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Potential Matic Replacements

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by FootyGirl88, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. Mar 11, 2019

    Adnan Full Member

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    I've never seen Ascacibar play but just threw his name out there due to afew posters mentioning him.

    Allan would be a great signing but not for the price De Laurentiis will ask for. We need a DM that not only can pass to a good level, but also has the energy and drive to get around the pitch ala Kante. I think it's very important he has both qualities.
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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    Because he got time left on his contract, is in his prime, highly regarded, PSG is after him, "rumours " state that Napoli wants somewhere in that area, Napoli is not a poor or small club by any means.... Meaning that buying one of their best players will not be cheap.
    I do not think there is a club in this world that would not start him if he was in their squad.
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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    That seriously limits the number of potential players.
    Passing and Kante(e)sque mobility. Do not know about such a player that plays as a CDM other than Allan. My best bet here would be to buy a wingback and convert him into a CDM, or maybe a winger.

    The passing issue could to some degree be mitigated by having better ball players at FB and not playing Smalling/Bailly.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Allan is no Matic though, but he'd make a good pair with Herrera in a double pivot. Energy, tenacity, ball-wining, intensity. Not bad on the ball either.
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    Patrick08 Full Member

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    Like?
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    Well Kante, Fernandinho and Torreira are all much smaller for starters, then there's Allan, Verratti and Ascacibar, even Casemiro isn't a giant, there's Gueye at Everton and Moutinho has been playing the role at Wolves while Jorginho has been at Chelsea and some would argue Ndombele at Lyon, another sub 6 footer. That's just off the top of my head, and one of the best DM's in recent PL history was Mascherano and he was small as well, even Winks has been playing deepest for Spurs at times this season.
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    SER19 Full Member

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    Verratti would be great. Unpopular shout coming but what are people's opinions on kroos. Badly needs a new challenge and is only 30
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    FootyGirl88

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    I like Verratti too but I doubt PSG will sell him :(
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    Eleven-Eighteen New Member

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    What's the point? We'd just be in the market back again in a couple of years. Or worse, he fails to adapt to the PL and to United, as Germans often do, and we'll be stuck with a huge wage bill and a lot of unhappy fans
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    SER19 Full Member

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    Yeah a gamble for sure. 2-3 years wouldn't be bad though if there is a genuine hope mctominay garner or Fred can evolve.
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    SER19 Full Member

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    He could kick up a massive sulk I guess but I've heard stories about his motivation so maybe he's happy to phone it in at psg
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    FootyGirl88

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    He tried that when Barca came calling and the owners sent the heavies round to visit him :wenger:
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    MemphisThePie Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Renato Sanches on a cheap next summer.
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    FootyGirl88

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    What did we think of Neves tonight?
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    Ander herrera the warrior New Member

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    Would have made the difference if he was on our side. You could just see how their passing was much better and that's mainly down to both Neves and Moutinho
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    Totally disagree on Ascacibar and I notice you mention Declan Rice as a promising central midfielder which I do agree with. Ascacibar excels in certain areas that make Rice promising. He has great postioning and reading of the game and fills in the holes really really well. He does the simple things well in that way like Rice does, like Carrick used to do. He doesnt have the technique of either or calmness on the ball and weight of pass....but he does have a huge heart and desire that reminds me of Gattuso. Feel you could level these kind of Lee Cattermole comments towards Herrera and Torreira for example which would be totally unfair and wrong and for me Ascacibar is already better than both.

    Personally dont get why people are saying Allan, his age, the cost. Isnt he just a good player in a good side that is techincal.....like Jorghino was?

    Only youtube videos which of course you cant see too much from, but Tonali looks a bit special. Him, Ascacibar or Ndombele would have to be my main choices.

    I think Matic has done well for us overall, shields the ball really well, his positioning and reading of the game and calmness on the ball also been very good. I do think he is really sloppy far too often with the ball though and also he doesnt seem to win very many tackles, he only really seems to win the ball when he gets his body between the player and ball....or he fouls.

    Now that the honeymoon Ole period seems to be over, regardless of the results I a enjoying watching us play again, the players are performing better and the atmosphere is good......but we are still really not good enough individually in so many areas
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    Aloysius's Back 3 Full Member

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    Can declan rice pass to a decent level?

    Of course not in terms of Carrick or Scholes but better than Herrera?
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    McTominay anyone?
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    deadrevelz Full Member

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    Few times during the game I thought how much we could use someone like him... not against Wolves though.
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    Champagne Football Full Member

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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    At first i thought Rice was only hardworking and effort, but after watching him play he has a good foot and his touch is actually pretty decent.

    Ascacibar style of play and abilites are suited for teams not wanting to dominate games. Similar to how we play sometimes against better teams, especially away. Problem is that he is not mobile enough to be efficent against technical good teams to be efficent.

    Agree on the bold part.
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    Thats fair enough, its opinions, I respect yours, but I do disagree, on the mobile part too :) He is pretty quick