Rooney - Wants to stay next season

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  1. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:41

    Marcus Couldn't buy a clue

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    Jose must push Rooney in training during pre-season. If Rooney puts in the effort and is able to bring his fitness up to Jose's standards then fine. If not, then he gets the BFS treatment. If Rooney injures himself in the process because he is so far gone then so be it. He has a contract and the club has to honour it.
  2. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:45

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    There's no need for that! :nono: Whatever happens, United have to pay him his last year. He's done nothing to rock the boat and has not caused Mourinho any bother at all...he's just not good enough any more. He may be useful as a bit part player for another year whilst the rebuilding is taking shape. I don't understand why people are being so hard on the guy. What with the Ronaldo hate as well, it really is fecked up!
  3. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:46

    Enigma_87 You know who

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    That ship has sailed mate. Let him pick up his cheque and retire gracefully.
  4. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:47

    RedPed Full Member

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    Let's be honest, how many United players were genuinely worthy of their wage last season??
  5. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:51

    ti vu Full Member

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    Not many, but there are quite few. Those ain't worthy would eventually moved on. That's the point, isn't it?

    Edit: Oh, and when I am talking about "worthy", there is a sense that players show a growth rate that is promising enough for the club not to cut the loss at the moment. Rooney is now on his last year, it's now or nothing with proof piled against him not being able to turn the corner. Recoup money how little it is now plus saving the wage, is better than gambling on him for one more year & lose more.
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  6. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:55

    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Not their fault tho is it? If the club overvalued them when signing them up on huge wages, or gave them huge contract upgrades it's the club fault. Those players might not want to be moved on, especially on hefty contracts.
  7. Jun 20, 2017 at 00:58

    ti vu Full Member

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    I don't argue against that, especially for Rooney's sake here as it's clear Moyes' mismanagement work here. Rooney is entitled for getting the wage on the signed contract.

    Read my edit part on the last post. I try to distunguish between players with room to turn a corner vs Rooney's situation.
  8. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:00

    Vashu Full Member

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    What hate? He's really up to no good nowadays and I wouldn't like to see Rooney take one bench spot for every single game/most games/half of the games next season. That would be a tactical dumb class. He's the one playing hardball at the moment so it's only wise to take notice of it and act accordingly.
  9. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:00

    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    The bad news just keeps coming this week. Glad I support Pakistan in cricket. Mind you I can relate on that front. Our talismanic Shahid Afridi made a right mess of retirement too.
  11. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:03

    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Aye, another in the long list of feck ups in about 7 months at the club. Especially since Fergie was paving his way out of the club at the time.
  12. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:06

    RedPed Full Member

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    Up to no good based on what?? How do you know he's playing hardball?? Has the club asked him to leave or received any offers for him? And we have a few other bench warmers, Carrick, Fellaini, Smalling etc., that are also taking up valuable space and should be moved on.
  13. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:10

    Enigma_87 You know who

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    He doesn't have any options tho has he? He can't go to China - the lad is dumb as a brush, I'm not sure he'll cope with the American-English / British-English language barrier(if an offer comes from the States) let alone learning a new language.

    Apart from those paydays, he can go to Qatar but he risks of receiving 3rd degrees burns(considering his pale complexion) there and I pretty much doubt he'll enjoy Russia either.

    No top club will give him a starting spot and I don't see him spending couple of seasons at West Brom or Torino either. Those who might give him a run in couldn't afford to pay him and having spend all his sane years in England and particularly at one club, reaching the very heights of the game, psychologically makes it even more unlikely for him to want a new challenge especially since he also knows his legs are gone.
  14. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:15

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    If you say so.
  15. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:25

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    I see quite a lot of differences to be honest. Rooney has been poor for at least 3 seasons. He is out of the team. We are looking to be stronger so he'll be even further away from the starting eleven. I don't blame him, but I'd definitely prefer to see him find another club. If he still has footballing ambitions then he has to go. This thing with doing all he can to get in proper condition, like someone mentioned, begs the question of why he hasn't done so consistently. With Bastian, it was all injuries. He didn't become a bad player. When he signed the Caf was over the moon btw.
  16. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:29

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    Only thing worse than spending 170 million(or whatever the figure is) on a 32 yr old, is keeping Rooney for another season. He has nothing more to offer at an elite level. Time for him to go.
  17. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:36

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    "I'm staying".
  18. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:38

    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    He looks like he's about to cry
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    I don't necessarily disagree regarding that trio, yet Rooney in his last season's form sticks out in this company like a sore thumb. His gradual decline is taking place since 2012 and our captain's most recent performances were his worst ever.

