Tahith Chong | 2018/19 Performances

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  1. Oct 26, 2018

    SteveW Full Member

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    No. He's a good player but extremely lightweight. He's at least a year away from being able to play PL regularly imo.

    This is only an issue because he got named in a squad due to injuries. Nobody with a good knowledge of the player really wants him in the first team yet.
  2. Oct 26, 2018

    PepsiCola Full Member

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    We'll never know if this would have been the case.

    The way i see it, he could have been no worse than Lukaku or Rashford. They were both horrific.

    The point is, our manager is too afraid to try something new. Hed rather lose 1-0 than take a risk as we'd potentially lose 2-0. A coward of a man.
  3. Oct 26, 2018

    Adam-Utd Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    He's definitely good enough for a 20 minute cameo ffs.

    It's not like he could do any worse than Rashford on the right, at least Chong can dribble his man!
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    Not true, he was certainly worth a run at the end of the game too.
  5. Oct 26, 2018

    johanovic Full Member

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    Of course Chong is ready for his chance. People saying he is lightweight should remember players like Giggs. Giggs was just a skinny young boy with pace and ability to take people on when he was given a chance. Chong is fast, works hard, has good technical skills and seems to me as someone having a good football brain. I would also go so far to say that Gomes should be given his chance also plus there are players like Greenwood,Garner,Laird,Tuanzebe,Mensah that would in my opinon be much better squad options than Rojo,Jones,Darmian and others in the squad. Saying Chong is not strong enough when Mata despite his football ability is lacking in pace, strength and movement is interesting. Hearing Mourinho saying he could not bring anybody on against Juve because Fellaini was not on the bench is pathetic. If Chong was on the United bench then surely he´s good enough to play, what´s the point in having him there otherwise? What kind of message is that to the bench players. I´m sure a midfield of Herrera,Pereira and Pogba would have given us much more in that game and we would have been able to pass the ball around. A front 3 of Rashford,Martial and Chong would ensure movement and give a new dimension to the attack. Lukaku is just dreadful when it comes to being involved in the play and can not hold the ball to bring others to play around him. For Mourinho to keep on with him and then throw the donkey Fellaini on and resort to tactis like Wimbledon did back in the day just does not work and is not befitting of a club like Man Utd.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Chong is not ready. His height and body type make him very easy to knock off the ball. He also missed a year of development through injury. It would be a major struggle for him right now to play in the first team.

    I've no issue with giving him cameos when games are wrapped up. But to think he should be used in important matches right now is extremely naive.
  7. Oct 26, 2018

    cyberman Full Member

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    Hiding behing youth is just as cowardly.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager

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    I couldn't think of anything worse. We would definitely finish in the bottom half of the table if that was our main strike force.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    At least Jose got to save a life. Glad we ain't preparing for a funeral rn.
  10. Oct 26, 2018

    PepsiCola Full Member

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    What?

    The guy refused to make a single change in the 90 minutes. Even 3 safe bets in Herrera, Pereira and Fred (all who would have improved on Matic and provide energy in midfield), were unused.

    The annoyance is at his refusal to take a risk when 1-0 down. His comments just add to it, given what we've seen happen in the history of the club.
  11. Oct 26, 2018

    cyberman Full Member

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    Throwing a youngster on who isn't physically ready just in case he pulls something out of the hat is incredibly cowardly.
    Its bottling the last twenty minutes basically.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    It would be seen by most as giving up on the game.
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    PepsiCola Full Member

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    Its not just throwing on a youngster, for me.

    My initial annoyance came at the refusal to change anything. Not a single substitution made.

    The comments post game just added to it.
  14. Oct 26, 2018

    FerociousCorgis New Member

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    all this talk about chong not being ready to handle even stepping out on the field is silly. He had some pretty good minutes in the preseason with the squad. Maybe Mou should have spent less time whining about the preseason being a waste and more time getting youngsters ready for any chance they might have to play with the main squad. Yeah it was a UCL game against Juve, but it was at OT and not in Italy. What was the point of even having chong on the bench if he didn't want to put him on if we needed an attacking spark? We clearly were not going to score even if that game had gone for another 10 hours. Worst case you try and get that attacking spark from out wide. Maybe chong gets isolated out there, maybe he finds pockets of space and wrecks havoc. Not like we would be asking him to come in and lead the line or something against Juve shit
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    johanovic Full Member

