Rui Faria

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    Does anyone know anything specific about this guy, other than that he is Mourinho's shadow? What does he do? I mean, is he a people person, good at communicating Mourinho's strategy to players? Is he a tactician? Or does Mourinho just like having him around because he makes a really good brew?

    In all seriousness, I was just reading Mourinho's assessment thread and someone mentioned getting a new attacking coach in. I thought that sounded like a good idea, I was about to comment that I couldnt see it though as Mourinho is too much of a control freak. I wonder whether Faria's USP is that he is able to advise Mourinho without threatening / undermining his authority. I wonder if a new attacking coach would be able to do that - sharpen up our attack, without taking attention away from The Special One.

    SAF was a control freak, to be fair, but he was good at recognising what he wasnt brilliant at, and generally picked good assistants. There has been many an interesting debate on here over the years about what kind of contribution the likes of Carlos Queiroz, Steve McClaren and Mike Phelan made, and whether it was a coincidence when we had a particularly barren spell at the same time he decided not to appoint an assistant.

    I do wonder whether a new assistant could provide fresh ideas and impetus to Mourinho and help him to evolve as a football manager. I wonder whether such a person exists, who could bring those kinds of ideas, and also work with someone like Mourinho, being happy to live in his shadow. On the other hand, is he more like Peter Taylor to Mourinho's Clough? Would Mourinho's magic disappear completely without his ever-present right hand man?

    I also wonder whether Rui Faria could or would ever strike out on his own. Mourinho once said (I think the question may actually have been about Giggs but I cant remember) that he thought Faria would make an excellent manager if he ever went out on his own. But he seems to be happy to operate out of the limelight, I have no idea, as I said, what exactly he brings to the table, or what kind of manager he might be. Maybe a Chelsea fan would know more?
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    Some Portuguese posters on here said that he would be an extremely successful manager if he decided to go that way.
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    From what I've read about him, he's far from some hand off tea maker agreeing with everything Mourinho says.

    Most testimonials of him are that he's extremely infleuntial in everything Mourinho does and has done.
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    I don't think a man as successful as Mourinho would stick with someone for so long if he wasn't good in something. I am more interested what will Carrick bring to the team next season as a coach. Can he add that attacking structure we seem to lack? I hope so.
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    https://thesefootballtimes.co/2017/...t-and-jose-mourinhos-indispensable-assistant/
    JOSÉ MOURINHO HASNT HAD THE BEST RELATIONSHIP with the fine city of Barcelona after his exploits against them while he was the manager of Inter and Real Madrid. A former employee and resident of the city, he banished memories of his past using the resources of their rivals, and is almost an eternally hated figure in the region.

    But it mustn’t be denied that he picked up a few valuable stratagems for himself including the methods of the great Sir Bobby Robson and Louis van Gaal, an entry into the grand footballing world, and importantly, a friend, henchman and everlasting loyalist: Rui Faria.

    Born in the alluring northern-Portuguese city of Barcelos, Rui Faria, like Mourinho, has no experience of playing football professionally. Instead, he plied his trade as a physical education teacher, and that is what gave him his invaluable knowledge about the ever-complicated field of sport.

    His career to the top started with a few stumbles, starting with his meeting with Mourinho in Barcelona, where the two would come across each other at a seminar. Mourinho at the time was working under Van Gaal, and after talking to Faria for some time, it became clear to him that he was the right man to be by his side as he looked to break into management himself.

    The pair kept in touch and, when Mourinho finally got his first job as head coach at União de Leiria in 2001, he appointed Faria as his fitness manager and analyst. It was a task that was perfectly compatible with Faria’s skillset, and had all the makings of a successful relationship. However, problems ensued and a standoff between Mourinho and his chairman made Faria redundant almost as soon as he had been hired, and that has been the theme of their working relationship.

    The two have been inseparable for nearly two decades and are the core behind their successful teams. Mourinho’s inner workings have always been a subject of public questioning and conspiracy theories, but if there’s anyone who knows it well, it is Rui Faria. Mourinho has even admitted on several occasions that no-one can replicate his style, his methodology and his way of work apart from Faria. The two have fiery temperaments, cold, calculated natures and a similar outlook on the game. It has been the blueprint for triumph across four different countries.

    When speaking about who he was bringing to his backroom staff upon his return to Chelsea in 2015, he had simple yet informative words about Faria’s importance to his career: “Rui as we know is my methodology right arm, the guy that understands best my information and the way I work.”
    And later in 2015, when Mourinho was discussing about who he sees being his natural successor, he was full of praise for Faria once again: “But if one day I have to choose my successor, if you want to use that, the one that I really feel thinks like me, is adapted to my way of lead, he’s adapted to my way of coaching, he’s the one with more similarities with me even in some traces of personality, is my assistant, Rui Faria.”

