Roy Keane KO'D Heinze

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    Surprised this wasnt mentioned and if this was actually true?

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/12/forme...y-keane-once-knocked-him-unconscious-6703388/

    Roy Keane is famous for his short temper and a former Manchester United team-mate has revealed precisely why he commands such a notorious reputation.
    Former Old Trafford favourite Gabriel Heinze has told how he was once knocked out by the Manchester United captain after daring to cross him.

    After a defeat the Argentinean told Keane to ‘f*** off’. It was a terrible mistake.
    ‘We lost a game and I went in the dressing room first and Roy Keane was second. I liked to go first after the game; I didn’t want to speak to anyone as we lost,’ said the former defender.
    ‘I didn’t understand English, just the bad words. I heard my name and “f*** off” by Roy Keane, the best player.
    ‘I knew that was bad so I stood up to him, this idol of Manchester, this great guy who everyone loved, and replied: “F*** off, you”. I don’t remember what happened next.’


    During the interview with Argentinian television he was asked if that was because he was knocked out, to which he replied: ‘Yes. Yes.’

    Heinze spent three years at Manchester United during which he won the Premier League title. However he grew frustrated at a lack of playing time and after flirting with a move to Liverpool eventually left for Real Madrid.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    He boxed amateur as a kid. Always thought he should have been a boxer. Very suited to that sport.
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    Good. Heinze the scouse wannabe.
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    Legendary was Keane. Absolutely ruled the dressing room with an iron fist
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...trates-the-mindset-of-a-warrior-35711426.html

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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    Probably knew Heinze would push for a Liverpool before the rest of us.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    I wonder if Keano was such a bully among the likes of Cantona, Brucey, Ince and Hughes
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    Rado_N Yaaas Broncos!

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    Just makes Keane sound like a prick to be honest.
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    El Zoido Full Member

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    Probably gave it a go. He was the one scrapping with Schmeichel that one time at a hotel wasn't he? When Fergie came and gave them a bollocking for waking Sir Bobby up.
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    Good Heinze was a wa....
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    almost singlehandedly won us matches at times.

    We will never see a better midfield player.
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    He was/is a prick. But some of the qualities that made/makes him that also made him one of the best captains and midfielders of United's history.
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    Cantona was captain at the time. He made a poor pass. Keane gave him a earful.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Schmeichel was a coward according to Parker.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    But would he actually lift his hands on him?

    Seriously guys, this attitude looks nice on some Marvel movie (Logan?) but it really is a poor way of managing adults. There were many captains around who did a great job without the need to hammer people like some 12 year old bully.
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    Even Keano didn't like him
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    Red Dreams Full Member

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    why would he need to?

    Heinze was a prick and deserved what he got.
    Keane was all United as was Cantona.
    They respected each other.
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    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/keane-wrath-revisited-by-blomqvist-1-1411669

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    Scenes if it had happened today :lol:
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    I think the trophy cabinet during Keane's reign say a lot about his effectiveness. Don't doubt he is hugely flawed but he drove the team on to bigger and better things. The player who lasted only speak in the highest of regard about Keane, those that left might have a dig but never did better for doing so.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    There's no doubt that he was a magnificent midfielder and that goes without saying irrespective of attitude. But knocking team mates around is not what good captains would do. You would never see the likes of Zanetti, Maldini or Baresi doing that. Also note that he never goes for the tough people (ie the Vinnie Joneses, the Paul Inces or the RVNs). He either scare the shit out of the Cleverley/the Nevilles or go toe to toe against Schmiechel (Parker called him a coward). So seriously, I don't buy this 'tough guy' mentality.
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    Tbf, he did go after Vieira.
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    Pallister and Keane never spoke to each other again after a falling out. Pallister took a swing at him and broke his watch in a chinese takeaway when Keane was being a drunk nob, and from then on Pallister wanted nothing to do with him. Make no mistake, he was a serial winner, but he was a dickhead off the pitch as well as on it during those days. I'm all for Keane being a warrior on the pitch, but there is no need to be a cnut to a senior player off the field for no reason.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    RVN was a prick too but he never really lift 1 finger against him. Same with Ince.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Vieira is a tough player not a tough man
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    what a captain
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    :D
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    I disagree. We won the lot because we had top quality players who were eager to win. You only have to hear an interview of the class of 92 or any player who played around that era to notice that. They seem to be snapping for an other chance of going out on the pitch and win. I guess Keane's bullying had it uses else SAF wouldn't have closed an eye on it. However that small fire would later on turn into a blaze and risk burning the whole thing down. Bullies tend to be bad leaders.
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    Are you really saying that Heinze and Schmikes were not tough players whereas RVN was!?
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    This devilish is a right fanny.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Some can be one and not the other. Take the likes of Phil or Butt. On the pitch they will fight for every inch of pitch but out of it they are big softies. Scholes is also like that. He's timid out of the pitch but on his pitch his 'inability to tackle' tend to put him into trouble.
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    Agreed. Keane was a great player but seems an absolute bellend as a human being.

    All the keyboard warriors saying it's great that a bloke punches a colleague who stands up to him need to have a word with himself.
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    I reckon if push had come to shove Vieira would of battered Keane.

    Keane was a bully.
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    This :lol: - no pun intended
    This
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    Bwuk Full Member

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    Exactly. I'd imagine half of them would be straight down to their HR department if that happened to them at their work.
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    Schmeichel is labelled by Parker as a coward. Heinze on the other hand is mercenary (SAF words not mine). Players who are in football only for the money would never risk it by pissing off a psycho

    Ruud was a 6ft3 taekwando black belt
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    What about SAF's hairdryer treament or kicking a boot that hit beckham in the eye.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Parker talks pure crap all the time.
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    I'm not saying Keane was not a bully, but I doubt Vieira would have had him. Keane was a former boxer and raised in Cork.. also a crazy bastard!
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    devilish Phil Neville's #1 fan

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    SAF is a manager. Its only fair to shout at his own people. The latter was a geniune mistake which SAF apologised afterwards. SAF kicked a boot and it ended up on Beckham's eye.

    I've read SAF autobiography a couple of times and I can't help feeling that the man feel he mismanaged Keane. An older SAF would certainly not allowed Keane to act the way he did.