Rashford probably needs to leave - Jamie Redknapp

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    Greck Full Member

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    There's some merit to this thought. I think he'll give it another 12 months and begin to rethink his situation if it's the same ie 12th man.

    On one hand he could draw inspiration from Martial who fought tooth and nail to reclaim that spot, on the other hand he'll need to elevate and develop his game massively to do so, which isn't the easiest thing coming off the bench
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    I don't know about you, but I think United need to employ some of these ex-LFC pundit characters. Then they can contribute their venerable opinions on the minutiae of any team/squad issues at the club. That way the club can factor in their wise opinions. Otherwise they're in danger of looking like has-beens spouting utter conjecture for money.
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    RedPed Full Member

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    Like you said, Martial did it and it's paying dividends now with him becoming undroppable. Martial's hands down the best finisher we have at the moment. Rashford's got the potential to match that and just needs to knuckle down and sort it. It's so frustrating that we've never really had all of the front line firing on all cylinders at the same time. We'd be devasting when that happens.
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    crossy1686 Full Member

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    Why can't Rashford stay and just get better like Lingard did? Competition for places at a high standard makes players better, not playing week in, week out for the likes of Stoke. If Rashford doesn't want to be the first name on the bench then he can change that by putting one of those players out of the team. The manager picks the squad based on training ground performances, Rashford knows what he has to do to be in the first team.
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    Post of the year
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    Baby Groot Banned

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    I did like too have whatever Jamie redknapp is smoking, must be some pretty strong stuff.
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    Fully Fledged Full Member

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    I think Jamie Rednapp needs to leave and get a job he's got a clue about. He's robbing a living talking ballcocks on the tv and in the papers.
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    Wonder if Jamie will do the same article for Phil Foden now that City are buying up the whole league.
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    Denis' cuff Full Member

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    Should play him the full 90 in every game from a young age, like Liverpool did with Fowler and Owen, so desperate were they to keep up with top clubs, they were burned out and weren’t allowed proper recovery time from injuries.
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    Not sure why everyone is disagreeing.

    Yes, he has played alot of games this season but that was before Alexis joined. A loan wouldn't be so strange. A young and talented player like Rashford needs to play every match in his favorite position to fulfil his potential.
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    Brooding ill prick is what Redknapp is.
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    We have three forward positions. He can play in all three and we only have 4 or 5 players who can fill them. He's 20, played more minutes than most of the squad and started alongside the player he allegedly needs to worry about taking away his place. He has nothing to worry about whatsoever. Mourinho clearly likes him, did he not even put Alexis next to him in the locker room to help create a bond? Also, wasn't it Martial who needed to worry last week?

    It's daft to even indulge this rubbish. If Rashford left, then we would need another forward.
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    beedoubleyou Full Member

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    Also, Rashford has made nearly twice as many United appearances as Redknapp had made for the Scousers at the same age. It's just a pathetic Scouse dig from a man who opens his mouth without a clue what's about to happen next.
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    Of course rashford can stay. Lingards still here after being on loan at a few clubs so rashford staying isnt just like lingard did as rashford hasnt gone anywhere.

    You seem to think players playing with better better players automatically makes that individual a better player judging by your stoke comment. If rashford went on loan to the likes of stoke, ive no doubt hed get regular games, score plenty of goals and hed return a more confident player. Going by your theory, no big club should ever loan out a player.

    You dont know what the manager picks his squad based on. Id hazard a guess its performances on the pitch where it counts and not the training ground
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    all these numbers being quoted by people is playing time before sanchez signed. i think it will be very difficult for rashord to be in the starting 11 in most games. i think lukaku, martial,sanchez and lingard are ahead of him.

    i also think he should be loaned next season. because if we sign a right winger in the summer then it will get even more difficult for him. he is still young loan him out next summer i say.
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    Loaning him won't serve him any good.

    He should prove his worth by fighting to get a place. Lingard was a nobody few months ago and was doomed as a squad option for cup games only. His quality, goals and performance raised him to become a start. If Lingard can do this why Rashford can't ? It's better for him to prove his worthiness here rather going for a useless loan.
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    Why would Jose even entertain the idea of a loan? Big clubs do not loan out players that are an integral part of the first team squad and Rashford, when you consider the fact that he has been an ever-present from day 1, is most definitely a key figure in that squad. He has also featured for England on a regular basis during that period.
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    Since when quotes by Jamie the brainless II deserve their own thread? No one gives a shit what he thinks.
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    Jose wouldn't entertain it. He is a key figure in the squad youre right, but not in the first team as a regular starter. As ive said previously, hes too good to loan anyway but its not a bad option for his game if it were to happen.
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    Very unlikely to happen all things considered.

    I think much of this "Rashford needs to leave in order for his career to progress" narrative has been influenced heavily by his current poor form. As soon as Rashford starts showing good form, the fickle journos and pundits will be referring to him as England's great hope once again.

    It's almost as if these lads cannot grasp the fact that a young player will perform inconsistently. Thank God Jose understands that.
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    RedDevilRoshi New Member

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    To put it nicely, that is an absolute pile of horse s****

    Is he now going to say Stones should leave because City just signed Laporte.