    The pair have been quintessential to each other’s achievements. Following the impasse at União, Faria would follow Mourinho to one of Portugal’s bigwigs in the form of Porto, and that would be the groundwork for the path they were about to set out on. Coming in during a period of transition for the Portuguese club, the two would change training methods in the country, and would share details of the club’s training exercises during their pre-season camps ahead of the 2002/03 season.

    Faria’s vast knowledge with physical education came to use here, for the team’s tactical philosophies were entirely refreshed. Mourinho applied a high-pressure line that relied heavily upon defending from the attacking zones, and Faria’s experience with fitness coaching was put to the test here. In a revolutionary change of strategy, Porto would dominate the domestic scene, while also going on to win the UEFA Cup, beating Celtic in the final.

    On the face of it, it looks as though it was mainly Mourinho’s tactical nous and willingness to adapt to new conditions that carved Porto’s success. But Faria had a crucial role to play as well. The detailed training reports published on the club’s website in pre-season included details about their exercise philosophies and how each method was important to how the team plays. Carefully organised by Mourinho’s coaching staff, led by Faria’s vast data, it was a collective effort that gave the team the recognition they deserved.

    The next season, it was the same success that followed, albeit on a grander scale. The UEFA Cup win was followed by an unexpected triumph in the Champions League, as Porto would dominate Monaco in the final to complete a historic treble of the league, cup and European title. In what was a major coup for Mourinho, he would see his stock drastically rise and earn a move to England, where Chelsea would pay large sums for his services.

    Mourinho’s move to England also saw the rest of his backroom staff arrive with him, including Rui Faria, who was now given a more integral role amongst the team. And with the repertoire to back up his words, his time in England would see the commencement of his dark arts on and off the pitch, with Faria being the understudy to his boss’s antics. Arriving with the same swagger that made them so prominent in Portugal, the challenge in England was different, although it was met with the same killer instinct.

    The first signs of Faria’s insanity in relation to Mourinho’s orders occurred in the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Having controversially made it past Barcelona in the previous round, Mourinho was handed a stadium ban for the last-eight tie against Bayern Munich. It was here that his coordination with his coaching staff was used to full effect, as Faria was seen wearing a woolly hat and constantly scratching his ear to raise allegations that he had an earpiece underneath and was discreetly taking instructions from his boss.
    There were allegations that Mourinho also illicitly entered the dressing room through a cart used to transport the club’s kits. In addition to that, there was also belief that the club’s goalkeeping coach, Silvino Louro, was given instructions on paper from Mourinho, as Louro was frequently seen going towards the team’s dressing room during the match. The bizarre state of events were obviously denied by Chelsea and their manager, but it shows the risk they were taking to test the wrath of UEFA.

    It was business as usual for José Mourinho and Rui Faria at Chelsea. Trophies were a constant for the pair – two Premier League titles, two League Cups and one FA Cup and Community Shield each. A successful stint was ended, once again, by a rift between Mourinho and the volatile Roman Abrahmovich, which meant that the coaching team was off in late 2007 and into a short sabbatical, before Inter Milan would call for their services.

    In addition to being Mourinho’s fitness expert and companion on the bench, Faria was also Mourinho’s peace-maker. Being the person with the most access to his boss’s plans as well as the squad’s happenings, Faria has often been involved in making ends meet between the team and manager, although that hasn’t always worked out as planned. Throughout his career, he’s been asked to rectify issues, and that was most visible in Mourinho’s ill-fated tenure in the Spanish capital with Real Madrid.

    In the third and final season of their stay, the feud between Mourinho and the senior members of the Real Madrid squad over the former’s treatment of club captain, Iker Casillas, grew and that led to resents from the likes of Sergio Ramos, Pepe and, more publicly, Cristiano Ronaldo. It was Faria who acted as the mediator between the team and manager, and despite failing to patch things up entirely, he prohibited a highly volatile situation from getting out of hand. The footballer considered Faria to be a friend, and it was this mutual respect that calmed a hostile situation.

    There’s a reason Mourinho has been so unwilling of letting Rui Faria go. Every member of Mourinho’s backroom since he joined Porto in 2002 has left him to go into managerial ventures of their own or into oblivion, but not Faria. André Villas-Boas and Brendan Rodgers, who were with him at Chelsea, have had the helm of Europe’s higher order, while the likes of Steve Clarke and Aítor Karanka have tried to cut it in the Premier League, but Faria is different. He’s a loyalist to Mourinho, and having stayed with him for 16 years, he has learned his ways, including the dark arts.

