Terry Racism Trial | Found Not Guilty | Trial starts Monday 9th July

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  1. Oct 26, 2011
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    That's the other thing acrebo, if Anton didn't know about it on the pitch, and was made aware afterward, then why would Terry speak out in the first place, unless he's done a quick time jump into the future? If Anton didn't say anything on the pitch, what could possibly give Terry a reason to say that anyway? Surely he can only respond with the comment once Anton has said something.
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    In JT world he is never wrong even when he's sleeping with his teammates partner.
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    Stan Collymore attracting some interesting commentary due to this racism stuff

    courtesy of HCK:

    andrewking85 andrewking
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    @StanCollymore what is point of ** last picture tweet.??the world don't owe you nothing you soppy black plum #thisisenglandnotafrica

    anthonyquinn11 anthony quinn
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    @StanCollymore and I guess if u were stood infront of hitler you would av defied him... Easy said 73 yrs on ya racist pig!

    justinhoward6 justin howard
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    @StanCollymore would love to know what you know Stan, you obviously know the truth!!! Seems to me you're looking for a #Lynching

    LiverpoolEwan Ewan
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    @StanCollymore loving all this stan ya big nigga x
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    You can't blame Anton for being silent. Its risky business taking on the England captain.

    This could all be sorted if Ashley fecking Cole didn't decide to prance around in front of him.
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    It's why I refuse to use twitter it's just garbage.
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    Mystery solved :lol:!

    The most likely thing is that Terry was calling him a cnut and using "black" as another adjective, not as a particularly racist insult, just as an insult.

    I don't really see how the word black makes what he said racist. Anton Ferdinand is black and Terry was calling him a cnut. I don't see how it would be any different than calling someone a "tall cnut" or a "blonde-haired cnut". In fact, the inference by people that using the word "black" as an adjective is racist is probably the most racist thing of all.

    Either way though I despise Terry, so throw the book at the racist thug!
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    Tall people and blonde people aren't races so are per definition not able to be targeted with racism per se.

    Oh, and neither are scousers, so you ain't a racist if you call someone a scouse cnut.
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    I follow some of the journos, get a heads up as soon as they put up new articles, some United journos(put up pics, interviews, reminders for things on MUTV) and CNN/BBC/Al Jazeera along with some american sports journos, Bill Simmons and a few others.

    This was retweeted to me, but yes, it is mostly rubbish.
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    Does Terry have previous when it comes to racism claims? Or Xenophibia? I can't remember but something's in the back of my head. Could well be wrong.
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    After research it appears he doesn't, but has abused some Americans about 9/11.
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    Erm what?
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    ^ post 9/11...he was drunk with some other Chelsea players, saw some American tourists and said/did a few not so nice things...

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    I'm sure there is, I remember an allegation made a while back, there was definitely some kind of claim made.
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    Ledley King, right?
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    That's the one, almost five years ago.
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    Oh right. Good one memory.
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    He and a few other Chelsea players were in a hotel bar (our old train ground was close to heathrow airport) being drunk and loud on September11th 2001. They were asked to keep the noise down by some Americans who were (understandably) not in the mood for drunken idiots. The Americans were pretty much told to feck off.

    I was told this by a good friend of one of the players there, nothingabout 9 11 was mentioned by the players. Might be bollocks but thats my understanding.
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    I would be inclined to believe that. The 9/11 part being a nice bit of spin for the gutter press.
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    He was sent off against Spurs for an off the ball incident. The rumours are/were that the ref had heard Terry call King a "lippy black monkey".
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    If he did, it would have become known to the press. It was probably something nasty but not racist.There were plenty of players around during that exchange, there's no chance it would remain a secret and even if CFC players wouldn't tell on Terry, Spurs players would certainly back King.Some twat simply started a rumor and plenty of twats followed suit.

    Does anyone really believe in this day and age something like this could have been hushed up? Especially in England where tabloids would be all over it in a second?
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    Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football

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    I think the press big up one story and wait for the next and then big that up and so on so forth. To be honest, I don't think they give a shit. Anything to sell a rag.
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    Anyone got a decent video of that 2006 sending off, I think that was the game where Lennon scored the winner with his left foot but funnily enough I can't remember this incident at all. Apparently all the black Tottenham players were angry, I'd like video footage to confirm this but the videos on YouTube are ones from the crowd where you can't really make anything out.

    EDIT:The BBC has it down as an altercation with Chimbonda(racists)
    BBC SPORT | Football | Premiership | Tottenham 2-1 Chelsea
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    There were only four white players in the Spurs lineup on that day. Spurs players may have been unhappy but the fact that they were black was probably a coincidence.
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    anti, you know nothing about it just like the rest of us... your interpretations carry just as much weight as anyone elses in here. I'm of the mind that something went on and was brushed under the carpet, similar to what will happen now....

    Edit: I'm sure you'd be able to find a thread on it somewhere....
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's

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    Why on earth would the players or media cover it up? It's a massive story "England captain racially abuses teamate" that would sell papers. The only reason they would have to not report it is a) they are saving the story for a slow news week or b) it didn't happen.
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    afrocentricity Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    As I said I don't know what happened, and you talking about players or media means nothing, it's entirely possible that the clubs and those players present chose to keep it quiet. If you disagree then you've been living in a bubble the last 10 years...
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's

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    Bournemouth actually, not a bubble.

    Why do you keep putting "..." at the end of your sentances?
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    Bournemouth is a bubble......................................
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    If you haven't been living in a bubble for the last ten years, you'd know.
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    Not looking good for him.

    I don't know how Ollie Holt will get over this if proven true. :(
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    IF all these claims are proven to be true, then what'll be the ramifications?

    I'm guessing he'll never play for England, but what'll Chelsea do?
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    His England career will be toast.

    Chelsea will stand by him.
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    Smart move.
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    And they'll sign Suarez too and pretty soon the Chav's dressing room will resemble a BNP convention.

    I wonder what Chelsea's black players make of all this? I can't see the likes of Drogba or Anelka wanting to be around an out-and-out racist.
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    I'm pretty sure "black" covers a few different races, but I don't really understand getting offended by someone using the politically correct name for your ethnic group. Would it be sexist to call someone a "female cnut", or just offensive? Likewise ageist to call someone an "old cnut"? I certainly wouldn't be insulted by the "white" part of someone calling me a white "cnut".
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    Why would it be there if it's not meant to be insulting?

    Unless you're suggesting it's normal to drop innocuous adjectives in the middle of a tirade
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    As I said before I think it's comparable to "old cnut". Maybe it is supposed to be offensive but why it actually is perceived that way I have no idea.
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    Old people weren't systematically rounded up and enslaved as a group, for one.

    I would expect to get my ass kicked if I went into a bar in El Paso and called someone a 'mexican cnut'. Surely I don't have to explain why.

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