Sir Bobby at 80 - BBC Documentary 8th October

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    Zebs Clare Bald'ings Daughter

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    Really looking forward to this.

    Airing on 10.30pm on Sunday 8th of October.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/pr...ffice&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=corporate
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    FujiVice Full Member

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    Great man.
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Ashingtons finest. Strangely nobody there likes him (well all the ones I met and mentioned him to anyway)

    They all had high praise for Jack though, or at the very least no vitriol.
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    Bobby didn't seem to get on too well with the rest of his family either according to a lot of reports.

    Nobody really knows what goes on behind the scenes anyway, a legend of the game and is Mr. Manchester United
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Yeah no doubt, think of United and he's pretty much the personification of them. I just found it odd at the time someone so famous and from a little town wasn't liked by the people there. Maybe he left a bar bill that was never paid or something before he left I dunno :D
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    black country red New Member

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    englands greatest ever player
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    Without a doubt.
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    My favourite ever United player.

    Be interesting see if they can come up with anything new to say about him though.
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Doubtful - 1966, Benfica, Munich tragedy, Georgie Best, that haircut, fawning celebrity fans and Fergie. Can pretty much watch it in your head already.
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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    A bit more of the old footage would be nice though, particularly the long range shooting. I think he said about himself "...I could score the odd goal from a distance".
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Aye I do enjoy watching those rockets myself, especially knowing how fecking brutal those balls were in that era.
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    a_devil_inside Big footed hermaphrodite

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    Sounds good, hopefully with some footage I've not seen before or forgotten about.
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    Great man, a living legend.

    Will be a good watch id imagine, at 80 we should savour every moment we have with him.
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    Nikelesh Reddy Full Member

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    Can't wait to watch this,should be fascinating!
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    That was to do with his wife i believe.
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    Also scored one of my favourite ever United team goals v Spurs in the 67 Charity shield, watch it on YouTube , classic commentary
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    Makes you wonder how hard he could hit the sort of ball they play with these days. Wouldn't fancy being the 'keeper.
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    Can't wait for this. Icon and hero of Manchester.
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    For me he is the second best player to have ever played for the club, only behind George Best. But Bobby is the greatest legend to have played for the club.
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    Just seen the trailer for this on facebook,



    In the comments section, a poster called Ryan Sutton posted this poem, I have never heard it before but it is beautiful.


    T’was the night before Christmas, Old Trafford was bare.
    The staff all gone home, there was nobody there..
    The lights cast a shadow, a soft glimmer which
    lit up the soft green grass on the pitch.

    Just as the clock gave out its twelfth chime
    An old man appeared, as if frozen in time.
    He gazed at the tunnel, then broke out in voice
    “ITS TIME TO BEGIN.. LETS HAVE YOU MY BOYS”

    Out from the tunnel appeared a lone figure
    Same as in life, only infinitely bigger
    The old man called out as he slowly drew near
    “good evening Duncan, are the rest of you here”

    The figure broke out in wide open smile
    “Good Evening Sir Matt, it has been a long while
    The rest are all coming, they’ll be here soon,”
    As seven more shadows were cast by the moon.

    Whelan and Bent, Pegg, Taylor and Byrne,
    Jones , and Colman, they came out in turn.
    He greeted each one, just by calling their name
    then proudly announced “do you fancy a game”

    They took to the pitch, and the still night was broken
    By leather on leather, not one word was spoken
    They played once again, like they did long before
    And imagined the sound of the Old Trafford roar

    Edwards called out “come on lads lets pretend
    That we’ve just scored a goal at the old Stretford End”
    As they ran to the edge of the pitch by the goal
    There in the stands sat a solitary soul.

    His eyes were all puffy, his cheeks wet with tears
    As his mind wandered back to those wonderful years
    “come down and join us” they cried all as one
    “yes come down and join them” said Matt “go on son”

    The lonely man stood and with much pain he said
    “I’m afraid I can’t play with you, you are all dead.
    You are all ghosts, and I am alive
    That was the price that I paid to survive”

    My role was to go on, inspire the team
    And finally realise Matt Busby’s dream
    To tell of your greatness, and as I get older
    To burden the weight of your life on my shoulders.”