    Assistant managers attract less attention than the men leading the team, and that is why Mourinho has honed Faria into learning his cynical off-pitch antics. Take the game against Sunderland at Stamford Bridge in 2014, during Mourinho’s second stint as Chelsea manager. After gifting a penalty to the Black Cats, Faria furiously got off his bench and had an aggressive altercation with fourth official Mike Dean on the touchline. He was subsequently handed a six-game stadium ban and a fine of £30,000 for his frolics – a situation his mentor was has been quite familiar with.

    Rewind four years from that, and the war of words Faria is willing to get involved in with Mourinho’s rivals is also clear. In this case, it was newly-appointed Inter boss Rafael Benítez feeling the outburst of Faria, after he provided a scathing assessment about the injury problems amongst his former employers’ squad in an interview with Gazetta dello Sport: “Players are not oranges that are squeezed dry. Last season brought titles and self-belief. Perhaps there’s only one element that is bled dry at Inter … that is who is responsible for the performance of the team. Inter have fantastic players and a first-class medical department. The players, medical staff and Italian football in general are the same as last year. Only one thing has changed.”

    In addition to that, Faria has also learned and expressed Mourinho’s blistering personality during rare press conferences. Mourinho has always had a local manager to handle to media. It was Clarke at Chelsea, Giuseppe Bergomi at Inter Milan and Karanka at Real Madrid who showed up when Mourinho was unwilling to, but when Faria turns up, there isn’t a shortage of entertainment.

    This fiery attitude was on display at Manchester United, a place known for explosive press conferences. After Mourinho was sent off in a home game against Burnley, Faria took the media responsibilities and, in Mourinho-esque fashion, he had a typically sarcastic response to referee Mark Clattenburg’s performance: “I just want to say fantastic work from the referee, I will not say more than this.”

    Over the years, Rui Faria’s role under Mourinho has changed. Currently at Manchester United, Mourinho has left training sessions to be delegated by Faria, as the former takes a seat in his office, organising details and planning for the future. He’s also been given the responsibility of handling the players that spend time away from the club, as expressed by Andreas Pereira, who admitted that he frequently spoke with Rui Faria about his prospects while away on loan at LaLiga side Granada.

    If Mourinho is the executive chef of his kitchen, Faria’s role in the staff has constantly changed. From being the sous chef and assisting his head while at Porto, Chelsea and Inter, three clubs where Mourinho was given majority of the control, he has slowly and unconventionally evolved into the maître d, handling matters of his team and taking the responsibilities of maintaining order amongst the side, as seen at Real and Manchester United, two clubs that come with history, values, expectations and integrity that Mourinho needed to adhere to.

    Faria is Mourinho’s lynchpin, and maybe even a yardstick to measure his success. It’s rare that assistant managers stick with their bosses for so long, and losing staff is a scenario Mourinho is well accustomed to, but it must be asked: would Mourinho be as comfortable in his work without his most trusted disciple and closest friend? The answer to that is unknown, and it looks likely that it will continue to be for the foreseeable future, for Faria’s loyalty to Mourinho seems unbreakable no matter what the situation.

    The two share similar views on the game, and each one’s ideology complements the other’s. It’s Faria’s tenacity and work ethic that has made him such a prominent figure in dugouts. He has all the makings of someone who can go on and lead a club himself, but with Mourinho, he forms special teams, and perhaps that history of success won’t separate the two. Wherever they have been, they have won, and that formula looks set to last the test of time

    http://www.espn.in/football/club/ma...s-loyal-assistant-fitness-guru-and-attack-dog

    Jose Mourinho has finally begun work as the new Manchester United manager and he has brought several of his most trusted followers with him. Chief among them is Rui Faria, the fitness coach and assistant renowned for his unshakeable loyalty and fiery temper.

    ESPN FC takes a closer look at the other man who will soon be prowling the Old Trafford dugout this season.

    Who is he?

    Faria is Mourinho's longest-serving assistant and most trusted advisor -- or as Mourinho himself once described him: "my methodology right arm." It was no surprise to see the two men walking side-by-side in London as reports of an imminent agreement with Manchester United intensified; they have been close on and off the training pitch for the last 15 years, since Mourinho appointed Faria as his fitness coach and video analyst in his first managerial role at Uniao de Leiria in 2001.

    Where is he from?