    Guy just loves the sound of his own voice.
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    ZAGREB RED Full Member

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    I don't mind Redknapp as a pundit, he is a fairly likeable character, like his Dad, but as the previous poster said is he going to advise Stones to leave City now they have signed Laporte. United brought in Sanchez but also lost Mkhitaryan so it doesn't make sense to lose another attacking player with three trophies still to play for.
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    Louise probably needs to leave - Jamie Redknapp.

    Oh wait....
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    Redman24 Banned

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    Lingard himself will find it difficult to get games next year as i think we will either get another CM and change the system to not have a number 10 or Sanchez will be the number 10 while a right winger is signed. either way Lingard will not be a starter come August. We need to look at the bigger picture, it is better for Rashford to play games to further his development and at united it will get very difficult, he is still a young lad.
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    Totally agree , he is an absolute whopper .

    Jamie Redknapp honours - League cup , Charity shield , UEFA Super cup .

    Marcus Rashford honours - League cup , Charity shield , Europa League , FA Cup .
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    VP89 Pogba's biggest fan

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    Wonder if he thinks Sterling needs to leave now.
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    Someone needs to ask Jamie if Bernardo Silva needs to leave City? :lol:
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    The guy is manchester through and through.
    But i can see him leaving in a couple of seasons if we sign another forward that doesn't play on the right. Sometimes you need to put yourself first.

    That being said, i cant see him leaving any time soon
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    Not me mate, ask Fergie. He always said that young players learn more from training with great players than they even would playing for a small time team week in week out. If you're happy to disagree with Fergie's stance on the matter then by my guest, personally, I trust his judgement.

    Managers talk about training ground intensity all the time. Again, watch any documentary involving any of Fergie's players from 1995 onwards. They all say the toughest, most intense games they ever played were the 7 vs 7 in training the day before a game. It was such a high standard and so intense for that matter it made the game at the weekend easy in comparison. Think about the competition you've got at United's training ground then think about the players you're competing against on West Brom's, how would that help anyone's development?
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    However even if that happens Lingard won't leave. He'll stay and work hard to earn his chances in the team.

    Going on a loan to play for a midtable club won't do Rashford any good. If he wants to complete his development it should be here. Learn and compete with top players and work hard to earn your chances rather than playing with average players in an average club.
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    This. Besides his current slump in form seems to be all in his head. He makes greedy and stupid decisions in order to impress, so getting time just to be played back into form seems counter productive to me.
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    soap Directionless weirdo who like booze and ganja

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    Rashford will continue to compete with Martial for the left wing slot and occasionally play upfront, same as now. Sanchez will play on the right.

    Mata might have to leave, not Rashford.
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    Redman24 Banned

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    I agree Lingard wont leave, because he is happy to be a squad player at united. But i am not sure if Rashford will be able to take it. These players have agents who would love to see them move from one club to another just to get more money. What do you think his agent will do when he senses that Rashford is not so happy at being a bench player.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    And what makes you believe when he leaves for a loan to play for a midtable club with average players he'll return all of sudden to become a starting player here?

    What I know is If he wants to prove himself worth of a starting position here, it's by taking the consistent chances he gets every match and proves he's better than what are playing in his position or at least on a similar level. He's not like Axel or TFM who were getting barely any chances so was better to go on a loan. Rashford is playing regularly, featuring every match and always takes chances each game. Going on a loan now will just prove that he's not capable of competing with the players in his position so decided to take the easy step. I don't think Rashford thinks that way.
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    A loan for Rashford would be a good idea if he wasn’t getting playing time here, but he is featuring every week, so getting playing time at a better club, alongside better players which is better than playing a a weaker club.
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    Well my friend you are entitled to your optimistic opinion... I've never said I don't rate Rashford though. I, unlike you, am looking at the bigger picture, United is moving towards improving year in year out, sadly this will see many leaving in a span of 2-3 years. Rashford isn't one of them, though if he doesn't improve he sadly won't be good enough for our first eleven and he'll fall down the pecking order resulting in a possible loan, thats what I ment with walking the plank, should have used a different term.

    Whats even worse, with the addition of Alexis he isn't even currently good enough, he'll still get a lot of game time since the squad isn't any bigger with Mkhi leaving but for how long and at whose expence ? (Angel Gomes, Chong etc.)

    I said 1.5 seasons, looking at that number I might have taken it too far, lets say 2.5 to be more realistic. He is more then good enough to be a squad player, but I have higher expectations of him and I hope he does of himself as well.

    Anyway these discussions are tedius, only way to know who's right is to fast forward 3 years.
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    In reality, we only have 1 striker, why wouldn't we make Marcus the 2nd? Lukaku will need his time off, and Rashford can also be a regular sub for LW/RW/ST. There will be enough time for everybody.
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    "I am concerned and feel sorry for Rashford and Lindegaard" - Jamie Redknapp on SSN right now

    Yeah so concerned and sorry he doesn't even know the player's name :rolleyes: