Stanford Rape Case | Rapist Brock Turner's legal team appeal conviction

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    Rado_N Yaaas Broncos!

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    I just stumbled across this story, not entirely sure how I managed to miss it until now but having just read the victim statement to the court and her attacker at the end of the trial I felt it was something that deserved to be shared as widely as possible so here's the story:

    Here Is The Powerful Letter The Stanford Victim Read Aloud To Her Attacker
    A former Stanford swimmer who sexually assaulted an unconscious woman was sentenced to six months in jail because a longer sentence would have “a severe impact on him,” according to a judge. At his sentencing Thursday, his victim read him a letter describing the “severe impact” the assault had on her.

    One night in January 2015, two Stanford University graduate students biking across campus spotted a freshman thrusting his body on top of an unconscious, half-naked woman behind a dumpster. This March, a California jury found the former student, 20-year-old Brock Allen Turner, guilty of three counts of sexual assault. Turner faced a maximum of 14 years in state prison. On Thursday, he was sentenced to six months in county jail and probation. The judge said he feared a longer sentence would have a “severe impact” on Turner, a champion swimmer who once aspired to compete in the Olympics — a point repeatedly brought up during the trial.

    On Thursday, Turner’s victim addressed him directly, detailing the severe impact his actions had on her — from the night she learned she had been assaulted by a stranger while unconscious, to the grueling trial during which Turner’s attorneys argued that she had eagerly consented.

    The woman, now 23, told BuzzFeed News she was disappointed with the “gentle” sentence and angry that Turner still denied sexually assaulting her.

    “Even if the sentence is light, hopefully this will wake people up,” she said. “I want the judge to know that he ignited a tiny fire. If anything, this is a reason for all of us to speak even louder.”

    She provided her statement, printed in full below, to BuzzFeed News.

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    This sh*t is almost as pathetic as the resulting sentence.
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    It's disgusting Steve. Her statement isn't an easy read but it's worth the time and deserves as much publicity as it can get.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    It's certainly worlds away from '20 seconds of action', mate.
    For me, the defence's efforts - and I include Turner's family's efforts - are of similar logic as some military leaders' expediency in wartime: "Let the boys have their fun with women so long as the men do their duty for us. And tell those women to quit whining about it."
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    Came across this case via the victim's statement which a lot of people have been sharing on facebook.

    There are two people in the world who think this was an appropriate sentence, the judge and the fella's dad.
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    And one of the fella´s female friends who blames political correctness:

    “Where do we draw the line and stop worrying about being politically correct every second of the day and see that rape on campuses isn’t always because people are rapists,” she wrote.

    “It is because these universities market themselves as the biggest party schools in the country. They encourage drinking.

    “I think it is disgusting and I am so sick of hearing that these young men are monsters when really, you are throwing barely 20-somethings into these camp-like university environments, supporting partying and then your mind is blown when things get out of hand.”
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    I've created 2 threads on this...but then not 'posted'.

    I am disgusted - disgusted by the son of a bitch who did the crime...by the father who made excuses for him and wrote about how he can't eat his favorite food any more and most of all, I am disgusted with the judge.

    No way in the world a black kid gets convicted for 3 counts of sexual assault...potentially a sentence of 14 year and gets 6 f-ing months (out in 3 months).
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    JustAFan The Adebayo Akinfenwa of football photoshoppers

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    Crap sentence and the US National Swim Team ought to say to this person that regardless of his times, his wins, his talent he will NEVER represent to US at any international competition that they have anything to do with.

    He can finish his degree at whatever school will take him, and pursue a career in whatever his chosen field is, but representing the nation at a sporting event well a sexual assault conviction ought to prevent that.
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    fecking hell, there are just no words for such mind boggling ignorance and stupidity.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    That sort of rubbish is the same ol' junk as "She was asking for it" - it's like blaming the gun, the location and the victim for a murder.
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    Certainly not after refusing to acknowledge culpability or show remorse either. Two things lenient sentences are usually dependent on. The defence's focus has been to shift all the blame onto drinking culture and its devastating effect on impressionable young rapists.

    It's a complete clusterfeck of entitlement and privilege.
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    Can he be retried? Or this one done and dusted?
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    So you can rape someone without being a rapist?
    Erm.........

    That judge should be sacked immediately, a completely repellent argument he amazingly agreed with.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    No - the precedent being the noted Twinkie Glove vs Chewbacca Affluenza case.
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    Love those swedes. Nice read.
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    This was the tweet that originally brought my attention to the story:

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    Very very painful to read. Shocking miscarriage of justice. Just feeling horrible for the girl and her family.
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    Wow. Whut? Seriously.
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    This is so sickening
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    There's a reasonable point in there about universities advertising themselves as the epitome of social life; really, they should surely concentrate on proclaiming their excellence as seats of learning instead (IMO). Alas, the single reasonable point is lost amongst the garbage of 'What can I say? Boys will be boys'.
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    Is that how they're advertised in the states? Surely that's not how they're advertised here, at least I don't think they are...
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    That is one powerful victim statement. Had to dry my eyes once or twice.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    I've never been to university, mate, but even I've noticed how they often present themselves (badly, in this respect).
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    Hmm strange, I can't say I've noticed. And I work in one... That might just be me being totally blind to it though. The students I've taught have always known the goal in front of them and the difficulty in attaining it.
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    Granted my experience only extends to visiting university websites; but, in Caf terms, that makes me an expert.
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    I saw his picture all over Facebook smiling, almost like a graduation picture and if I hadn't read the article I wouldn't have even imagined the happy, pure, angelic face in the pictures was that of a rapist.
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    Can't believe that sentencing and the reasoning thereof. FFS.
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    Since he has been convicted and sentenced the prosecution is most likely done, not sure they can appeal just the sentence, though laws vary from state to state.
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    I concede the point :D
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    The maximum sentence was 14 years and the recommended was 6 years. It's astounding and depressing. Was it the DA who came out and said they were disappointed with the sentence? I really hope it can be appealed.
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    I struggled to read that letter. Horrific stuff. The sentence is baffling, yet upon further digging the judge has a wide berth within which he can impose sentences. In fact mandatory minimums are opposed for placing too many people in jail by removing any opportunity for allowing mitigating circumstances to influence sentencing.

    But it's hard to justify 6 months. Especially with the lack of remorse from the convict.

    Also, was he not taught to not have sex with passed out girls, or did he just, being a sick feck, do it regardless??
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    Wasnt there a similar case of a teaching getting a lenient sentence for sleeping with one his underage students? Althought it wasnt rape he still got a very very lenient sentence if I remember correctly.
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    On one hand the last thing you want is the judiciary system being influenced by public opinion, even in a positive way. On the other hand it is possible that the judge bungled the probation report, read too much into the victim's plea for leniency, or has a hard-on for privilege. If the latter, there should be room for reevaluation of the sentence by the state judiciary.
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    His father's words might shed some light on his how his attitudes and outlooks were shaped

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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    Y'know, even given the natural bias a father would have towards his son, that statement is just bloody incredible...and not only for the obvious, stand-out details.