Rom & Tony Equal Club Record

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    Cheekiey Full Member

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    I wonder with time, how good of a partnership these 2 can form. Be interesting to see if we stick with 2 up top so this partnership can develop.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    Seems like a low number.
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    I really hope so but I don't think Jose will regularly play a formation with 2 up top seeing his favourite setup is a 4-2-3-1. With one having the brawn and the other the footwork, they could really get at defenders.
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    Cheekiey Full Member

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    I think they have more in all competitions, not sure how to find that out though
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    septic Full Member

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    Surely Ronaldo and Rooney combined for more? Yorke and Cole? Beckham and anyone else?
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    Hernandez - BFA The Way to Fly

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    Maybe it's too early in the day but I don't get this stat. Anyone able to break it down for me? 6 just seems too low for my view of combining as in "one or the other have assisted the other to score the goal".
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    Nickosaur Full Member

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    That seems so low. Surely Cole + Yorke got more at some point? I reckon these stats have only been recorded post Cole + Yorke.

    edit - @septic yeah you'd think Ron and Rooney too...
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    Ish Lights on for Luke

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    Yeah, without stat checking, the 6 sounds....low. But it's all in the league. Guess that makes a difference.
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    villain Hates Beyoncé

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    Is that 6 goals each assisted by the other? Or 6 goals in total assisted by the other?

    If it's the former I can believe it, if it's the latter, then surely that's not true?
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Whether high or low, the stat is a bit unsurprising. They do have good chemistry together.
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    Greck Full Member

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    Maybe it refers to a mutual assist relationship not just a one-way relationship. Can't imagine Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo wouldn't have broken this otherwise
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    Hawks2008 Full Member

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    They definitely have an understanding, I think they would thrive as a striker partnership.
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Yes it must mean six goals/six assists each, there's no way somebody hasn't assisted someone else in the league six times before.
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    Yagami Full Member

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    Martial has assisted Lukaku 3 times and vice versa totalling 6 goals.

    Our highest individual assists to goals partnership is Pogba assisting Martial with 4 - surprisingly equal to Sané assisting Sterling. The current highest in the league is Azpilicueta assisting Morata with 6. Runners up are De Bryune to Aguero with 5.

    Mata has also assisted Lukaku 3 times.
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    rotherham_red Full Member

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    Even during pre-season you could see the two had an understanding almost straight away when played together.

    Hope Jose sticks with this formation - Rom doesn't entirely suit the lone targetman role, Martial gets to play centrally and Pogba is in his best position. Sanchez is the odd one out in his position as the shuttling midfielder, but his workrate and endeavour would nevertheless make it work.
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    Trizy Full Member

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    I'd assume they've each assisted each other 6 times, given a total of 12 goals.

    EDIT: Just 3 each.

    Martial to Lukaku:
    Chelsea
    Stoke
    Palace

    Lukaku to Martial
    Burnley
    Watford
    Spurs
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    Greck Full Member

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    Martial, Lukaku, Pogba, Lingard each have one or two players from that hat of names they link up with telepathically. Surprised we get to matchdays and end up struggling to string 3 passes. Crappy fullback support can't help the matter
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    What was Beckham to Ruud? Cole to Yorke? Rooney to Ronaldo?
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    Mciahel Goodman Worst Werewolf Player of All Times Staff

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    Rooney must have. Or Scholes/Giggs/Beckham.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Would be interesting to know what the club record is in all competitions over a season.
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    westmeath Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    There's a lot more to Lukaku than "brawn", can we please get over this lazy characterisation of our main striker.
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    It's the sort of stat you never hear about...because it's a bit silly.. Each one of them has assisted the other with scoring 6 goals? Does that mean anything? Having 2 players score 6 goals and assist 6 goals each in a season gives us exactly the same outcome..

    Meh.
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Yes they're top candidates, as is Ronaldo who was probably assisted six times by Rooney in 07-08 let alone what was given vice versa.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    It's not like the Harry Kane trophy for goals in a calendar year. Or the Liverpool trophy for whatever criteria they figure out. It just indicates an understanding between two players. Which is good.
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    Greck Full Member

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    This. Synergistic relationships between attackers often form the foundation of great attacking systems. It's no trophy but refreshing to see good partnerships we can count on in the future
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    I agree, it's small news in terms of the numbers but it's good to see an indication that two of our main players seem to have a good understanding.
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    Gbenger New Member

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    How many minutes have they played together?