    It's a poker game. Mourinho as gently as possible has been showing Rooney the door arguably since he came to Manchester. Did those many contract offers the Wayne had on the table have suddenly evaporated? Everything was pointing towards his exit and now we get the leaked out information about Rooney staying put for one more year. We should grant him his wish and let him leave by mutually agreeing to terminate his contract with big, but not full compensation of course. Don't see anything overly hard in it. Or maybe would you like us for a change to marginalize next season appearances of Martial and Rashford in favor of our captain marvel, which would probably mean end of the road for 'em with United?
  20. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:47

    arthurka Full Member

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    I guess he doesn't want a fighting chance to take England once more to a tournament..
  21. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:51

    Vashu Full Member

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    Yeah it's hard to imagine him choosing many of these options. However it could go like this: we pay most that we owe to Wayne so he can go to Everton for free and get there a 100k+ weekly wage. Everyone's as a result happy and gets what they want.
  22. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:56

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    Not to have a go or anything but I remember quite clearly at time (especially on here) that a lot of people were kinda happy that we had signed him up and beat off Chelsea. He was what 27/28 at the time and having and alright season and the general feeling was by losing him we would have to spend £50 to £60 mil on another player who might not be as good.

    I can't stand Moyes for a lot of things but I can understand why he did it, even if it did all go down hill very quickly. Personally I thought under Moyes and in LVG's first season he was pretty good. Maybe not the Rooney of old but the not as bad as people would have you think.
  23. Jun 20, 2017 at 01:58

    MyOnlySolskjaer Half Member

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    His arms look tiny.
  24. Jun 20, 2017 at 02:23

    Nuts Full Member

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    No thanks, show him the door.
  25. Jun 20, 2017 at 02:27

    Dumat12 obviously doesn't know moses

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    This transfer window ain't going too well for us it seems. We're getting from all sides.
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    Yeah but I meant bfs wages can be counted in instead of Rooneys if the tw@t stays.
  28. Jun 20, 2017 at 03:07

    spwd likes: servals, breasts, rylan clark and zooey

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    From that pic you chose arms:lol:
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    Sky1981 Fending off the urge

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    I dislike him not because of the contract. But for not being a professional and taking his sweet wages, captaincy, and career for granted all those years.

    If he god forbid got an ilness like fletcher nobody would say a bad words, but his decline is his own wrong doing, thinking he could take it easy as midfielder, creating media narative that harms the club, etc.

    He deserve his karma
  30. Jun 20, 2017 at 05:40

    johnamiri New Member

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    If he refuses to leave you will have to grit your teeth and pay him his 300k a week. Even if he goes there will be a huge payoff for him. Either way it won't be cheap but you had a lot of good years out of him
  31. Jun 20, 2017 at 06:17

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    Whether he stays or goes, Southgate would be a fool to bring him back into the fold.

    That ship has sailed.
  32. Jun 20, 2017 at 06:24

    SoCross Full Member

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    Incredible though how far he's fallen. Recently re-watched extended highlights of our game vs Milan when Beckham returned and Rooney was a beast. Pace, strength, movement..incredible player.
  33. Jun 20, 2017 at 07:15

    hellohello Full Member

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    I've asked this question before, but where is it reported that he only has one year left on his contract? On Uniteds own pages it said a contract to 2019 and no mention of a year being optional.

    United's website
    Guardian

    If he only has a year left as people say, where is that reported? What sources?
  34. Jun 20, 2017 at 07:24

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    Dig up stupid!
    If he wants to stay he is at least doing the right thing by acknowledging he needs to work harder and longer than everyone else to get up to speed, I for one am glad to see this.

    There's no reason a player of his ability can't adapt his game and play a crucial role as 3rd or 4th choice forward. There's lots of games in the domestic cups and cl groups where lesser sides may be played and if he applies himself he could be a good player for those games

    It's all about Wayne accepting his new reduced role in the squad and applying himself accordingly. It's also a good opportunity as captain for him to set a great example by working his absolute bollocks off despite not playing the big games. Such an approach could also land him a wc squad place

    I'm not totally convinced it will work out but I hope it does for him, he's gotta really work for it though
  35. Jun 20, 2017 at 07:28

    Angelinho Full Member

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    It must have been obvious to him for most of last season that he was effectively finished at the club. To have nothing lined up speaks volumes. His options seem unlikely to grow much over the next 12 months, so maybe he might be looking to retire at that point.
  36. Jun 20, 2017 at 07:37

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    I'm astounded reading this thread. Dont get me wrong I'm the first to say he's been way off the mark last two years but seriously....

    Its Wayne Rooney! Our all time leading goalscorer. Give the man a little respect, half the players this caf fawns over haven't achieved a tenth of what he has. The man was and still is in many ways a superstar and him staying for another season will only help us as he is still looked up to by many in this game. Caf pundits excluded
  37. Jun 20, 2017 at 07:57

    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Half the players the caf fawns over haven't threatened to leave and join City unless we give them more money. Feck Wayne Rooney.
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    Good on him,looks like he is trying and prepared to knuckle down.
  39. Jun 20, 2017 at 08:00

    OohAahMartial Full Member

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    For all the talk about Moyes being responsible, right now Jose needs to take the next step and tell Wayne he will struggle to even make the squad, and not say '100% I want him here next ssason'.
  40. Jun 20, 2017 at 08:16

    Adisa Full Member

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    People still thinking he'll come good. :lol:
    You're all clutching.
    He's likely getting himself in shape for a transfer it it happens.
    He knows he's not getting back in the team.