Stars and Reserves Draft - First Round

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  1. Dec 31, 2018
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    Stars and Reserves Draft


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    Draft Restrictions/Allowances:

    1.
    All-time draft with Block list and restricted number of Star players(see below).
    2. Initial drafting of 12 players snake style.
    3. The maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 2 (3 with the young player bonus).
    4. 8 hrs per pick. Do not wait or provide extra time.
    5. No change in picks after posting.
    6. No substitutions. Tactical changes with in-field players only.
    7. Don’t be a smartass and try to pick a player based on some spelling error, if you are not sure which player it is ask beforehand:)


    1 Full match rule
    Any players born on or before 31st December 1939 must come with a link to a full game in which they appeared. Otherwise the pick will be invalid and the next drafter can pick immediately. You can then post a valid pick asap.

    Sites for finding full length games:

    https://www.dailymotion.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/
    https://footballia.net/


    Young Player Bonus:
    Y1.
    You can gain the right of playing an additional star player in your starting 11 if you start an outfield player (read: keepers don't count!) born on or after 1st January 1995.
    Y2. You can only gain the right once during a match, so playing 2 young players doesn't mean you get 2 extra star player spots.
    Y3. Kylian Mbappe and Jose Maria Gimenez are excluded from this rule, meaning that playing them won't get you any additional spots.
    Y4.
    All young players are judged based on the performance level they have shown so far, not based on their potential. This means a CF who has scored 10 goals in a full season should be rated on the same level as a 28 years old striker who scores 10 goals in a season.


    Reinforcement rules
    R1.
    Extra 2 players per Reinforcement Round, 1 before the final, with the standard inverting the draft order method snake style. Players from losing teams are now open to pick, as well as all undrafted players subject to criteria/blocks of course.
    R2. After the QF, the maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 3 (4 with the young player bonus).
    R3. The final reinforcement round will have a special event, which will be announced at some point later


    In the event of a draw
    Draws will be decided by goalkeepers. The committee (which the draft master isn’t part of) will rank the 16 drafted keepers after drafting is finished and the team with the better keeper will advance in case of a draw. Please keep in mind that some keepers are blocked.


    Assistant/Co Managers:
    In match thread, only one of the managers is allowed to post for the duration of the match. The other manager is restricted to 3 posts or less for the duration of match thread. Make your choice and make it clear on match thread on who will lead the discussions.

    It's not one at at time. It's just one for the match.

    Match submissions:
    More of a request. Most managers have multiple days before their matches are due to be played. Please make your submission before and do not wait for match day to make your submission and avoid last minute delays.



    Uwe Seeler
    G. Batistuta
    L. Riva
    P. Elkjaer Larsen
    Tostao
    M. Kempes
    G. Nordahl
    A. Spencer
    S. Eto‘o
    A. Shevchenko
    J. Fontaine
    Luis Suarez (URU)
    G. Weah
    R. van Nistelrooy
    J. Greaves
    J. Charles
    Careca
    R. Kopa
    D. Bergkamp
    F. Totti
    J. A. Schiaffino
    T. Cubillas
    Kaka
    H. Stoichkov
    P. Littbarski
    P. Nedved
    Z. Boniek
    Z. Czibor
    O. Blokhin
    D. Dzajic
    R. Rensenbrink
    F. Gento
    Rivelino
    J.M. Moreno
    L. Kubala
    Jairzinho
    K. Hamrin
    A. Robben
    R. Giggs
    D. Beckham
    G. Meazza
    S. Mazzola
    G.Lato
    B. Conti
    T. Finney
    J. Johnstone
    A. Del Piero

    G. Netzer
    M. Laudrup
    Rui Costa
    G. Hagi
    G. Rivera
    Socrates
    B. Schuster
    W. Overath
    M. Ballack
    C. Seedorf
    Deco
    L. Modric
    M. Tardelli
    J. Bozsik
    P. Scholes
    A. Pirlo
    W. van Hanegem
    G. Souness
    P. Vieira
    J. L. Andrade
    Gerson
    E. Ocwirk
    M. Coluna
    Pirri
    V. Mazzola
    A. Vidal
    Xabi Alonso
    D. Deschamps
    Uli Stielike
    C. Makelele
    L. Monti
    Zito
    N. Goncalves
    T. Cerezo
    S. Busquets
    Clodoaldo

