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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Bielsa has admitted sending a staff member to spy on Derby's training session. Says he's done it before and as far as he is concerned there's no problem.

    Frank Lampard has said that this not only disrupted them (they had to cease training when the police removed the spy) but also it's unfair that Leeds know the formation and lineup they've been using over the past few sessions.

    What does the Caf think? Not technically against any rules so fair enough or unsportsmanlike and should not be done?

    I can't imagine Bielsa is the only manager ever to do this, anyone know of any other examples?
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    0le Full Member

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    This sort of thing will have been going on for decades. Its nothing new and whilst morally wrong, there is not a lot that can be done.
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    Is the police eager to remove people from public spaces, or was he trespassing?
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    Kostur Full Member

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    Think Poch was asked about it earlier today too.
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    Moonred Full Member

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    Just make sure you aren’t spied on. Or have tactics like Moyes so that no one gives a feck.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Lampard used the term "hiding in a bush"!! When the cops arrived he was outside the training ground.

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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Most clubs don't do it in such a small time manner, but what can you expect from Leeds. Usually clubs get fed info from journalists who have their own ways of getting this info.
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    Kostur Full Member

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    Well said by Lampard I guess.

    They should've just beaten the spy to a pulp and cut his fingers off to send the right message to Bielsa imo.
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    Or at least send a strong message.

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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    Lampard did well to stay professional there because you can tell he's absoutely furious.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    It is great that Bielsa's madness is now in England.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    I’m sure if Frank made the call to Roman Biesla would be swimming with the fishes.
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    Kostur Full Member

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    Or peed on his bed like they do in the Navy.
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    How does the "spy" get into a position where he can spy, surely there must have been a law broken to get himself into that position.
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    LInkash Full Member

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    Should be easier in the next few years with drones
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    VP89 Pogba's biggest fan

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    Lampard was spot on. Unsure why Bielsa thinks it's OK to get an unfair advantage like that.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    Realistically how much difference can spying make. Teams usually cycle through their different setups through the season and unless there's a week in between games there's little value in doing anything dramatically different tactically because players won't pick it up.
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    If Derby were stupid enough to allow it then that’s on them. Why not try everything you can to gain an advantage? I’d be all for us spying on Spurs if it meant winning the game.
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    That's already a thing in the Bundesliga. :D
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    If you knew for sure that Harry Kane had not trained in any sessions over the past week and Spurs were going with Llorente up front, it would give you an advantage. Not a massive one of course it certainly helps.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Stupid enough? Someone was hiding in a bush! Do you really expect a Championship side to have security guards patrolling their training ground?
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    LInkash Full Member

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    Just did a Google and there have been quite a few incidences already!
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    It would be more of a boost for the team to find out before the game.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    The would be finding out before the game!
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    Seeing it on the team sheet on the day vs. knowing a week ahead and creating pressure on yourself to not concede against the not-so-good striker.
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    sun_tzu The Art of Bore

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    Just assumed it would be standard that you stick a few drones over the opposition training sessions and have somebody compiling a report... Just like sending people to their matches
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    You make it sound like a Championship club doesn’t have the money to have a couple of security guards that they’d have currently employed anyway to patrol the training ground when they are working? It’s not unimaginable in any way shape or form.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    The manager would rather have a week to plan, which is why the spying goes on.
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    Small time move from one of football's most regrettable clubs.
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    Considering the last few managers we've had who seemed to do nothing but plan for what the opposition were going to do perhaps you can understand my scepticism for how valuable this is.
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    I thought this type of spying was pretty normal, not sure what all the fuss is about
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Yeah, I don't know that it makes a massive impact. Kinda like starting 2 seconds before everyone else in an olympic marathon. might not make a huge difference to the result but still shitty.
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    I love these kind of stories, even if Lampard is right at being furious.

    How is he doing as a manager? I always had him down as the most likely to succeed in management of the England players from the last decade. Is he up to bigger things?
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    Blame the victim eh? I live just round the corner from the training ground - I cycle by it every day to work.

    They have security on the gates but I never see security walking round. To be fair though there’s no need - tall trees / fencing all around so you can’t see the main pitch - just the ones the kids tend to use.

    I’m not surprised this guy was caught though - the training ground is surrounded by housing / open fields so it’s easy to spot someone
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    Annihilate Now! ...or later, I'm not fussy Scout

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    It's not right... Can't be getting shit spies doing this sort of thing.

    Should be in and out without so much as a sniff
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    Was a post in jest....