    Born in the modest town of Barcelos in northern Portugal, Faria never played football at any significant level (like Mourinho) and instead made his living as a physical education teacher. The two men met when Faria attended a coaching seminar at Barcelona's Camp Nou, where Mourinho was then employed as Louis van Gaal's assistant manager.

    Mourinho found that he and Faria shared a similar outlook on coaching and took the younger man with him to Leiria, though their first adventure might have ended before it began. Faria was convinced he would be sacked only a fortnight into the job when Mourinho got involved in an ugly standoff with the club's chairman, who had insisted on coming to watch a training session. In the end, Mourinho got his way and peace reigned.

    What does he control?

    Faria's main remit is still as a fitness coach, tasked with devising ways to maintain the peak condition of players and minimise the risk of injuries. But over time his role has broadened as Mourinho's trust in him has grown, and in recent years he has also regularly advised his manager on tactical and strategic matters both on and off the pitch.

    In his controversial book "The Special One: The Dark Side of Jose Mourinho," Spanish journalist Diego Torres claims that Faria was chosen to act as the intermediary between Mourinho and Cristiano Ronaldo at Real Madrid, due to the fact that the superstar regarded him as a trusted counsellor and friend.

    Faria does not, however, keep a public profile. Over the course of Mourinho's career it has always been the other "local" assistant coach -- Steve Clarke and Steve Holland at Chelsea; Giuseppe Bergomi at Inter; Aitor Karanka at Real Madrid -- who attends news conferences whenever the manager is unavailable or unwilling. Faria does his work exclusively behind the curtain.

    This is unlikely to change at Old Trafford, though Ryan Giggs' departure leaves few obvious candidates to take on any media responsibilities that Mourinho delegates.

    What is his style?

    Asked about his many coaching disciples during the BT Sport documentary "Jose Mourinho -- Portrait of a Champion" last summer, Mourinho singled out Faria as "the one with more similarities with me, even in some traces of personality."

    These similarities constitute the good and the bad. Like Mourinho, Faria is smart and a keen learner, priding himself on being a meticulous planner with a formidable work ethic. But his spiky personality also reflects some of the less admirable character traits of his boss.

    In the dugout on matchdays, Faria regularly acts as Mourinho's attack dog, haranguing referees and fourth officials on his manager's behalf. During the 2011-12 season that saw Real Madrid wrestle the title from Barcelona, he was sent off four times in as many months for protesting decisions. The most memorable Chelsea flashpoint came in April 2014 during the closing stages of a 2-1 defeat to Sunderland -- the loss ended Mourinho's long unbeaten home run in league matches and all but ended his team's Premier League title challenge.

    Faria worked himself into a rage at the awarding of a Sunderland penalty by referee Mike Dean and had to be restrained by Mourinho before being shepherded down the Stamford Bridge tunnel by other Chelsea staff. He received a six-match stadium ban from the Football Association, reduced to four on appeal.

    If Sir Bobby Charlton and other more traditionally-minded members of the United hierarchy once harboured concerns about Mourinho's abrasive public persona, they are unlikely to take a liking to Faria.

    Why does Mourinho value him so highly?

    In a word: loyalty. Faria has been at Mourinho's side longer than any other member of his current inner circle -- even goalkeeping coach Silvino Louro, who has followed Mourinho since his time at Porto and is expected to replace the departed Frans Hoek at United.

    "If one day I have to speak about disciples, the real one is the one that is with me since 2000," Mourinho said of Faria last summer. "The one that has more potential than any other one, the one that if he wants to become a manager tomorrow he is more than ready to do it at the highest level, but is the one that simply is enjoying so much to be where he is that doesn't have that feeling."

    Faria has never sought a managerial role elsewhere even as he watched former colleagues Andre Villas-Boas, Baltemar Brito, Karanka and Jose Morais all strike out on their own coaching paths to varying degrees of success.

    When Mourinho was accused of breaching a UEFA stadium ban for a Champions League quarterfinal against Bayern Munich during his first Chelsea spell, Faria was the man spotted in the Stamford Bridge dugout wearing a woolly hat and -- allegedly -- a concealed earpiece.

    When Mourinho took a nine-month break between his first Chelsea sacking in September 2007 and arrival at Inter in June 2008, so too did Faria.

    The two men have been inseparable for 15 years, their relationship underpinning Mourinho's astonishing run of coaching successes. United hope it will yield more silverware in the coming seasons -- though if history is any guide, they should be prepared for more than a few fireworks along the way.
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    He's worked with Mourinho everywhere, so he would need to have some outright desire to go out on his own for Jose to replace him. I doubt Jose would replace him otherwise, nor do I think he'd stop him from going if he wanted to be a manager. Jose takes him to every club he is appointed at, so I'd say he's rather important to his set-up. Why rock the boat for the sake of change?

