Pogba vs De Bruyne: who is the better passer?

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    Pogba.
    KdB is a fantastic player, but I'm a complete Pogba fanboy on this part.
    That said, my issue with Pogba is when he "turns off" when he loses the ball instead of immediately tracking back and getting a challenge in or cover a pass-option fast.
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    Nothing better than an outside of the boot crossfield pass from Pogba.

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    I think you’ll find both are also French. :p
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    If we ever get Pogba playing in his Juventus position on the left attacking side of a 3-man midfield, I'd like to see whether the view of his limitations as a final third player change. Think he's being given the short end of the stick here, not that anyone is saying he's bad at passing, per se, but he's being undersold even when complimented.
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    Very good point.
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    When we talk about the best passers in the league you talk about Silva,Fabregas and KDB sometimes Eriksen and Ozil.

    Pogba has a great range but its just that, he's not even the best in the league when it comes to long balls over the top or into space.

    KDB is a better passer of the ball, also KDB can do the long range of passing pogba does as well, he might not be flashy with all the flair but his technique is miles ahead of pogba.
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    De Bruyne he is not. Just leave it. He has other strengths that De Bruyne doesn't have, but as far as playmaking ability in the final 3rd goes there's no comparison. De Bruyne's vision, passing, positioning, ability to create space for himself or a teammate, all of it. He's just a better attacking player than Pogba overall.
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    KDB's final ball from the wing along the ground

    Pogba for all other balls.
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    Leave it! It ain't wurf it! Walk away!

    I imagine you don't know who Phil Mitchell is, but I read your post with him as narrator.

    Anyway, I'll stop now, even if I don't think there's an enormous gulf between them.
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    Got to love Pogba's weight of pass too. Perfect tempo for Fellaini's chest to control that rocket.

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    Pogba, hands down.
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    Biggest bs there is. Skills are things you can learn rather easily and almost every footballer can master. But technique some have a limit. Some can train everyday with the ball, but their touch or close controll will never be good/great/elite. History in football and my time playing football on the streets have shown me that. Skills everyone can learn, you just need the personality(as in flair) to want to display that in your play. Players like lets say Messi or KDB could learn every skill there is, but it isnt just in their personality to do so. Skills/flair are entertainment, but overrated. Give me a player like David Silva with no flair, but with the best close control, touch, sense of space and decision making there is.
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    Pogba is averaging an assist once every 143 minutes in all competitions and in 137 minutes in just PL this season.

    KDB is averaging an assist once every 156 minutes in all competitions and in 161 minutes in just PL this season.

    I would also venture to guess that if we had been just average in our goal scoring last season Pogba's assist numbers would also compare relatively even to KDB overall in his 2 seasons in England.
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    De Bruyne, clearly. Only on a message board for United fans would anyone suggest otherwise.
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    De Bruyne was never at Gladbach. In Germany he played for Bremen and Wolfsburg.
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    Pogba is a better passer than de Bruyne.
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    D-oh! Was going to mention Gladbach for Netzer - but wrote is next to De Bruyne for some odd reason. :lol:

    Cheers! Fixed.
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    Haha
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    I agree that those players are better passers but its not the gulf in-between that this post makes it sound like imo. Pogba is a nice passer but he doesn't possess the vision of the true greats just yet.
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    feck me, another thread, another one of these bollocks comments.

    No mate, Pogba is World renowned, adored if you will and went for a World record fee not because just fcuking United fans rate him. :houllier:
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    PogPass, ffs! :lol:



    What would his numbers look like if the players he's slotting in would actually convert?
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    :lol:

    That's that then! Jev has declared it thus.
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    If you put them both up for sale tomorrow, Pogba would fetch the higher fee.

    Whether that's correct or not based upon their talent isn't for me to say, but it certainly proves what a total bullshit comment Jev's is. I absolutely detest those kind of posts, as though we comparing fecking Lingard and De Bruyne rather than Paul fecking Pogba, the third most expensive player in history.
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    your high man. KDB would.
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    Not a chance, as I say, it may or may not be fair in terms of their ability/talent but there is zero doubt that Pogba would fetch the higher fee.

    And for future reference it's "you're", as in "you are high".
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    KDB.

    The only place where Pogba would win is on redcafe (note that I didn't even say United fans, because KDB would probably win overall on other forums).
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    What a useless comment. They are currently 2 of the best players in the league right now. When he was at Juventus, people fawned over Pogba, making your comment null and void.
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    Wrong
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    I don't post on other forums but I doubt that there is a more tolerant United forum. Many United fans on here would vote for KDB regarding passing ability.
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    I love the line of reasoning, used multiple times thus far, whereby "we're on redcafe, so if I disagree with the opinion I'll just point out that the forum and fans are inherently biased and dismiss everything they say."

    It's not like we're comparing Lingard with De Bruyne. It's bloody Pogba.
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    Fat chance that. Not in a climate in which the likes of Souness go on live TV after he helps demolish Arsenal claiming he doesn't do enough in big games, is a tactical liability and makes no difference to United offensively.
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    Two stats re: passing are identical. Both Pogba and KDB have 84% pass accuracy and 17m average pass length. KDB tends to create more chances. He has played twice as many minutes as Pogba and has created three times as many chances: 46:15.
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    If the highest level of skills are something everybody can learn with train, why you never see players coming from methodic football nations with the same flair of the best South Americans?
    You think if Fellaini train very hard he can dribble pass an entire defense like Maradona or Messi?

    Its exactly the contrary of what you said.
    The first day you play football you realize that there are individuals that are just naturally better.
    Its the same as any other human activity. You can train as you want but you can't paint like Picasso.
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    No i don't know who Phil Mitchell is, i had morgan freeman in mind :lol:

    Yeah it's not an enormous or even big gulf
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    He takes all their set pieces though does he not?
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    Its KDB for now. His choice of pass and final pass is almost flawless it also helps that he's so consistent and doesn't waste passes. His assists stats tell the whole story really, whether he's in a counter attacking team or possession based side he delivers.

    However as a few others have mentioned, Pogba clearly has the better range. Long range passing, weaker foot, chipped in balls over the defence etc. If he was become as efficient with the ball as the likes of KDB, Silva and Ozil, he will be the best passer of the ball in the world because he has the ability to hit any pass whereas the others don't.
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    Most of them.

    Why wouldn't Pogba take set peices? Isn't he good enough to take them? Who is better at United than him?
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    Because he's a goalscoring threat.
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    Didn't Mkhi get something like 23 assists in his last season at Dortmund?
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    RvP wasn't?