Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by KM, Aug 15, 2012.
He's so charming in interviews. Makes me want to buy him a drink.
A class act. Enhances our record with Dutch players.
Wenger says he turned down £300k a week to play for us but I'm sure a certain someone will turn up and say he's still a merchant because he's earning more now.
Ah yeah it's nothing to do with trophies though, not even in the slightest like.
I love him, when we were first linked with him I wasn't so keen on him, I still remember reading the headline when he first joined us. I instantly let out a vicious scream and thought of all the great moments he would be living with us. His technique, his left foot, his turns and his face are all so beautiful and I hope he breaks many records.
All about money, City didn't want him anymore so we were the only one in the running according to this 'certain someone' wasn't it? Lawlzies.
Classy of van Persie to not break this fact to shut up the "it was all about the money" brigade himself. Guess he can't be arsed.
Robin van Pursestrings
A lot of respect to Wenger the way he speaks about van Persie despite seeing him leave for a big rival.
And the funny thing is - despite him costing us £24 millioner + a lot in wages, chances are he has already paid the majority of it back by keeping us near the top more or less single-handedly in the first 5-6 games.
You'd think, given the current incendiary football climate, the media would avoid stirring up any potential crowd trouble; not so...Goal.com leads today with an exclusive (from an anonymous source, naturally) claiming that Van Persie had an 'explosive' meeting with Arsene Wenger before RVP's move to United. The article practically absolves both the manager & Van Persie's former club of blame for RVP's departure (how predictable...), stating that Robin demanded the signing of world-class players and the appointment of a genuine assistant manager, not a 'yes' man like Steve Bould. All this, of course, makes RVP appear to be an egomaniac who thought he was bigger than the club & his coach, and makes Wenger look as if he had no option but to sell the 'greedy, wantaway star'.
Naturally, this kind of slanted puff piece for Arsenal's benefit will heighten the hostility towards RVP on Saturday; it's the type of sourceless, biased nonsense anyone could make up. Fans are often only too willing to take their club's side, even against common sense - the incurious thinking is 'Players are all overpaid and greedy, so Player X has betrayed our club!'; this is naive, and clubs play on this somewhat understandable club-loyalty (as Arsenal appear to be doing here). Even if the story were true, few enough Arsenal fans will appreciate the subtext: that Arsenal, and Wenger, need a change of approach regarding their mutual ambition. Who, reasonably, could blame Van Persie for leaving?
'Revealed: Van Persie told Wenger which players to sign for Arsenal in explosive meeting':
No need. He'd probably buy you one
He's a class act.
If that would really be one of his biggest reasons, than he couldn't have chosen a "worse club" in that aspect
Ha. I know what you mean, but SAF's saving grace is that he has ongoing success to back-up his single-mindedness; at this time, Arsene doesn't.
Twelve games, nine goals, four assists and a catchy tune - Not bad eh?
I find that the goal.com is the football equivalent of TMZ.
If that Goal.com piece is true I don't really see anything wrong with it - he was in the process of making a major career choice and telling Wenger what he had to do if he wanted to keep him. I'd have done the same thing in his shoes, he doesn't owe Arsenal anything and he doesn't have to behave like a mindless automaton doing everything his manager tells him to without question.
I pray he scores against Arsenal. I will be showing the Youtube to my gooner friends for years to come.
I'm watching the game tomorrow at my mate's house (Arse fan), safe to say it's gonna be mental especialy if (or should I say when) he scores. I expect him to be very classy about it, but it won't stop my mate from calling him every name in the book
Van Persie and his agent Kees Vos, a long-time family friend, met face to face with Wenger and the Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis. The meeting took place at the manager’s home because he had just undergone eye surgery and was wearing an eye patch.
But if your players undermine your manager, what does that say about the club? I seem to recall Vieira pulled the same stunt a few years ago, but Arsenal's objectives were much different then (they targeted titles) so bringing in youth was accepted.
From what I gather, Van Persie wasn't satisfied with the quality of players brought in and Wenger's faith in duds like Ramsey supposedly. Nor failure to keep hold of their best players -- to think that Djourou and injury-prone Diaby are the longest serving players at the club is startling. Perhaps Wenger thought that by selling Van Persie, the team's shape and system would be more fluid and that they could score goals.
He's not undermining him, he's having a frank conversation with him. If he was shooting his mouth off to the media or to his team-mates then fair enough, but there's nothing wrong with telling the manager what you think of him privately.
The comments on that are pure gold.
Slating Van Persie on the strength of the article, then when it's pointed out that the article claims he had a change of heart when he heard prospective signings, it's, "Well, who knows they don't even talk about they source, it could be fake!"
They hate him for saying, what they've been saying for years.
A hat-trick would be a good reposte.
My bad! Fergie admits Man United nearly signed van Persie 11 years ago
“Robin was only 16 or 17 at the time,” said Ferguson. “But our assessment of young players is always based on the potential you see in them.
“We sent Jim Ryan over to Feyenoord and Robin was *actually sent off in the game. Jim said he was a fantastic talent, but felt that he was a little immature.
“At 16, we’re all immature, but we didn’t progress it, and then he went to Arsenal.
"I never thought we would get him, until he convinced us that he wouldn’t be signing a new contract at Arsenal.
“We just started working hard with Arsene Wenger and myself, I phoned him quite a few times, and we eventually came to an agreement.
“If Robin had more than one year left on his contract, we would never have got him.
“It was very amicable with Arsene. He made his case because, first of all, he wanted him to stay without *contradiction.
“There’s no doubt about that and he worked hard to keep him. The next stage, once he accepted that he had to let him go, was to make sure we paid him the money.
“And Arsene has always done a phenomenal job getting top dollar for players.”
I was wondering myself how RvP will celebrate when he scores.
If it's early in the game then you can imagine he'll be very classy in order to show respect to Arsenal - which is understandable as they are his former colleagues and fans.
However, imagine a late RvP winner after a tense, action packed match and goading from the Arsenal fans - I'd love to see him celebrate wildly!
It is disconcerting how Ferguson and Wenger have become best friends now. I'm starting to think that Ferguson kidnapped Arsene and replaced him with Kodos.
I think a common enemy in the structures of clubs like City and Chelsea have brought them together on common ground.
Definitely have developed a mutual respect.
They were once the enemy, but have grown quite fond of each other over the years. Im sure fergie respects him massively and they both understand the pressures on eachother. To last as long as they both have is remarkable.
I think it has a lot to do with Arsenal not competing with us anymore too. The respect must always have been there but the fact that Arsenal arent competing anymore means they can be more glowing about each other.
True, but I think the emergence of clubs like City and Chelsea would have softened the relationship a little bit regardless. If we had to lose the league this season, I'd rather Arsenal won it than anyone else. And I think Fergie would agree, because if Arsenal win you can definitely pull them back. But I remember a sense last season that if City won, and then kept on spending, there'd be no way for us to get back on top.
RVP to score five goals in the 1st half and kung-fu an Arsenal fan in the 2nd
alea iacta est
Yeah ofcourse, common enemies make them friends.
Its like having Van Nistelrooy back. He's absolutely deadly in the penalty area.
meh. Missed that chance when Rooney put him clean through. Average striker at best.
What a player.
But I must say he should've been off for that tackle on Sagna.
Could've and probably should've gotten more than one today but it's great to see him score against his former club.
Off for what??
Did he catch him with his studs?
These look worse sped up.
Wilshere should have been sent off in the first half too then.
Yellow was enough. That gif makes it look worse.
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