    J. Nasazzi
    J. Santamaria
    A. Shesternyov
    H. Chumpitaz
    P. Vierchowod
    D. Godin
    L. Blanc
    N. Vidic
    O. Ruggeri
    M. Tresor
    R. Koeman
    R. Carvalho
    A. Picchi
    C. Ferrara
    F. Hierro
    C. Gentile
    S. Campbell
    V. Vasovic
    Lucio
    B. Wright
    R. Perfumo
    R. Ayala
    E. Gerets
    T. Burgnich
    D. McGrain
    M. Amoros
    D. Alves
    V. R. Andrade
    M. Kaltz
    V. Bezsonov
    S. Reuter
    Leovegildo Junior
    J. A. Camacho
    B. Zebec
    B. Lizarazu
    M. Bossis
    Marcelo
    A. Cole
    K. H. Schnellinger
    S. Marzolini
    A. Demyanenko
    H. P. Briegel

    Ronaldo Luis Nazario
    G. Müller
    Eusebio
    M. van Basten
    Romario
    T. Henry
    S. Kocsis
    D. Law
    D. Maradona
    M. Platini
    Zico
    Z. Zidane
    B. Charlton
    A. Iniesta
    Hendrik Johannes Cruyff
    C. Ronaldo
    Ronaldinho
    L. Messi
    Garrincha
    G. Best
    K. H. Rummenigge
    Pele
    A. Di Stefano
    F. Puskas
    R. Gullit
    R. Baggio
    Rivaldo
    S. Matthews
    L. Figo
    L. Matthäus
    P. R. Falcao
    Xavi
    F. Redondo
    B. Robson
    Luis Suarez Miramontes
    Roy Keane
    J. Neeskens
    P. Breitner
    Didi
    D. Edwards
    J. Masopust
    B. Schweinsteiger
    F. Rijkaard
    O. Varela
    E. Davids
    V. Voronin
    J. Tigana
    F. Beckenbauer
    F. Baresi
    E. Figueroa
    G. Scirea
    B. Moore
    A. Nesta
    D. Passarella
    R. Krol
    M. Desailly
    J. Kohler
    M. Sammer
    P. McGrath
    K. H. Förster
    J. Stam
    F. Cannavaro
    R. Ferdinand
    B. Vogts
    L. Thuram
    J. Zanetti
    Cafu
    C. Alberto
    Djalma Santos
    G. Bergomi
    P. Lahm
    P. Maldini
    G. Facchetti
    A. Brehme
    Nilton Santos
    A. Cabrini
    Roberto Carlos
    G. Buffon
    L. Yashin
    S. Maier
    P. Schmeichel
    G. Banks
    R. Dasayev
    M. Neuer
    D. Zoff
    Ubaldo Fillol
    E. Van der Sar
    L. Mazurkiewicz
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  2. Dec 31, 2018
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    Stars and Reserves Draft Sign-up

    1. Moby
    2. MJJ
    3. Edgar Allan Pillow/Indnyc/oneniltothearsenal
    4. Michaelf7777777/cubemine
    5. Physiocrat
    6. Himannv/2mufc0
    7. green_smiley
    8. Don Alfredo
    9. Skizzo
    10.
    11. Ecstatic
    12. Sjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard
    13. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium
    14. GodShaveTheQueen
    15. Jim Beam/Invictus
    16. Gio

    One free space, so if some AM wants to have a solo ride he can have it
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    Looks good @Don Alfredo Clear rules all round and a good concept. Just hope I get a good drafting position
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    Šjor Bepo Full Member

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    @Don Alfredo did you just add players into blocks and stars lists or you removed any?
  5. Threadmark: Changes to Block and Star Player List
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    Big thanks to Enigma for helping me with running the draft and compiling the lists, if anyone wants an overview over the changes made to the lists @Šjor Bepo

    Block List Changes:
    - Dzajic
    - Laudrup
    + G. Buffon
    + L. Yashin
    + S. Maier
    + P. Schmeichel
    + G. Banks
    + R. Dasayev
    + M. Neuer
    + D. Zoff
    + Ubaldo Fillol
    + E. Van der Sar
    + L. Mazurkiewicz


    Star Player List Changes:
    + Dzajic
    + Laudrup
    - Rosato
    + Vasovic
    + Lucio
    + B. Wright
    + Briegel
    + Reuter
    + Perfumo
    + Ayala
    + Xabi Alonso
    + Hagi
    + Rui Costa
    + Ballack
    + Seedorf
    + Deco
    + Deschamps
    + Weah
    + van Nistelrooy
    + Greaves
    + Charles
    + Littbarski

    Young player rule exemption:
    + Gimenez
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    Šjor Bepo Full Member

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    thanks!
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    :( @some of the additions to star players. Still can pull of the concept though, hopefully
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    I forgot that I blocked some keepers as well, they were in the block list in the op but have added them to the "Changes" list as well:)
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    It might be worth adding the changes list to the OP or thread marking the post for ease of reference
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Indnyc Full Member

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    Looks good @Don Alfredo

    For the goalkeeper rankings.. Is that something that can be posted beforehand? For e.g. The list from Peaches and Goat draft is a useful starting point
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    Awesome.