    I’m sure the stat would appear more impressive with this information.
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    Sunny Jim Full Member

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    Tevez and Rooney plus Berba and Rooney should too have more than 6.
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    ValenciasDrilledCrosses Full Member

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    Cole and Yorke definitely have more than six (as you can see in the video below) but I think this is because maube assist stats weren't officially counted in the Prem until quite a bit later
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    RuudTom83 Full Member

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    Being such a low number actually points out the deficiencies in the team, rather than celebrating the partnership.

    But still, I hope they get more chances to play together.

    One area the team massively lacks in, is partnerships and general understanding.

    Pogba and Zlatan has a slight connection last season, but no other parings exists in the current squad.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    The only record that's broken is how many times Lukaku and Martial have linked up for a goal.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    It's PL only, they've actually linked up for more goals over the course of the season. CSKA away being the first example that springs to mind
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    Lukaku (112 min/G+A), Martial (94 min/G+A), Lingard (101 min/G+A), and Rashford (112 min/G+A) have very good minutes/ goal + assist ratios. Pogba is at 153 min/G+A. Of United's primary attacking players, only Mata's (235 min/G+A) is worse than Sanchez's (191 min/G+A) minutes/goal + assist ratio at United.

    Playing a 4-2-2-2 scheme with either Martial or Rashford to the left of Lukaku at forward, Lingard to the right of Pogba at attacking midfield, and Young and Shaw at fullback should finish the season strong. If Sanchez wants to play, he can man up and show he's better than Lingard at the RAM spot.

    Playing good attacking football requires playing the most efficient and effective attacking players in a scheme that best utilizes their attacking skills, IMO. In an attacking sense, the second half vs Chelsea was about as good as we've seen this season vs quality opposition. I hope Mourinho builds on that success by utilizing that scheme and those players going forward.
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    Freak Born a freak always a freak.

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    That's a surprising stat. I'd swear Beckham assisted Ruud for his goals more than 6 times in a season.
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    Greck Full Member

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    How is it a low number if superior partnerships like Rooney-Ronaldo, RVN-Beckham etc didn't surpass it?
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    That does seem like a low number. I’m surprised 6 is a record. I was just looking for Aubemyang and Dembele last season as I’m sure they set some sort of record and I think it was over 14. Can’t find it anywhere but I’m sure who scored ran an article on it.

    However they’ve shown chemistry since pre season especially when they were played as a 2 upfront. They worked well together as both naturally drifted out wide opening up the centre for Pog and Miki.
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    But that is his main standout characteristic relative to all other strikers. There are many with better footwork, faster, better at holding the ball up, but you'd be hard pressed to find any top class strikers who are brawnier than Lukaku.
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    ValenciaRocks New Member

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    I think people are misunderstanding this stat.
    You say what about Beckham to Ruud? What about Ruud to Beckham.

    It just means that the combined total assists between two players (Lukaku and Martial in this instance) is the highest total in the EPL.

    However, im definitely surprised that the Yorke and cole partnership didn't sum up greater.

    Can someone find out the assists between Yorke and Cole in the 98/99 season?
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Going from this video below:

    Following are domestic:

    v Southampton (1)
    v Sheffield Wednesday (2)
    v West Ham (3)
    v West Ham (4)
    v Leicester City (5)
    v Leicester City (6)
    v Liverpool (7)
    v Nottingham Forest (8)
    v Chelsea (9)
    v Chelsea (10)
    v Newcastle (11)

    Going from this, the Liverpool one was in the FA Cup - same as both Chelsea ones, leaving:

    v Southampton (1)
    v Sheffield Wednesday (2)
    v West Ham (3)
    v West Ham (4)
    v Leicester City (5)
    v Leicester City (6)
    v Nottingham Forest (7)
    v Newcastle (8)

    Lukaku and Martial just two behind with plenty of the season left to go.

    Assist stats were only formally written down in the Prem around the early 2000s - I think.