    His expertise lies in fitness coaching IIRC, but he's been Jose's #2 for a long time during spells of great success, I would imagine his knowledge is much broader now.

    He was a bit of a hothead at Chelsea and Madrid, got in to a number of altercations on the touchline, but he's been very reserved at United. He often looks more fed up than Jose does.
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    Hart to say since his works and what he bring to the team lacks publicity and mostly backroom.

    I think he compliments Jose so a good pair both of them. Jose can be too hard and demanding, while Rui Faria strike me as a soft understanding kind of person.

    Still, to be Jose's assistant... I'm very sure he have hidden useful qualities.
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    Interesting. Good read. Thanks. Cheers.
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    Nice one, thanks.
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    High praise from Jose.

    Faria is also, like JM, known to have a fiery temper :devil:

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    The mystery of Phelan continues even after he's gone.
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    I think Jose himself said the same thing too a couple of years ago. Shows the trust in him. Very high praise.

    Edit: @SirAF added the quotes.
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    :keano: Not so obvious fighting spirit.

    Good to know and good to have as one of our coach.

    :drool: Shiii, damn that's so good, I wonder when he'll erupt for us.
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    He did what most of us would if we met Mike Dean :lol:
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    He'd be better in shorts, I think we can all agree on that.
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    I love shit like that :lol:
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    Are you talking about the same Rui Faria everyone else is talking about?
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    :lol: :D
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    Yeah, nothing wrong with a fiery temper every once in a while.
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    After reading the many posts of this thread... "Softer understanding kind of person compare to Jose, with tendency to erupt once in a while."
    There, happy? I don't frickin follow Jose's career like a worshipper.

    Did you even the read the article and reports of his relationships with the players especially at Real?

    :D Cheers mate.
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    I remembered reading somewhere that Faria is his brother in law.
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    That is incorrect, but his wife and Rui share the same last name.
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    What does Rui Faria do?
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    Love these threads. It's gone from 'Mourinho and his staff only coach the defence. They never do any attacking coaching" to "Let's point the finger of blame at this person I know nothing about". While evidence is scant, speculation and finger-pointing thrive in the search for simple answers.
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    The Portugese Mick Phelan.
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    Rui Faria is an accomplished assistant manager with good tactical understanding and knowledge of training. He has been praised for his work and academic accomplishments. He's extremely loyal to Mourinho and his resolve has been tested by invites to manage all three big clubs in Portugal and midtier european clubs. I think he would be more successful than AVB, since i rate him higher in football knowledge but he has no wish to go solo.
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    Based upon what you read about his temper and the fact he's regarded as Mourinho's attack dog, he has the haircut of a much kinder man.
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    Does he wear shorts? Does he like balloons?
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    Wouldn't the available evidence suggest that Mike Phelan hated balloons?
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    Probably still does, tbf.
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    Has a single person actually done that? The OP certainly didnt.
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    He did talk about himself in the third person, though, which is arguably the worst crime in the world.
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    Original post, original poster. Whatevz.
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    Yeah, but I'm choosing to read it in the most damaging way for you. Obviously.
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    FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster

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    I was listening to Joey Barton's "Edge" podcast which had Gary Neville on for one episode. It was interesting to listen to them talk about Fergie and how he had kept himself quite fresh by every so often changing his assistant managers and helped him immensely.

    I know this post will come across as another criticism of Mourinho but it's just interesting that two managers had a slightly differing perspective though Fergie stuck with Phelan longer than most expected.
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    Adebesi Full Member

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    Adebesi may talk about himself in the third person. Adebesi may know absolutely sod all about football. Adebesi may be the author of some very boring posts. But Adebesi DID NOT say our problems were down to Rui Faria.

    And Adebesi is struggling to recall anyone else saying that in this thread either.

    Adebesi is of the opinion that @beedoubleyou owes everyone in this thread an apology.
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    Sly Hang Ten Scout

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    That's a portuguese football trait.
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    Adebesi Full Member

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    Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth.
    Adebesi does have some Portuguese ancestry if you go back far enough.
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    Brophs The one and only

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    I dunno. I think @beedoubleyou made some really great points. He has you bang to rights. Give up. It's over.
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    Interesting, I'm sure that helps Fergie in continuously adapting his football throughout his career of managing us. I mean, Queiroz brings the continental kind of tactics intricacies and 4-3-3 formation to him, which he eventually incorporated into his CL quest after Quieroz left.