom, Lukaku, Herrera (I suppose), and in reality some of the defenders, take your pick

    Preferably out though - all the other defenders

    Must come in - 3 high quality replacements for the 3 at the top
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    Exactly. We can't go out and buy eleven players. Some will go through contracts running out or retiring. Fellaini and Carrick. Herrera might go after next season as his contract will be up and he may want to go back home with his family. Darmian will definitely go. Smalling has been playing, not sure why he would go. It is a right mess. It is more of a worry if the likes of Martial/Pogba go as it reflects badly on the manager and just means we are wasting money and not researching what we really need. We have had a few years of the latter, buying players and binning them at speed.

    I am sure there was a tweet that said he had told Ed the three players he wants. If we got rid of eleven and brought in three, it would leave us just a tad short of players.
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    Castia Full Member

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    Rojo
    Jones
    Blind
    Darmian
    Shaw
    Fellaini
    Mata
    McTominay (season loan to pl team)
    Carrick (retired)

    New additions:
    1 CB
    1 Left Back
    2 Midfielders
    1 right winger
    1 striker

    TFM back from Palace loan to challenge at RB.
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    Gegenpress New Member

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    I’d take Martial in a heartbeat? What the hell has happened with the lad? Looks class anytime I’ve seen him play.
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    ReallyUSA New Member

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    Actively sell / let leave:
    Blind
    Darmian
    Shaw
    Smalling
    Fellaini ( I love the man. Anyone who has to persevere through scrutiny that wasn't your fault can support him. He has been injury prone, and we needed him big this year. If he wants to go, let him go. )
    Carrick
    Martial ( If we can get a high percentage for what we paid for him with a buy-back clause so be it. )
    Mata (Great guy, but we need more. He can go to Serie A, and be a huge contributor. )
    Consider selling at right price:
    Pogba ( United have to put trust in Mou. The team can't have players be above the manager nor the team. Even the comeback kid.)
    DDG (not out of choice)
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    Wumminator The Special One!

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    There’s a lot of things wrong in my opinion. Here’s a handy five point list.

    S. Skills - very skillful but does not graft
    A. attitude - apparently arguing with Jose
    L - liability - doesn’t track back enough
    A - age - too young to be trusted
    H - hype - Jose doesn’t seem to believe in him
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Assuming no other factors like players wanting to leave..
    Not Pogba. He hasn't done enough but could be better if we can sort other problems.
    Mata does the business sometimes. He needs to be a sub and not a starter.
    Herrera can stay for cover.
    I'd consider Blind staying for cover.
    Valencia can be cover for whoever comes in, so long as we have enough squad places.
    Same with Young although less so.

    Who should leave:
    Jones - in all honesty, a waste of a spot. A good defence needs some consistency and all he does is mess it up by coming in then getting injured for the millionth time. He's not good enough to be allowed to continue doing that. Smalling can stay as cover with Rojo.
    Darmian - to make space in the squad for a decent fullback.
    Carrick
    Fellaini - he's not so good at whatever his job is that it warrants keeping hold of him. The one positive about him though..I think if the manager wants us to change tempo (which we need to do), he'd do it. Whether he's good enough at football to make it work, I dunno, but I think he'd do it. I can't see us buying another mid though, when so many other places need sorting first. Can see him lasting another year, although his contract is due up isn't it?
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    Tjm118 New Member

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    Sell/Free Transfer/Retire
    Blind
    Darmian
    Shaw
    Smalling
    Fellaini
    Carrick

    Consider selling at right price:
    Mata
    Valencia (aging)
    Young (aging)
    Jones (Crock)

    I've said this before but I really don't think our back-line is up to scratch because they are either not good enough, aging, or consistently injured.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    We brought Sanchez in and Martial doesn't play well on the right so he made way.
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    dannyrhinos89 OMG socks and sandals lol!

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    just bin Mourinho that’ll improve us straight away.
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    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    There is only one category and that is the dead wood that can't suddenly improve or can't be developed any further.

    1) Fellaini
    2) Darmian
    3) Jones
    4) Mata
    5) Blind
    6) Shaw
    7) Smalling
    8) Herrera
    9) Valencia and Young
    10) Carrick (Retires)
    11) Rojo

    These players cannot be part of the first team next season. I'd consider selling them all if the prices are right.
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    TrebleFan99 New Member

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    Would not sell Pogba or DDG.

    The rest can go no problem. Upgrades needed desperately.. if that’s not possible then play youngsters
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    Isotope Full Member

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    Our attack is more of a joke than defence. Why do we need to focus more of defensive players?
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    Terminator New Member

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    The players are not the problem, selling/buying won't help us.
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    Paz ex-Goldman Sachs Janitor, Martial hater

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    The anti Jose crew in here :lol:
    Do you guys remember Moyes and LVG re their style, results and transfer activities?!
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    Stringer Full Member

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    You have really set the bar high there.
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    devil in me Full Member

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    Its ridiculous that we are having these conversations at every end of season since Fergie left. We seem to have a rebuild every bloody year, yet 8 months later we need another one, because the players we have signed aren't good enough. We should be at the point of just tweaking the squad now, but yet again we need about 6 or 7 gone and the same brought in. Something needs to change, because it will be the exact same thing this summer, followed by another conversation next April/May about how we need to revamp the squad.

    For me, the entire back line, bar maybe Bailly, needs to go. Mata's time here is done. Get rid of Matic, and probably Martial too (more for him than us). Fellaini needs to go, and I'd forgotton Blind existed, so him too.
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    Yeah, todays game reminded me of Newcastle at home with Moyes in charge and most of LGVs efforts!
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    Sing you a song Full Member

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    Valencia
    Smalling
    Jones
    Rojo
    Darmian
    Young
    Shaw
    Fellaini
    Blind
    Herrera
    Mata
    Pogba
    Martial

    Crikey how depressing is that
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Valencia - back up
    Young - back up
    Mata - back up
    Fellaini - Sell
    Darmian - Sell
    Blind - Sell
    Carrick - coaching
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    wolvored Full Member

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    Agreed. Living on past glories. He isnt going to win the league here.
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    Turkleton Full Member

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    Good thing no one is asking for them to get the job. Except Liverpool fans.
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    Jim Beam Full Member

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    You think we need to move 13 players out?
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    FireballXL5 New Member

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    I like to put a positive spin on things so I start with those players I'd keep....

    1) DDG

    Then I'm struggling.
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    It's B Rubble New Member

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    Never on the players and this thread is ridiculous if you consider the last time we were Champs, we finished in 7th with Fellaini in and a shite gaffer. Manager and coaching staff need a deep look in the mirror. The responsiblity of the team lies on the coaches. Lewis Hamilton in a Ford Ka would smoke me if I was driving a Porsche in a race. SAF could only dream to have this sort of embarrasment of riches at his disposal. He won with dross. I am never one to want a manager out but this one needs to sort it out quick or go coach Portugal.