Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by Pogue Mahone, Feb 17, 2018.
I really enjoyed this.
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I'm glad he left with Ferguson on a high rather than after 11/12, despite not being at his best in 12/13.
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Why would he need to buy new boots? Did he bin all his boots when he retired or is a contract thing with Nike that he can't use those boots?
where's the redcafe thread of the time? would love to read it!
It was Rafael and Park in midfield for that Blackburn defeat if I remember correctly.
Thanks for posting!
I remember all the emotions of that City game. The shock of seeing Scholes on the bench, the joy of being 3-0, the excitement of seeing Scholes come on again, turning into a nervous wreck going from 3-0 to 3-1 to 3-2, to relief at the final whistle.
Same. It just felt right! He did have some good games that season so it wasn't all bad. Two I remember were Wigan at home (he scored in a 4-0 win) and away to West Ham in the FA Cup. He probably had more but those are two I remember.
Highlights how desperate our situation in midfield had become.
Liked the bit about Pogba not playing well enough to warrant a starting place in the first team.
Thought that was interesting myself. One of those “well, he would know” bits about that story.
Pogba not being good enough yet got MOTM in the cameos (in January) he had yet was still dropped the following match? Right Paul......
He never got MOM for his cameos at all.
Yes a sobering reminder for posters here that all was sometimes less than rosy in the SAF era. There was moaning then, too.
He said his new boots were a rip off. Welcome to the real world Paul
So many were moaning about it back then to my surprise. I remember reading the team sheet and being so excited about it -- Scholes was back! Logged in to Redcafe and saw all the moaners and thought... jeez..
If you watched the match itself, you would definitely know that he brought a calming influence into our midfield every single time he came on. He played like a man beyond his years and merited at least some starts after doing so well. Maybe he didnt get the awards but I do recall 1) SAF promising him and Ravel some starts or he feared losing them (Summer 2011) and 2) Seeing two defenders in midfield when our midfield was decimated against Blackburn and how terribly we played that day. I knew Pogba had to be fuming...because for all the performances he put in, he wasnt given a fair shot.
Here is a vid from that home debut against Stoke:
Am guessing he binned his boots - At that stage of his career his contract with Nike wouldn't have stipulated which boots he could or couldn't have worn.
I'm surprised he didn't get some from Nike - had he asked for some for training with the reserves then it wouldn't have tipped anyone off.
Love Scholesy but he should never have needed to be brought back. Ferguson make a complete and utter mess of that midfield.
That was my thinking too.
Strange to throw away your boots though considering he obviously was still going to play at amateur level.
Great video though.
I doubt players take their boots home. He probably just didn't actually own any.
They get them custom molded to their feet don't they?
I dunno, maybe yeah? Wouldn't surprise me if some do. I'm sure they're all left to the kitman though, rather than ever taking them home.
From memory it was the Sun who reported it first on the morning of the City tie. It barely got over a page, got rightly laughed out of town, then he ended up in the squad
That's just not true. I remember excitedly waiting for him to come on as a sub only for him to disappoint (just a little), and calming influence is the last thing I would describe his cameos. Plus he never got MOTM in any matches, you might have given yours to him but no, just not true.
Pogba was being punished for not signing a new contract. Surely, even an off form Pogba is better then Cleverley.
Just goes to show even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Wait a second, this timeline is a bit off. Fabio didnt play against Blackburn that year. It was Park Ji-Sung holding and Danny Welbeck in the centre midfield role with Nani and Valencia as wingers and Hernandez and Berbatov up front. I remember because Carrick would help out as a sweeper type centre half to help the midfield out and Wellbeck would drift out wide.
Pogba thing is overblown. It was the defenders that were all injured. Vidic, Ferdinand and Evans were all out, so Carrick had to join the defence. This was more of an experiment gone wrong, rather than Ferguson not giving Pogba a chance.
No it was Rafael and Ji Sung Park in midfield.
Match report: http://www.skysports.com/football/man-utd-vs-blackburn/teams/238061
Precisely. It was blatantly obvious, especially as he knew Scholes was coming back..... I doubt those two were any kind of friends on or off the pitch. Which is why I take what Scholes says about him with a pinch of salt.
Even though I agree on the concept, it was still a magical moment to see him coming as a sub against City. An unforgettable moment for me.
Yet still won the league in 12/13 with a midfield that would make most top managers shudder, a real shame he couldn't hang on to spend the real money we have done since he left, sure as hell he'd have spent it better.
First and last pieces of action: beautiful slide tackles.
Come on Paul, you’ve got that in you.
Yeah, love the way he got both names wrong!
I remember that game well, as I had Rooney as captain in the fantasy football, and was horrified to hear he'd been left out for disciplinary reasons.
Gibson as well.
Hadn't they had the audacity to go for a meal about 5 days before a game
I was coming back from a running race and put the radio on at half time, to be amazed to hear we were 3-0 up away at City.
To then be even more amazed to hear Scholes was on the bench!
And we had no Rooney or Evans or Gibson because Ferguson dropped them because they went out together FIVE days before the match:
So not only was he playing childish games with Pogba, he went completely overboard with sanctioning three players we couldnt afford to be without in a game which ultimately proved to be a game that cost us the title.
He effectively threw the league away that year due to his hubris.
Yep and it was 3-1 when he came on vs City, his memory isn’t great
Everyone forgets how awful he was against Palace when we were bounced out of the League Cup that year. It's nice to see that the common view of Pogba's reserve performances being poor at the time is shared by the likes of Scholes. There is a lot of revisionist history based on a few cameos after that infamous Blackburn match.
I did watch the match itself. I watched all his cameos. He absolutely did not bring a “calming influence into our midfield” every time he featured: The Stoke game was actually the one and only appearance where he impressed. He was fecking dreadful in the League Cup. Came off the bech and the next substitution was forced by the need to compensate for the game completely passing him by since he came on.
He really did. Let Gary neville stay hang on for too long too, as much as I loved those players.
Fergie got too sentimental towards the end sadly, should have left a better squad for whoever took over.
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