Pochettino: Shaw's attitude & work rate held him back

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    Bwuk Full Member

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    He's not the only one that's hinted at this. Jose, Poch, LvG and Woy have all said similar.
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    Not surprising, sadly.
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    What's up with this Shaw then? He could be England and United Left Back for the next eight years at least... couple of world cups, untold Euro's... the guy is living the dream.

    Is he on the booze? Gambler?

    I actually hope this kids alright...
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    Lazyness.
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    Every manager hes had has said it now then, so I think we can say it's true. Maybe he's another Nick Powell, loads of talent but just not that into football.
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    Fixed that for you :smirk:
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    Most overrated player I remember us having. Shown nothing at United. A flop signing.
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    SirAF Ageist

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    No word about stuff like that, as far as I know.

    Seems just to be a lack of dedication to the lifestyle of a pro athlete - there were talks about him bringing his mates up to live with him when he first came to United. Like a frat house!
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    haram Full Member

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    He's on 70k a week, maybe he doesn't really care about the other stuff.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    I’d put Michael Owen in that category too, despite the more successful career.
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    Counter point. Rashford.

    Shaw is just lazy. Spent half his time here unfit, injured or overweight yet people constantly defend him. Mind boggling.
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    The exception that proves the rule, have you never seen England play?
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    Can you expand on this? Not trying to catch you out or anything but I don't recall Owen not being a committed footballer at any point? It's only really injuries that fecked him, no?
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    ..hmmmm, maybe that's it, maybe he doesn't want the pressures of top flight footie. Probably prefers a kick about and great lifestyle, which is a shame.

    But for £30m, he should show some flaming respect to the club, fans, manager, coaches, physio etc.
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    It's not an english thing at all. Englands national team isn't lazy, it's just full of average players.
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    Such a waste of talent. You have amateur players that take it more seriously with gym, healthy diet and general fitness.

    If he had Ronaldo's work rate with him talent I have no doubt that he would be world class.
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    When people say that if a footballer gets paid a lot, then he should be able to play all the time and never get tired or injured that is clearly nonsense.

    However, for the money they get they should be 100% committed, keep themselves in the best shape and do those things highlighted.
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    Infuriating really.
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    But Poch is like his father..
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    Luke Shaw needs to sit down and speak to Rashford and Kane. And Gareth Bale.. all players who seemed quite prepared to work at their game. Hasn't done them any harm.

    If this is fact, he can get off of our wage bill.
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    Not really something new. When most of his managers questioned this you can't ignore it.

    He's one of these players that got talent but never got the work rate to put his talent to work. We see plenty of them anyway.
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    Absolutely! At 18 he had everything needed to become a top class LB: raw pace, strong as an ox, good 1v1.

    I was so excited when he signed for United - more excited than the DiMaria and Falcao signings ffs :lol:
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    I agree. it's a little harsh on Owen.
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    Didn't Shaw contribute to the book in some form?
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    Red Katie The least positive person in match threads ever

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    But I thought Mourinho had an agenda against the lad.
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    He's likely just not a mature 22 year old. God knows what i'd have been like with 70k a week living in a bubble at 22. Unfortunately not everyone at that age is a Rashford personality wise.
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    If as it seems is the case the lad's not able to concentrate or not prepared to do what is necessary, then why is Jose still tolerating him? His very bad injury may have extended is 'stay' at Old Trafford, but why is he still apparently being considered? If he has managed to put off 3 or 4 managers (including the national team manager), why is he still being given 'food and lodgings' at OT, is Jose waiting for Shaw to experience the 'blinding light on the road to Damascus' moment or what?

    They say 'body language' is a good indicator, well for me every time Shaw runs on to the pitch he seems like the kid who turns up late for a kick-about in the park, then asks " which side am I on?" "who do I pass to"? "Do you want me to play out here, shall I run up and down this touchline, what else have I to do?"

    'Head not being in the right place', is a good description.​
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    Is there where we start the Shaw is a fat, overpaid bum thread?
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    That could mean a lot of different things. What is the full context of that quote?
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    That's just not true. Before his injury he put in some great performances and showed that he had more than enough skill to make that LB position his for years to come.
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    People wasting great talent is right up there on the list of things that really piss me off.
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    I'm not so sure he is :lol:
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    Funny how now Pochettino has said it it’s confirmed and not just big bad Jose being a meany :lol:.
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    sammsky1 Pochettino's #1 fan

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    The final nail in the coffin.

    Feels like Januzaj all over again, in that its always somebody else's fault, when the reality is that he has some fundamental issues only he can resolve.
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    Infuriating player.

    If his head was in the right place, he could probably have filled Mata's role in the squad with the bonus of being from the academy.
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    Maybe the point Pochettino is referencing to, is United turning his head and Pochettino thought it was too much, too soon for Shaw to take on. The decision he mentions would be staying at Southampton and the sacrifice would be rejecting the massive wage hike he got by joining United.
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    Oh shit, et tu Poch? Some people must be crying after reading those quotes. Might actually be something wrong with Shaw.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Didn’t he admit to being much more interested in the horses than football, from fairly early on in his career? Which also explains his utter cluelessness as a pundit.
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    True, but if he's a lazy git what can you do?