Stop Kony 2012

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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Getting huge publicity as intended. Absolutely lighting up Twitter at the moment.
    It's a pretty impressive idea and for a very good cause. The jist of it is creating awareness via the public and arguably more importantly celebrities & politicians to eventually get the (US) government to do something about it.

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/kony2012/kony_new.html



    Could just be a fad. But if it helps even just a few it's got to be a good thing right?
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    Scrumpet There are no words

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    It's a really clever campaign. There is no doubt that it is just a fad for a lot of the people that are tweeting about it and those bracelets will just be a fashion statement for many but I guess it doesn't really matter why people are talking about it if the goal is to raise awareness.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    Pretty immense campaign. May look into it more.
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    This is probably going to end up being the biggest viral campaign in history. Without doubt a worthy cause.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    That seemed like a bunch of bollocks with links nothing to do with what they are saying. One link had this to say:

    I'm sure there are problems with that group but I'm more ready to accept that video than that link.
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    Just watched this.

    feck the people saying it's pointless and not to support it.

    What harm could come from supporting it? Seems like a damn worthwhile cause to me. Brilliant idea tbf
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    The problem is that there are more Kony's running around free, only time will tell if they try to bring him to justice. I have a feeling a lot of people will bandwagon this, I hope not.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    It also appears that they have actually already tried to arrest Kony to some extent:

    BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Ugandan army 'kills senior rebel'

    He's been on the run since 2005.
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    Laidback Levo Reclining

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    Just about to post a thread about this, picking up some serious heat on FB.
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    Adzzz Astrophysical Genius - Hard for Grinner

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    CIA could serve up one Kony lamestation, would anyone mind? I wouldn't.
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    Adzzz Astrophysical Genius - Hard for Grinner

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    Fantastic campaign. When I saw my facebook bombarded with 'Kony 2012' I thought he was some sort of singer, few hours later I know what it's all about. Think of it like a tree - one person sends it to five people, those five send it to another five and so on, which is basically what's happening. The goal is to make him a household name, and by next Friday I reckon they'll accomplish that.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Is that not kind of the idea? They recruited the celebrities to get more public on their side, who will then spread the message themselves and a percentage will pester the politicians.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    Right and then what about the next tyrant that needs to be brought to justice will as many people care about that? How many of these people want to see Assad stopped in Syria right now, isn't that something we should also be fighting for?
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    Surely a little good is better than no good at all?
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    Adzzz Astrophysical Genius - Hard for Grinner

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    It's not as if opposing one doesn't mean you can't oppose another? Or that we should pick and choose, but it's important people are aware of all the arseholes.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    Right but I just hope that this will continue to happen for many other tyrants and what not and not just prove a flash in the pan for Kony.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    It is indeed but we need to push that, it's a start I hope.
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    Persian-Fred Banned

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    I watched it and was taken in at first, but I think it's clear that the whole story isn't being told in it. It's very very persuasive and well made, it's truely an excellent promotional video, but there's a lot of people on my Facebook (who are the types to know about Kony etc) who are absolutely slating it, and having a go at the people sharing it. I don't know the ins and outs of it, and so won't get drawn into a debate, but it's clear that they're only telling people what they want to hear with that. Apparently Kony hasn't been in Uganda for years, and is actually in the DRC, where Uganda have no rights to arrest him. Apparently there's corruption with the Ugandan Government about why he hasn't been arrested already. Apparently the owners of InvisibleChildrenInc pay themselves $90k p/a, more than double what other charity leaders pay themselves.

    I just dont think it's as clear cut as all the people on Facebook seem to be suggesting it is.
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    iSparky Likes Dags. but not as much as his Dad

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    This has been all over my facebook and twitter feeds today, getting massive publicity at the moment
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    Scrumpet There are no words

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    I think it explains in the video that he isn't in Uganda anymore to be fair, but I agree that everyone is being taken in by the video when there may be more to it than is being suggested.

    It's pretty much all everyone is talking about on Facebook at the moment. This is probably my favourite comment on my news feed:

    what's this kony shite? I aint watching a 29min vid that don't have tits in it...
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Those that are opposing it are slating what IC are giving as facts without backing up their own. Some good points raised but without the proof how do they expect people to believe them over anyone else?
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    Persian-Fred Banned

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    :lol: At the comment. I've have some pretty good ones too.

    But yeah, the video definitely leaves a lot of questions unanswered, like why hasn't the Ugandan government done anything to stop Kony before? If this was taking place in any other country, that person would be killed within 24 hours. Like I said, I can't comment much on the discrepancies because I don't know about it myself, but it's certainly food for thought.
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    Team Brian GB Baby Cameron loves X-Factor

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    That is like saying why wasn't Bin Laden killed before 2011, these things are not typically easy.
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    Persian-Fred Banned

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    I'm fully aware of that, and don't try to drag me into a debate about this.

    There are arguments both for and against InvisibleChildrenInc - I was listing a couple that I'd already seen.
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    Team Brian GB Baby Cameron loves X-Factor

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    I am not debating anything, I am just dismissing this idea that we can get involved in a conflict and find the opposing antagonist quickly - our experience of Iraq and Afghanistan of recent years should tell anybody that these individuals are often very difficult to find.
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    "It's pompous twaddle with no relevance to fecking anything."

    That line in particular didn't make much sense. It talks about facebook, and how easily connected we are, bringing it to its final point, of how the best way to raise awareness for something, is publish it where lots of people can see it. Where better than facebook? Strange, strange blog.

    Usually, that makes sense. "Like to raise awareness for cancer" I'm sorry, but who the hell isn't aware of cancer? Liking that does nothing, however sharing that video makes people aware of something no one knew about 24 ours ago.
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    Kaos Full Member

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    If anything its the other way round.

    Raising awareness for cancer means raising awareness for the various charities that work to increase funding for cancer research, which as we speak are striving to further understand the pathology behind cancer, and can hence work to develop more effective treatments.

    However people just seemed to have watched this one video and have immediately jumped on this Kony bandwagon, with only an extreme minority bothering to look up this organisation and whether they're in anyway credible.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots

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    Theres a big call not to donate money to the IC because they don't spend it as well as they should. That doesn't mean to say no one should get behind the awareness campaign though.
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    ArmchairCritic You got pets me too mines are dead

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    Ignoring the blogger's personal opinion it was a decent summary of all the negative things I had read about the IC. As I have said I fully support the intention of raising awareness about Kony to make him infamous (not famous as they say, IMO infamous is more accurate).
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    Spreading awareness is fine, this Kony fella is clearly a horrible scumbag who deserves the worst he can get.

    I'm just saying people ought to be more sceptical over donating to this particular organisation. Its a frightening testament to how easily fickle or swayed people can be.
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    LARulz Full Member

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    Exactly. I applaud them for raising awareness and getting people talking about it but people for the most can be incredibly stupid and just not think logically. Many of the general supporters who could see this as a fad are not asking where the money is going/how it is being spent etc. Many people on my facebook page are just supporting them blindly which is just stupid.
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    This picture worries me, if these actually are the founders of Invisible Children.
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    Taking ‘Kony 2012′ Down A Notch | Justice in Conflict

    I think most people wouldn't disagree with the notion that awareness is usually a good thing. Overall the campaign may have some positive indirect effects. I just feel like the focus on one man that is already being hunted is a bit misguided, especially if there's a good chance that removing him from the equation isn't going to change much for the Ugandan people.

    I think it's simply easier for people to get behind a cause when you put a single face to your enemy. Somehow it's easier to get people riled up when you say "This man is a criminal" rather than some general statement like "Let's work to stop the violence in North Africa".

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