Tevez's on again, off again, on again, "I hate Manchester - sob sob", transfer saga

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    I'm always right Banned

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    Carlos Tevez fined £800k – but he’ll sue Mancini | The Sun |Sport|Football

    Well, considering they have a right to fine him for gross-misconduct, I'd say they also have a right to carry on fining him for persistent gross-misconduct.

    Reading Daily Mirror articles doesn't make you bright Lance. :smirk:
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    No, if my employer overlooks a breach of contract and then 6 months down the line I sue them for their treatment of me, they cannot say "we only did that because you breached contract back in May".

    Obviously!
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    And reading Sun articles does? In that case:

    Carlos Tevez still getting paid | The Sun |Sport|Football
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    That'sHernandez Ominously close to getting banned

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    £47m was always more than he's worth but I agree with how they're approaching it, I can understand that they want to make as much back from the wasted 200-300k a week he's on. Tevez has made his bed and he deserves to lie in it, no easy exits.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    They haven't "overlooked" it, you goon.
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    Nope, my point exactly. :smirk:

    And I never denied that he's getting paid:

    I just believe he'll be getting fined most, if not all of that back, because City have a right to fine players for misconduct.
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    Tevez can only get fined if he refuses to train/play i.e. perform his duties as per his employment contract.

    In that case, if I was City, I'd throw him in the reserves (full well knowing his ego will be too big to handle that).
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    So "goon", if they have't overlooked it then what are they doing?

    • Paying him his wages according to you.


    • Haven't fired him either.


    If that isn't overlooking it, I don't know what is.


    I think someone needs to check back in the fountain.
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    Correct!
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    You said he'll be getting fined his wages back each week. So how the feck is he getting paid? You are also basing it on absolutely nothing, but that is par for the course with you.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    As I have said repeatedly, they will sue him when he leaves. Pay attention.
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    He's getting paid because employment law as you pointed out (via the Daily Mail), ensures this. But yeah, I'm pretty certain City will be fining him at present, or as you say above, will fine him/sue those wages back once he leaves.
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    Roberto Mancini says Bridge should go as Milan seek Tevez deal | Football | The Guardian
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    You said you are pretty certain that he is being fined at present. It certainly doesn't look like it.
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    Commadus Banned

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    But he is refusing to come to manchester. Cannot they pay him and then say he is breach of contract?
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    City are contractually obliged to pay Tevez £250k which they are doing.

    But isn't Tevez obliged to provide his time in return? If he is not then isn't this a clear breach of contract?

    I assume City do not want to sack tevez because they would have to give him his registraction and lose out on a transfer fee. But can't they fight a case in court and sue Tevez for loss of this transfer fee?
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    Yep, they should be able to - unless of course Shekhk Mansour is a turd and they gave Tevez permission to feck off until a suitable buyer is found for him.

    i.e. they'd rather pay that poisoned chalice to stay away from the rest of the squad before he infects anyone else.
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    Probably. They would also win. That's when the problems start, though. Chelski did just that when they sacked Mutu. They won the case some years back, but still haven't received a penny, as far as I know.
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    From what I can see it's pretty straightforward. City don't want to do anything that will prolong their relationship with Tevez, particularly if he decides to sue them. They'll still have the right to sue him for the money when he leaves, though I imagine they won't want to do that.
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    I'm pretty certain Tevez will pay those wages back, simples. Whether or not that is happening right now, or will happen, it really is a moot point.

    And it "doesn't look like" anything, a line quoted from the Guardian mean nish push.

    One thing I'm also sure of is that City don't want that cancer back.
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    It means considerably more than anything you have come out with so far.
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    No it doesn't, because I've already said about 3 or 4 times now, that I think he's getting paid. The Guardian back that. :boring:
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    Commadus Banned

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    So it would be a "moral victory" but getting not much back.

    Has Tevez put in a transfer request? If not then will he receive a loyalty bonus?

    If anything comes out of this saga it shows just how powerless clubs have become when they deal with big players.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    Yes, except Shitty are taking it all back in fines. What was your source on that one, by the way?
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    He has put in a couple during his time there, I think.
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    No source, just good business.
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    He has definitely put at least 1 in.
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    No shit. I am thinking about suing you for wasting the last 90 minutes of my life.
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    The only thing you taught me is to ignore you in future. You are eating into my lunchtime here. And I'm hungry.
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    But if he has wothdrawn them then he still gets his bonus?

    Ie he puts in 5 requests and they are either turned down or withdrawn and then the club sells him when no request is valiud - he still gets his bonus?

    Also can a player be fined indefintely? Or is it likely the club will sue him after he leaves? I assume the former is more agreeable than the latter where there are added costs and uncertain outcome?
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    We all know that's not going to happen, it'd be one less person to abuse on the internet.;)
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    Fair play to newb Lankyred for this one, should interest you Lance:

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    Clear your pm's Lance, I want your reply. :smirk:
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    I can't access The Times website. And also, it means "nish push", remember?
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    Correct, glad you finally agree. That 90 mins was now worth it.

    I'll now accept your apology for the below. :smirk:

    As I said, reading the Daily Fail doesn't make you bright. Another valuable lesson for today.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    I don't agree. With anything you have to say out of general principle.
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    I cant access the times report but it would seem the sensible thing to do - pay him and then fine him. Now are the fines outstanding or are they deducted at source?
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    This Tevez saga is the most tedious in the world.

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