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Hmm, all players praising Martial like Barca or Juve players do for Messi or Ronaldo. Ofc Martial is nowhere near that level and probably will never be, but seems like an acknowledgement that the team should be built around him.
All his teammates speak so highly of him.
Hope he fulfils his potential here.
He's in good form so that generally leads interviewers to focus attention on him when speaking to his teammates, they're hardly going to say 'nah he's shit' are they
Yeah! Welcome to the Martial FC, Sergio!
Well now we know who’s gonna be goalkeeping for Martial FC
This is what we live for. Martial FC
But but but, he doesn't track back and he's not good in air. That's what inside forwards or any player really should be judged upon
Similar to my comment in the player performance thread about the defensive work building more trust between him and his teammates as it shows his willingness to be involved in the action whether attacking or defending.
It's a shame that we need such interviews to show what martial is made of. His talent should not be in question.
He has played well when given opportunities. No player can be in form when he plays one game and is benched for the next 3-4.
I’d rather he just stood around like Messi and Ronaldo and score hattricks to be honest. This is exactly how we ruined Rooney.
Martial FC now has a goalkeeper
If he can get some consistency in his game, if he wants to be great and continues to work hard he can fulfil his potential and be a world class player...
At the moment he can make the simple sideways pass look ridiculously hard and the next minute make a play look ridiculously easy AF!
If/when it clicks he could be awesome
Jeez something went wrong there. A lot of the Caf have been "fuful'ing his ootenpote" lately, long we hope it continues and drives us on.
I don't think it is "defensive work" in the general sense of the word but more of a willingness to interact, call for and thrive on and off the ball when we have it. He's expanding his game beyond the up-left just fang it out to him and it will make him a much better player if he can get comfortable existing in the offence in all aspects of playing on the left for us.
Chuffed for Martial, shows how much confidence goals can give you.
What are you on about? 'ruined'
It's as if people forgot what a 19-year old Martial did for United in 15/16. Kid's an outstanding talent.
We ruined Rooney by asking him to run?
Hopefully this hype from the club is the precursor to an announcement that he's signed a new contract. Certainly seems all is well behind the scenes.
Although I don't agree, think what @Mainoldo is trying to say is we shouldn't try to turn him into an all action man like we did with Rooney.
Rooney was always like that,we didn't turn him into anything.
On Martial, it would be good if he improves his defensive work but I don't want us to overburden him with it.
He's a Robben, not a Willian.
I would love it if he were allowed to stay as high as possible. Our best chance of creating chances are when he's exposed on v one against defenders. He won't get that, when he's busy tracking runners.
Unfortunately, I don't think we have the midfield to support him doing that. The drawback of having a DM with no legs.
Talent is obvious with Martial.
It's laughable people on here shitting on him. He's one of only maybe 3 players who'd go to a better side than us if they left us (Pogba, Martial, De Gea).
Robben wouldnt be my example but would think more like Griezmann.
Yes, you primarily stay up field and hopfeully pin back the opposition full back, but also recognize and are willing to track back when your defence, particularly your full back, is under pressure.
It simply makes him a more complete and better player
By making him burn out his energy unnecessarily. Messi, Ronaldo etc conserve their energy they know when to run, walk, jog etc.
Martial is a great talent, but he's just that at the moment.
I do worry a bit that we'll all build him up, then he'll inevitably have a few bad games and he'll be broken down again.
I'm glad he's working harder though, not just in his defending but in his attacking.
There's a noticeable difference from as early as the beggining of the season in terms of his willingness to make runs and be a bit more proactive.
Like I say though I just hope we can be patient when he's eventually out of form.
Abit OTT but he would have had a better longer career if he wasn’t chasing shadows every game. Fergie said so himself, I get it that was just him. I just don’t see the benefit in having Martial run up and down the touchline like a madman when we actually only care about one thing. Put the ball in the back of he net and create chances for your team.
Watching Messi live Barcelona pretty much sacrifice him as a defensive part of the team. It hasn’t hindered them at all. Fergie gave Ronaldo freedom yes he had to earn it but he never dropped him because he didn’t track back.
We or the manager?
What is this Martial FC of which you speak?
Us and the press.
I think any manager will give a player like Martial time given how talented he is.
A lot of people would disagree but I don't think giving a player time equates to always playing them Iregardless of form.
That's something I think pundits often get wrong with Rashford too, they'd both potentially have a Michael Owen style career in which they're burned out by their mid twenties.
Very good words from Romero, now only if Martial would sign a new contract...
I'd have no issues if Martial scored hat-tricks for us. When was the last time any player scored a hat-trick for us?
And regarding Rooney - we did not ruin him. He has a very long playing career, which most players would only dream of. He started early and finished early.
Slap that tag "Martial FC" on me mods!
Ibra in his first season I believe.
You are right and wrong here. You're right in that Rooney would burn himself out with him lung bursting runs tracking back an opposition player with the ball, but imo this was down to his aggression as a young player and he had bags of energy.
Where you're wrong is that this wasn't an instruction from SAF and the coaching team, actually the opposite. Rooney used to do this on his own accord and a couple of years later, SAF tried channelling this aggression and energy Rooney would use tracking back, by using it going forward, he said so himself.
Romero is just giving a helping hand to Martial for a £200k per week salary. Ed better get his signature soon!
Has there ever been any truly great attacker, that is great at tracking his man?
So many reactionary clowns wanted him to be sold after he dared to leave the shitshow that was the preseason tour to visit his partner during the birth of his son. Those same 'fans' are probably singing his praises now
Hey, either way works for me ain't fussy.
Yeah clearly Rooney achieved nowt whilst at Manchester United.
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