Potential Matic Replacements

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by FootyGirl88, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. Jun 12, 2019 at 23:36

    sherrinford Full Member

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    My understanding is that a deep midfield pair of Ndombele and Aouar was generally favoured, with Tousart second fiddle (and as the anchor whenever he played) and a three man midfield (one no.6 with two no.8s) very much the alternative.

    That’s not to say he couldn’t have been deployed primarily out of position. He did look comfortable sitting though - does he have the engine to go box to box? And I’m not sure it is more acceptable to have erratic passing as a no.8? I liked his passing - very positive - but I can see him misplacing a few, yes, due to his choice of pass.
  2. Jun 13, 2019 at 01:06

    Champagne Football Full Member

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    Milinkovic-Savic seems perfect for the PL despite a poor season. Has played as a deep-lying playmaker often before.
  3. Jun 13, 2019 at 10:05

    sherrinford Full Member

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    ‘Reasonably’ strong, and four months at a good level is certainly more than we’ve had from our right wing over a similar period. He has not been a good purchase though, because he was a short term signing which was unnecessary.

    Herrera excelled in Mourinho’s first season when he, as well as Carrick, got a run in the side - Fellaini was tried with Pogba first. He did play higher, with Carrick behind him and Pogba, as the energetic pressing midfielder you describe. But then Jose removed Carrick (for no good reason as far as I can remember, unless that was when he started having health issues?) and went to a 4-2-3-1 with Herrera and Pogba deep in midfield. Ander played as the holder and his performances got better and were consistently great finishing the season. Hence why Matic was not needed.

    Pogba is capable of playing consistently in a deep no.8 position and would fit the description of controller/ playmaker, interpreting the role in broadly the way that players like Rabiot, Thiago, Modric, Kroos and Verratti do. There was plenty of evidence of this early on in his career here, but it has been less and less apparent as time has went on - due to all his issues (motivation, immaturity, disillusionment, condition?) and also because he has been deployed there less frequently. He is very strong in that role for France, with him being the best midfielder at the World Cup last year.

    I think, in Herrera and Pogba, we have had the right personnel here in recent seasons but management have made poor decisions with how to utilise them and build around them in terms of recruitment.

    As things stand, for the holding midfield role we could go for either a ‘passer’ or a ‘destroyer’ as we still also need - even more urgently, in fact - a player for the third midfield position too. Both positions, along with the intended role for Pogba, need to be taken into account when deciding who to go for. Buy a destructive anchorman to pair with Pogba deep and get in a proper no.10, or purchase a metronomic distributor at no.6 and a combative box to box player in the other no.8 position to compliment Pogba in the role he was deployed in the second half of the season.

    It’s probably looking for too much though to expect two midfield signings while retaining Pogba, if we are in the market for a right back and centre half as well. Unless we are able to avoid a big transfer fee by bringing in someone like Rabiot on a free - but he doesn’t really fit with Pogba in any standard way (unless he indeed can, and actually would, play in the holding role). This is also assuming that we will play a regular shape (4-3-3/ 4-2-3-1) and Daniel James will be tried at right wing, without considering what needs to happen with Lukaku and Sanchez - so there could be much more necessary work on top of that. A centre half, right back and two from a no.8, no.10 and a right winger depending on the envisioned formation, could all be prioritised over a holding midfielder.
  4. Jun 13, 2019 at 11:27

    sp_107 New Member

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    What about Barella (Xavi said he can be next scholes and highly rated by all Italian top manages) and we made a 30M€ bid in January too for him, I play him next to Ndombele if Pogba leaves

    With Ndombele/Barella/Bruno by using Pogba money our midfield is sorted for next 10 years

    With Pogba/ Lukaku / Fred/ Matic money we can do this and also we can also add van beek for 40 millions as a back up

    Last year our defence was badly exposed because of weak midfield. By adding AWB and a CD to the above guys we will be a force to reckon with, also not too much to spend as we are getting good money on sales!

    What you guys think ?
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  5. Jun 13, 2019 at 12:21

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  6. Jun 13, 2019 at 13:12

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    I hope Pogba stays, but that would be a great midfield. Maybe I would change Fernandes for Havertz, but I know the latter is a bit unrealistic at the moment.

    A dynamic midfield of 2 with N'Domdele and Barella would be balanced with a No.10 in front of them.
  7. Jun 13, 2019 at 13:18

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    Rodri would be ideal, but a midfield of 2 with Barella and N'Dombele would be a big improvement in our midfield.
  8. Jun 13, 2019 at 16:40

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    I'd take Thomas Partey from Atletico. Everyone from Atleti youth system were never be disapointment for any club in PL.
  9. Jun 13, 2019 at 17:38

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    I did mention harvertz name few times as I genuinely believe he could become the best midfielder of this generation but I feel it's Bayern Munich written all over him hence I went with Ndombele/Barella/ Bruno midfield.

    but we are seriously being linked to Rakatic in last few days. Seems Ole wants him but he is already 31 and not keen on leaving Barca. what you guys think of having Rakatic for few seasons instead of going for someone like Auoar or Barrella?
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