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    During Man Utd history we have been a club that has given youth a chance and we are built on that traditon. How can people make the arguement that Chong is not ready when he´s on the bench at Man Utd. How do some of you guy´s know until he has got a couple of games to show what he can do. He has the ability to take people on, is constantly moving around looking for the ball. Martial is the only attacking player at the moment that can do that. How would that change your attacking play to have people on both wings with flair and able to win 1 vs 1 situations?
    We are lacking pace, we are lacking flair players and what harm would there be in trying Martial,Rashford and Chong as the front 3? We have Lukaku and Sanchez both playing so badly that they deserve a place on the bench. (Sanzhez will probably leave in January). What else is there to try at this moment in time. Mata is not a winger and it was good to see him play the last 2 games in his natural postion and he did well in the Chelsea game even though I feel he is not good enough to play there but the best option we have. Matic is another part of the problem as he´s very slow and I think Herrera should be given a chance alongside Pogba.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    No one disagreeing with that we needed changes, but it's stupid to put it all in not putting Chong in which was the right decision. The stupid decision wasn't putting in Fred and Periera or not leaving Rashford as an impact sub instead of starting, so he deserves to be slaughtered, but not for not bringing Chong in, that was right.
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    PepsiCola Full Member

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    Yeah thats where i am in all that.

    His post match comments just rubbed me the wrong way, in addition to the initial annoyance.
  18. Oct 26, 2018

    Thiagoal New Member

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    To be fair to Mourinho, and I rarely stick up for him, Chong was selected- I'm guessing- in case one or two of the forwards got injured during the game and we HAD to bring him on!

    I think the lad is a great talent and hope he gets minutes through the rest of the season, but bringing him on to save a game against the best defence in Europe was probably an unfair ask!

    As an aside, it will be interesting to see if he starts tonight or will be in the squad on Sunday!
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    Viral United Full Member

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    Remember LVG last CL game?
    We needed goal and LVG bring on Nick Powell? I didn't remember any single comment here praising LVG to bring youngster and try to change game.
    You people seriously need to make up your mind.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    So who here thinks he should start against Everton? If he's good enough to play against Juve surely he's good enough to play against Everton.

    Who here would start him?
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    Red00012 New Member

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    He didn’t play v juve.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Exactly, mentioned in that in the no subs thread. Same situation but both managers got criticized for doing the 2 opposite things.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    They would have complained of Chong came on too. They'll complain about whatever happens.

    Powell is a bigger goal threat than Chong and was far more experienced and is a big physical presence too so it even made way more sense to play him. I mentioned in other thread but apparently it wasn't relevant. Any reason to find something new to complain about. Bunch of moany twats.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    I know. But a lot of people here seem to think he should have. I'm wondering if those people also think he should play against Everton.
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    Cliche Guevara Full Member

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    Should have brought on Bailly for Martial and Romero for Lukaku.

    What did we have to lose?
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    golden_blunder Site admin. Manchester United fan Staff

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    If he’s not ready don’t put him on the bloody bench for selection
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    Steven7290 Full Member

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    You want to give encouragement to young academy kids by letting them train with the first team, travel along and have their names on the bench, it means lots to them. You also want to protect them by not throwing them in the shit, therefore destroying their confidence for a long time to come.

    Not my word btw, a certain manager stated that in his autobiography.
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    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    But, given our injuries who should've taken that spot on the bench?

    Remember the time Pep left the bench short and everyone criticised him saying he couldve at least stuck a few young players on there, and that even being part of the squad would be good for their development, even if they didn't play?

    I suspect thats why he was there, never likely to actually play .
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    Red00012 New Member

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    Bit too soon is my opinion and not when we’re chasing a game , if we’re 3-0 up Sunday with 20 mins to go then I guess that’s ok.
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    Vanrouge Full Member

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    Not only Giggs but also Best, whose gait Chong's reminds me of.
  31. Oct 27, 2018

    RikRuud Full Member

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    Start him today abd see what he can do. If he chokes then so be it. The club was built on the "if you're good enough you're old enough" mantra. Might even inspire some of the other players to see new blood giving their all on the pitch. He'd get the crowd up everytime he touches the ball.
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    VJ1762 Full Member

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    I would be over the moon if we manage a 3-0 win. Am expecting a draw tbh.
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    Seij Full Member

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    If we are winning with 20 minutes left Jose will bring on Fellaini 3 times, and if he isn't on the bench, it will be McTominay. If neither of them is available then everyone's playing 90 minutes.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    He played 90s minutes for the reserves last night. He currently isn't good enough so I don't think that mantra fits in this instance.
  35. Oct 28, 2018

    RikRuud Full Member

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    I’m excited for his development. I’d like to see a few cameos in the first team but I guess we need to be 3 goals up for that to happen. Which is a rarity under Mourinho.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Me too. I'm really curious to see how he kicks on from here. He has a lot of really good attributes.
  37. Nov 25, 2018

    Aloysius's Back 3 Full Member

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    Sorry to bump this up but how is he defensively? Is he a pure forward or a winger that could maybe drop back a bit in the future like how we wanted perisic to play as wing back on the attack 24/7?
    From what I have seen he is much more of a pure forward but not seen enough to judge his defensive abilites.