The beginning of the end... (the original board vetoed Mourinho's transfer wish list thread)

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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Well the media have been briefed, we didn't sign a CB because those above Mourinho didn't like his preferred list of targets, this'll surely be the beginning of the end because we know Jose won't take that lying down and when he gets in a fight with those above him we know it'll only end one way

    Everyone feared the third season melt down, I was sure it wouldn't happen as long as the club backed him in the transfer window, they haven't....
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    Baxter Full Member

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    Don’t know what thread this is worth putting in, so move if necessary.




    Taylor is quite reliable, so what do people think of this?
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    MAME DIOUF 32 Full Member

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    Hope so. I'd be equally uneasy about handing more money to a manager who's been allowed to spend £65 million on centre backs he doesn't rate and sign the most expensive player in the world at the time and the player on the highest wages in the country without a clear idea of how to play either.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Dr. StrangeHate New Member

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    The board blindly following the previous managers wishes is what got us into this mess with having so many undesirable players at the club. It is good that the board aren't going for lesser players. We should pay top dollar only for the best.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Just check out the hundreds (exaggerating) of tweets in the twitter thread that's just landed
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    TheReligion Abusive

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    Agreed
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    Snowjoe Enjoys hatching eggs for people Staff

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    At this point I want Jose to go just so everyone will shut up about him
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    lex talionis Full Member

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    It's too early to reach for the panic button. A side arguably worse on paper than us, Leicester City, won the league a few seasons ago. We're not the favorite to win the league this season but we have every reason to believe we'll be in the hunt. And if fortune really does favor the brave, and if we're brave, we might just get there.

    But no, we do not begin the season with the strongest squad. Believe in the club you love.
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    Infra-red Full Member

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    People with no background in or knowledge of football making the footballing decisions at the club. Herein lies the problem.
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    Castia Full Member

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    You can see the meltdown coming a mile away, this season is going to be rough.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Whilst that's true would you not agree that Jose has targeted a higher calibre of player since he's been here? Pogba, Zlatan, Sanchez? Ok Bailly hasn't hit the heights but that's been more due to injuries than performances, Mhkitaryan was promptly moved on but probably due to necessity to get Sanchez

    The board surely know Jose is not Moyes, he's not LVG, he's better than both and we're unlikely to do better if we force him out
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    piratefox New Member

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    So Woody is basically director of football also then?
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    MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits

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    From their different perspectives, both Woodward (long term value) and Mourinho (short term success) are right about transfer strategy and targets. The clash is inevitable.

    I don't think it was wise for Woodward to brief all the papers so transparently though... that's only gonna piss Jose off, especially when he was restrained in the press conference today.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    The only interesting sentence I took from that was "United did have significant money available for summer signings". I don't buy that at all. Jose wanted more players and the club is now briefing on why we did not sign one defender.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Found a piece in the Guardian. Mindblowing stuff altogether.

    THEN WHY DID YOU HIRE THE MISERABLE TWAT, YOU GOGGLE EYED DIPSHIT?!?

    *and breath*

    Obviously hope it’s all paper talk but why in the hell is Woodward even allowed an opinion on who to sign? Or are there other, actual football people, in the mix here? Sir Bob?!
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    Devil may care Full Member Verified Moaner

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    The message is what I figured it would be, the club want long term for big money, and Jose wants players with a short amount of time left on the clock for immediate gratification, it's like the Martial situation, he wants out and Mourinho wants rid but the club aren't selling him as they see him as a long term investment, most likely beyond a manager whose ideals are clearly juxtaposed to the clubs, the crazy thing is that everyone knows what Mourinho is like so why did they hire him? Oh well, buckle up, hopefully we'll get a new manager more suited to United for Christmas.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager

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    Can people just bore off with these apocalyptic threads. Honestly it is getting pathetic now. Do you people not have girlfriends to release your tention on.
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    thegregster Harbinger of new information

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    They won't back the next manager either. The board are full of shit.

    Shaw Jones Young Smalling Herrera Mata etc all are free agents next season.

    Good luck getting the funds to replace them.
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    Lyng New Member

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    Yeah this is the main issue. It doesnt matter if we have Pep, Klopp or whoever as long as the Glazers and Woodward run the ship.
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    Agree with every bit of it. Having said that, I have no idea why did Ed sanction Lindeloff last year or any other CB who could have been available for 100m.

    Using our scouting network could be a good start.
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    Unless we have another manager lined up if Jose walks? I think he needs to do a little better with what he’s got now at this stage. He’s been backed more than any other manager in the league, city’s continuos project aside... their recruitment pre pep has been great ours pre Jose is part of the reason why we are where we are. The team is 2/3 of his signings on staggering wages and we still don’t look like we have a clue how to attack with any belief.... Like stop complaining and coach, innovate and motivate.
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    whatwha Sniffs Erricksson’s diarrhea

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    Good. Mourinho and the scouts should have found better targets. Sanchez should be the last short term signing we make for quite some time.
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    Zoo Full Member

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    Get a DoF to take some of the decision making away from Jose and Ed.
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    swissgenius Full Member

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    Is it you, Ed?
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    Witchking Full Member

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    Both Jose and the board are to blame for the mess we currently are in.

    A bad result tomorrow will be the beginning of the end, while a result like united dismantling fulham in the first game after the rooney and Ronaldo fracas in 2006 will suddenly bring optimism.

    I personally feel that united need to put Leicester to sword and we will have great confidence. Doubt jose would get the team to play that way which is kind of sad.
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    Zoo Full Member

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    Thread title is a bit strong. Mourinho looks like he is ready to get on with the actual football now.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Agreed. Let's see who we get after him and how in love with his playing style will those people be.
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    Sparky Rhiwabon Full Member

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    Yep, I can’t see Mourinho lasting this season out if the club has refused to buy the players he asked for.
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    Rozay Not good at posting fixture lists

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    On the whole, I support this approach. We want a RW, Hose was given money to buy one in his first window, whom he then sold in his third. He wants a centre half, he was given money to buy one two years in a row.

    The only question is whether the board see Jose as the right fit for this type of approach. A younger more innovative manager may be a better fit for the developmental approach they are trying to take.
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    I don't think Pep and Klopp want to sign 29 year olds for 60m
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Thing is if the board are wanting to keep the likes of Shaw and Martial at the club because of their age then someone should probably tell them 1 can walk for nothing next summer while the other can walk for nothing the year after that
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    Bastian Full Member

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    It would be strange if Ed was a masked poster on Redcafe criticising himself and the board while partly defending Mourinho.
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    Minimalist Full Member

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    Wouldn't surprise me if it's true. Could understand them being cautious with Mourinho at this stage of his reign.

    That said, a more assertive board would just sack the manager if they were having doubts.
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    Baxter Full Member

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    I agree with not signing players that might be considered too costly for their profile, however are we going to get to a point of back him or sack him?

    The only way this ends is trouble.
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    Dumbat12 obviously doesn't know moses

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    What are we, Southampton? Jesus Christ.
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    ManUArfa Full Member

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    Ironically due to short-termism
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    Dont know why we hired him in the first place. It is known he goes for the mature players and short fixes
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Wait till he reads the morning papers...
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    Trophy Room Full Member

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    Don't know how accurate any of that is but I completeley agree with... woodward!!