    Updated drafter list

    Stars and Reserves Draft Sign-up

    1. Moby
    2. MJJ
    3. Edgar Allan Pillow/Indnyc/oneniltothearsenal
    4. Michaelf7777777/cubemine
    5. Physiocrat
    6. Himannv/2mufc0
    7. green_smiley
    8. Don Alfredo
    9. Skizzo
    10. Brwned
    11. Ecstatic
    12. Sjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard
    13. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium
    14. GodShaveTheQueen
    15. Jim Beam/Invictus
    16. Gio

    @Don Alfredo
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Think that would impact the drafting process. It’s better to be kept in secret and afterwards published in case of draw and after matches are done.

    Hopefully we can gather 3-4 people panel so it’s even more accurate.
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    P-Nut0712 fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    Looking forward to this, think there should be some interesting sides.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    On it
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    Not the best position but glad not to be towards the beginning of drafting list
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Think in this one the position in order shouldn't matter much as the big block list guarantee a bit of a level field in terms of picking star players.

    Maybe the bottom would have the advantage of double pick, but being bang in the middle in this draft isn't really bad thing, which usually happens with other drafts where the GOAT's are available.
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Ok so I'll need to take 30 mins or so later this eve to figure out what I'm doing. Doing hold it against me to begin with! Once I'm in the groove it's smooth sailing but I barely know what's happening. If anyone wants to speed things up, a quick summary of how to approach this would definitely help!
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    @Brwned I think we have to at least wait the semis of the previous draft to finish to begin with this one so you lads have plenty of time to research.
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    Jim and Invictus are ready..

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    Gio 6 times Redcafe Draft Winner

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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Perfect.
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    So as I read it there's 125 star players that can be chosen, a maximum of 48 of those can be chosen in total, and so the minimum total number of players excluded is 213? Seems a lot to exclude, I figure you can chop off 25 star players from that initial star players list? I'm cool with whatever, just want to make sure I've not misunderstood anything before I start planning...
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    It's primarily a reserve draft with some star players added in to make it more interesting:) I looked it up and the block list of the last reserve draft was even longer:wenger:

    If you choose to go down the young player route, you only have to draft 6 other reserve outfield players you like, which seems very doable. There are more than 100 fantastic players still out there, lots of gems to discover:drool:
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    Jim Beam Full Member

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    Sorry Don, a bit ahead of my schedule for the evening, so not the brightest atm. There are more than 100 young players out there?
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    That's not what I meant, I will explain it to you slowly:D

    If everyone goes down the young player route, the teams will look like this

    1 reserve keeper
    1 young player
    3 star players
    6 reserve players

    6x16 = 96

    In this scenario, there would be roughly 100 reserve players picked (if we don't count the young player and the keeper).

    That's why I said there are more than 100 fantastic players still out there, lots of great options to choose from.
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    Jim Beam Full Member

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    6x16 = 96

    And it was in front my eyes all the time... Will get back to you in the morning. :wenger:
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    Can we start now this draft with no deadline (8 hours per pick)?

    Once the current draft is over, the deadline will be applied.

    As always, I don't see the issue to start a draft in the last moments of an ongoing draft.
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    Physiocrat Full Member

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    Given the pace of the current draft I agree. Just block picks during games to guarantee maximum involvement in match threads.
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    I don't mind.. We are playing the first semi final tomorrow and the next one is on Friday
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    Hmmm what‘s your opinion on casually picking in this draft while there are no matches on, lads? @2mufc0 @Enigma_87 @Skizzo

    I‘m fine with that but if any one of you doesn‘t like it, we will wait with drafting until the semi finals are finished.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    As always I'm fine with that.
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    Pat_Mustard Full Member

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    I see no problem with getting things started now. The masses are getting restless waiting for this current draft to end :D
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    Don Alfredo Full Member

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    Alright let‘s do some casual drafting until the first semi final starts

    @GodShaveTheQueen can pick whenever he wants and there is no deadline for the next guy, just remember to tag him:)