Rio Ferdinand

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    Logan! Banned

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    An unsung hero. He's been immense in the last two games and his return has coincided with two fantastic performances.

    Could maybe have done better for Tevez's goal tonight, but overall it's great to have such a natural leader in the back four again.

    He brings a real sense of calm to the defence and his return has also coincided with an upturn in Jonny Evans' form. He looks much more assured when alongside Rio than he does alongside Brown and the whole defence feels more secure with him in it.

    Fingers crosses he can stay fit for the remainder of the season because there are some massive games coming up.
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    Agreed, he'll probably miss the next 3 games now though, the bellend.
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    Ferdinand out...Vidic in...

    Not bad.
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    Is Vidic definitely back for the Arsenal game ?
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    Ole's_toe_poke Ole_Aged_Slow_Poke

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    He was on the bench tonight. I see no reason why he shouldn't be.
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    Shame he had to be a bit of a twat and get a probable 3 match ban, its clear to a blind man how much stronger and far more composed our defence looks with him in the side.....makes it even more annoying that this ban was totally unnecessary.

    Jonny Evans also to me looks a far better defender when hes alongside either Rio or Vidic, tonight he was excellent yet partnered with Brown hes looked a shambles at times, just hope Vidic comes back for Sunday and we don’t miss Rio to badly….
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    Logan! Banned

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    Wasn't he on the bench tonight?
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    Because he is challenging the charge he would face 4 games out if they still charge him of violent conduct.
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    Logan! Banned

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    Did anyone see Fergie's pre match interview?

    I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something along the lines of "I think he had justification for it(swinging at Fagan)."

    There were rumours that Fagan made a comment about Van der Sar's wife. Could this have something to do with that?
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    EdWeatherall Better than niMic

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    That's far from certain, but more than likely, as he does appear to be fairly bang to rights
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    Not necessarily, that is only if the FA consider the challenge to be frivolous.
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    He was asked about challenging the charge and he said they were challenging it because he thought they had a case to make against it.
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    Yeah I know that, I just didn't remember the wording.

    It's hard to imagine what case he's going to present to defend whacking someone round the head?
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    Well, I hope the case isn't about Fagan saying something about Edwin's wife. Disgusting as it may be, it won't get him off the hook.

    I wouldn't hold my breath. Having a good case is pointless when you are up against the FA. The make up their own rules as they go along. The four games out is not happening, IMO. It'll be three. Some people have jumped to conclusions. It's rare that a player receives an extra match ban. And you do NOT get an extra match ban just for asking an appeal and losing it. It doesn't work that way.
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    In the interview he said they are going to go with that they were jostling and he was being held and he tried to get free and resulted in him fling around and catching Fagan. He said hopefully they'll be reasonable and take that into account

    I don't think it will wash with the FA.

    But, for me based on that argument and what has been caught on tape, not sure if the FA can prove their case of violent conduct, it's difficult to see. The bias was set ahead of time with the commentators saying a punch by Rio - never was a punch. Eh can always hope but, glad to see Vida back on the bench. Hopefully he is ready for Sunday.

    Edit: just listened to SAF again and he mentions that Rio was getting punched.
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    I think he'll have a good chance if he uses the Mascherano against Leeds incident as an example. For me, the incidents were almost identical, yet Mascherano received no punishment.
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    I hope that isn't true that Fagan said something about VDS's wife, if he did he's a despicable little cnut. Not that we didn't already know that.
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    Sir Alex feels optimistic about the outcome. He said: "If it’s a fair hearing then he has a good chance. He was wrestled and punched, all sorts of things happened to him, and he was just trying to wrestle free from it. Unfortunately for us he’s caught him [Fagan] on the back of the head. But we will contest it."
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    Sorry I thought you were asking what he'd said. I didn't get the impression he was saying Rio was justified, more that they thought they had a good case against the charge. From what I've heard they are going to argue the inconsistency of the decision from the FA and point to other incidents that have gone ignored.
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    Best defender in the world for me. And the Tevez goal, well he couldn't do much when he was going to head the ball and Tevez swung his boot, right?
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    Rio was going backwards, not much else he could do to get his head on the ball before Tevez got there.
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    It did for Aliadiere.
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    and Michael Turner.
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    johnmufc More space between ears than Scholesy

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    Yes, Rio was brilliant. Evans also looked much more comfortable and confident playing alongside Rio.

    A fully fit and in form Rio Ferdinand will give us a tremendous boost. There's not a better central defender in the world.
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    That was a ridiculous decision. I don't quite understand these extended bans for wasting their time. Is it not their fecking job to listen to appeals? It seems rather silly to punish people for making them do their jobs.
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    He def is a quality player to have makes the backline look a lot more assured
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    No. Some people are treating this as if appealing and losing the appeal means an automatic extra match ban. It is not, and wasn't in those cases. It's a possibility, but it depends on how good a case we present. Obviously, we'll never really know that.
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    Tumbling-Dice Caf Nostradamus

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    Aliadiere's was a joke of a banning anyway (as was Turners) but he received an extra match ban just because Boro appealed it. He just patted Mascherano on the cheek and he went down in a heap.
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    rio back (temporarily ;)), vid nearly back. keeping fingers crossed that everyone can stay healthy for the stretch run.
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    Ya never know if lady luck is really nice to us we might even be able to face AC Milan with a proper defence!! :drool: when was the last time that happened?
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    been ages!
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    I haven't a clue as regarding to any of the incidents. But you do NOT get an extra match ban just for appealing. You could if your appeal is pointless.

    In any case, this really is a weapon that should only be used in extreme cases.
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    Tumbling-Dice Caf Nostradamus

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    Yes, you are 100% correct there, but what the FA deem as frivolous/pointless is down to interpretation and as we all know that interpretation will be dodgy at the best of times.

    This is what happened in the Aliadiere case, taken from Wiki.

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    Any idea when the decision will be announced

    From what I saw of the incident, I can't see how he can avoid a ban
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    I don't know if he can be considered an unsung hero when he's our best defender.
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    fitness?
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    Rio was superb last night and it's nice to have that reassuring presence back in the back four. Hopefully he can help us retain some stability in defence and keep fit, as he'll be an integral part of our title challenge if he can.

    Good signs though. I was impressed by how well he slotted back into the side against Hull and last night, but I guess that's what top-quality players can do.
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    you can bet they will
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    He wasnt tested too much in the Hull game - for me, he did well in that game, but looked a litttle rusty - though thats to be expected.

    Last night we was good, though far from his best.

    The biggest thing about having Rio back is that whoever he plays with always plays better. I thought Evans was fantastic last night.
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    he'll get off...

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