Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by Saliph, Apr 30, 2012.
Citeh's away record as not been that good. I still believe.
It all depends on Papiss
We can still win it
We're on level points. Anything can happen, and a draw here and there is far from impossible.
I thought the goal difference was a lot higher to be honest.
I think we'll beat Swansea 10-0 and set up the best last day ever.
At the very least. I expect to be in front by more at half time.
I've seen crazier things in football. It's deffinetly not iver.
I'm not that optimistic. Even though Swansea did let Wolves score four.
City will get as many goals as they want against QPR.
That's a bit gay
9 wins, 9 draw/losses.
Newcastle have lost at home twice.
Fair play to City if they do it, but they will need six more points.
City will draw with Newcastle whilst we win vs Swansea. We'll go a goal behind at Sunderland, but equalise just before 90 minutes. Then Scholes will pop up in the 94th minute, scoring a goal that'll seal our 20th title with his last touch of the ball of his playing career.
Not a dig or anything mate....but where do you live?
All the Newcastle fans at work (and I work in Newcastle, so that's plenty) are confident they'll get at least a point against City next weekend... but even their enthusiasm isn't making me believe...
In fairness, they probably thought they'd win the Premier League in the '09 season.
You never know.
Funny thing is if City do drop points against Newcastle and we get a win against Swansea they'll be another deluge of threads on here proclaiming we've won it again before the final game has been played.
Hectic why hasn't this thread been moved to the United forum? Its driving me crazy.
Driving you crazy? Surely it's not that much of an irritant?!
Only when Shearer took over in fairness...
But we don't NEED Newcastle to beat City - a draw and it is then completely up to us.
So Newcastle lost to Wigan...so? What did we do when we went to Wigan? And when we went to Newcastle?
The fans at the "Sports Direct Arena" will be well up for playing the prospective champions.
It's true to say the momentum is with City but it's not over yet...
It ain't over till its over, have faith guys.
Newcastle will do us a favour and we'll smash Swansea.
Lancaster at the moment - I have family / friends who are support both Manchester clubs, several of them living in Manchester, the nearest (geographically) big town and United the nearest big club to me for pretty much all of my life. Of the City supporters I know I have already congratulated several of them - they are giddy at the minute and it's hard not to be pleased for them as they have waited for a long time to experience this. However with the knowledge of how they got to where they are I really don't feel gutted in the same way I would if their success hadn't been bought. For example the 5-1 in the 90s and them finishing above us in 1991 were two times which really did grate me. And every one of Liverpool's successes have massively irritated me, from the 80s when I first began following football to the present day. What Chelsea and now City have done doesn't really seem a legitimate victory in my eyes, but has massive negative consequences for the game - this particular aspect does worry me very much.
Surprised so many have conceded the title here.
Newcastle last lost 21st December at home.
I don't believe they will mess it up now that they have this chance - but by God it would be funny
I can imagine City getting a draw against Newcastle and us beating Swansea. For us to then draw in the final game at Sunderland while they win at QPR.
I am done thinking about it now, anyway. As far as Im concerned they have won the title. If it turns out any differently then happy days.
I'm not expecting it so I'm not getting my hopes up, but it really isn't beyond question that Newcastle will get something. City felt the pressure at the start yesterday and it'll be more difficult to overcome away from home.
Does nobody else feel its a bit embarrassing winning it this way? I really don't feel like we deserve it.
Absolutely. That is absolutely the point, for me.
If they drop points at Newcastle and we win our next two games, I will celebrate the victory of course and youd have to say that the table doesnt lie and over the season we would be the worthy winners on that basis. But it would not feel anything like as good as it would have to get a point last night, let alone a win. It would feel tainted. I dont think it would be a very fitting way for this season to end.
That said, it would still be preferable to them winning it.
Even IF Newcastle get something, and I mean fucking IF, we'll still need to good solid wins and even then we got 0points off City this year
No I would not feel embarassed, even if City were deducted points on the last day, and we scored through 900 Ashley Young penalties.
Some of you are too precious.
We'll deserve because we'll have won more points over 38 games than any of our rivals. It's not like City'll be embarrassed to win it because we imploded against Everton.
When the fuck did everyone start getting so embarrassed by United? Every fucking twist or turn is embarrassing this days.
Tainted? Not very fitting?
Fuck that. We've won plenty of league titles despite ignominious performances/results over the course of the campaign. I mean, how many times have fucking Liverpool - of all people - beaten us in title-winning seasons?
Could not give less of a shit about last night's result if we nick it from here.
What does it matter that we lost to City? No one loses any sleep over that time Newcastle spanked us 5-0 or when Liverpool dicked us 4-1 at OT, because we ended up winning the league, and that's all that matters in the end.
Yeah, that's fast becoming my pet hate on here.
I understand what people are saying as last night was billed as the title decider, and we lost it. But I don't think that would be remembered 5-10 years from now, only the league winner.
It is embarrassing to win it the way we now need to but it's also embarrassing to lose it the way we have, so we may as well be embarrassed by success!
Aye, fuck that sort of sentiment. Given the shite we have had to put up with in terms of injuries this year, any league win whatsoever would be a colossal achievement that every person associated with United should be incredibly proud of.
Maybe embarrassing was the wrong word, but I wouldn't feel as though we deserve it, no matter what happens now. Having seen some of our great teams play great football and earn the title, to see this team play shite for most of the season, get beaten twice by our challenger and then have to hope for fucking Newcastle to do us a favour, its not quite the same. We set the Benchmark for what is required and I don't feel we've met it.
The benchmark for what is required, is finishing above all other teams. The club that does that, deserves the league, it doesn't matter if they wrap it up in the first 10 games, or the last 1, or if it's decided by someone else, the points total is the one that matters, and is generally all that will be remembered.
This is like the 4th or 5th post I've seen in this vein today.
Wtf is all this about? Seriously?
How could we have as many points as we have if we've played shite for most of the seasons?
Besides, we didn't set any benchmark. We've lost plenty more games in previous title-winning seasons than we'll have lost by the end of this season. Scored fewer goals too.
If you want to talk about benchmarks, Arsenal set one by winning the league without losing a game. I don't think anyone gives much of a shit that we have failed to match that benchmark since.
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