    The ghost of Sir Matt then raised up his head
    Giving out a loud groan, he finally said
    “Bobby, You survived, that much is true
    But we wouldn’t be here if it were not for you

    For you are the one who has kept us alive
    That was the reason you had to survive
    If you were with us, all we have would be gone
    And the game that we play could no longer go on

    If you can’t understand why it happened this way
    Then come here and watch when United play
    They sing about us, they remember us all
    We live and we breathe with each kick of the ball

    The legends that live here, Robson and Best,
    Cantona, Law, Giggs, Scholes and the rest
    They are us, we are them, we are all here as one
    And that is the reason United goes on

    So come down and join us, we’re begging you do
    You are still one of us, and we’re still one of you”
    And then Bobby’s face rose and he gave them a smile
    And he said “I would love to come play for a while”

    They played and they played, as they did in the past
    Only not quite as skilful, and not quite as fast
    And when it was over, and when it was done
    They’d defeated Benfica by four goals to one.

    Then Sir Matt said “lads, its been fun you know
    But It’s now Christmas day, and we really must go”
    They walked to the front of the stadium and turned
    And Sir Bobby said “there is something I’ve learned”

    “You did not die, on that February night
    You’re still here with us, as you’re with me tonight
    And you’ll live on forever as long as we play”
    As the ghosts disappeared down Sir Matt Busby Way.
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    BeforeKeanetherewasRobson Full Member

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    Who'd be around who would know him? He must have left the place in the mid 50's?
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    I love watching or going to United games when I can and seeing Sir Bobby up in the stands, always has and always will be Mr Manchester United.
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    He is only 80?!
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Did they have to know him to dislike the guy? I guess things get passed down through generations when you live in a tinpot mining town that happens to have had a mega famous resident. Stories, fables, everyone's Grandad probably knew him (they probably didn't) etc.

    I didn't genuinely think people my age knew the bloke, I just knew they called him a twat, but liked Jack. Maybe it's cos one kept his North east twang and one didn't, I haven't a clue.
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    Don't think you can understand how good he was unitil you start watching games of that era, what a legend.
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    That poem :(
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    Think he's seen as a bit big-time.

    I have family in Guardiola's town and a lot of people don't like him there either.
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    Hullyback Banned

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    Not many famous sports peeps from where I am, Luke Campbells probably the most well known at the present time, nice lad and seems to be universally liked. Nicky Barmby was pretty much the same. Can't think off the top of my head if we have anyone that nobody seems to like but I'm sure they'd be disliked if they had illusions of grandeur like the almighty Pep.
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    Mr. MUJAC Talent spotter

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    The last person to be 'big-time' would have been Bobby Charlton.

    I think after Munich he became incredibly introverted and people mistake that for being rude or ignorant sometimes.

    He left Ashington in 1953 which is nearly 65 years ago...can't think why people wouldn't like him...they wouldn't even know him.
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    Not sure mate... People have said he can be aloof, his brother included. Plus people love a bit of inverted snobbery when someone does well, don't they
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    BeforeKeanetherewasRobson Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Apparently his family hated Bobby's wife - his Mum wouldnt even send her grandkids a card. Bobby chose to side with his wife so cut the ties.... happens in loads of families?

    You can imagine it ..... "My Dad's mate swore that his Mum said Bobby was a snob. That Jack though, he still shoots stuff around here.... great guy."

    People love to dislike someone successful ESPECIALLY if they move away/change. Small town, small-minded... Just like my village :rolleyes:
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    Mr. MUJAC Talent spotter

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    All the research I have done suggests that the aloofness came after Munich...and that he was incredibly gregarious before that.

    Who knows?
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    I grew up trying to hit it like Bobby, I singlehandedly kept the local window man in full time work.
    As I've aged, I've realised that Bobby maybe lacks a bit in the personality department, who cares tho ? we can't all be raconteurs.
    He's one of the last of his kind, a connection with a tragic and then glorious past .
    He should be cherished, & he rightly is by many.
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    the pain and lost in his eyes talking about the disaster and espically about edwards ... tear in my eyes.(again)
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    Wazza is such a Chav :lol:

    Who gave him a smack?