The Champions League needs an overhaul

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    Peanut Butter Full Member

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    It's a boring and tired concept now.

    It's all a bit...meh.

    Someone change the damn thing. No one cares about the group stages anymore.
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    Starkie_1 Full Member

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    Too many no mark clubs, who will be lucky to get a few draws. The majority of the elite teams are resting players and then you have a scattering of good clubs who'll do well by beating each other or the lower level clubs.

    No idea how you'd make it more entertaining mind you? They had two group stages back in the early 2000's but even that felt more entertaining
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    Red Star One Full Member

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    I think it's fair and exciting and I do care about the group stages. Always a chance to see some teams I'd never see playing, good money + exposure to smaller teams from less relevant leagues, lots of fun games and there always are overachieving, weak on paper, teams as well as favourites failing spectacularly. I enjoy group stage and it only gets better afterwards
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    Mciahel Goodman Worst Werewolf Player of All Times

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    It's gone through some experimentation. I remember the double group stages and the silver goals.
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    R'hllor Full Member

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    We should care, we aint better for anything else at the moment, crowd doesnt even deserve that.
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    JB08 Searches for nude pics of Marcos Rojo

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    Personally I don't have a problem with it. The only slight issue is the repetitive final 4 - the usual Real Madrid, Atletico, Juventus, Barcelona, PSG. Hopefully some English teams can push into it in the coming seasons.
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    sun_tzu The Art of Bore

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    Say 12 teams mid week home away and a neutral fixture (Dubai Qatar NYC bejing etc)
    No UEFA control no ffp and fek tons o cash
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Unseeded group stages. Sure some minnows will reach the knockouts but imagine the groups of death :drool:
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    groovyalbert Full Member

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    The Laissez Faire Affair
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    Cal? I always Loyalty CR7

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    Why would you want that? :confused:

    Anyway, do away with those minnow champions and bring in the better sides.
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    VBI Full Member

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    Unseeded groups, I agree with that suggestion. The way it is now, basically a top handful of clubs will just keep hoovering up money by getting easy draws, and most clubs will be happy just to be in the thing. The gap has already widened so that lots of ex European champions are now among the clubs basically lining up to be murdered by the top 8-10 clubs.
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    Pavl3n Full Member

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    Me and my mates get together to watch it and we find it quite entertaining.
    It's much better than watching 5he likes of Stoke, Newcastle or West Ham.
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    Another "let's punish smaller clubs" thread?
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    sun_tzu The Art of Bore

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    Technically the ker-feking-ching laissez fair affair
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Because it would be carnage. Fair enough we could be on the rough end of a draw but watching big European teams and our English rivals scrapping for their lives in a brutal group would be fun.
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    Tiber Full Member

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    The biggest problem with the champions league is the existance of BT sport....and I get it for free
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    Wiltord02 Full Member

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    Merge the Europa League and Champions league into one huge straight knockout tournament.
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    Peyroteo ahahahahah feck off dad!

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    It's so good. Easily the best days of football, I think I actually prefer the group stages to the knockouts.

    The draw has changed and now there's a bigger possiblity of bigger clubs playing eachother. The current groups are great too, even the groups who have 2 clear favourites will have big matches to see who comes first or who goes to the Europa League.
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    drdoityourself Full Member

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    The last 32 should be a seeded two legged knockout. The last 16 would be drawn into 4 unseeded groups of four.
    That would make almost every group game an exiting affair.
    It really favors the big clubs though. Would make it almost impossible for smaller football clubs making it into the groups.
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    Mciahel Goodman Worst Werewolf Player of All Times

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    Expand the tournament by 12 or so teams and go straight knockout (two legged ties).
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    Eddy_JukeZ Full Member

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    Personally think it's fine.
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    Scorpy Absolutely crapping it and loving it!

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    Don't have a problem with it.
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    Bring back the old format fo qualifying, get rid of pointless chaff like qarabag or maribor, increase the spots for the top 5 leagues, halve the number of groups and have only winners from each go to the SF, cut out domestic cups and force top leagues to shrink to 16-18 teams, add extra qualifying round for everyone before the group stages(so you get 4 groups of 4 instead of 8 and all the chaff is either eliminated early and quickly or got there by beating a better team), move back to the old two groups format...
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    AkaAkuma Full Member

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    I don't think theres much room to change things greatly and would guess the dissatisfaction may be related to getting older? Im sure teenagers enjoy it as much as I used to do.

    One thing could be to make the group stage a single legged fair. Which would give teams less margin for error and make games more competitive. An issue with this would be a need to replace 3 lost games.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    I don't find any problem with it. The group stage is always supposed to be like that in any competition for clubs or international teams. You can't say you're enjoying the World Cup group stage for example. Maybe as a fans we don't like seeing some weak teams but playing in CL games for the fans of these weak teams means a lot.

    The only problem is the lack of competition due to Spain dominating it recently but that's the problem of the non-Spanish clubs, not the competition itself.
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    Halftrack Full Member

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    Feck that. Those minnow champions qualified, the apparent better sides didn't.
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    I used to always look forward to midweek champions league games and they used to be the highlight of the month of football. I now definitely prefer and look forward to premier league games. It's a strange feeling.
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    Steve Bruce Full Member

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    That's a good idea. Lets exclude more legitimate champions to include more also rans in bigger leagues in the "Champions" league.

    The tournament being called what it is, is already fascicle without making it an even bigger farce.
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    tomaldinho1 Full Member

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    Don't have an issue with it, I can't think of a way you could improve it by kicking out the weaker teams - there will always be stronger and weaker teams.

    We all know Qarabag will never win the CL but think of it from their fan's perspectives, it must be glorious just to see some of the PL stars in their country.
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    RedDevilCanuck Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin

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    Fine the way it is.

    Yes there are minnows but if you're shit (like we have been) you won't get results.

    Going away to Switzerland, Russia and Turkey is never easy.
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    Pat_Mustard Full Member

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    A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
    It's great as it is. Kicking out the smaller clubs would be a shite idea.
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    Offside Euro 2016 sweepstake winner

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    I'd say it needs a little freshen up but it's not 'meh'. It's the best competition going still.

    The last 16 thing works really well. When they had 2 groups and a straight to the 1/4 final it was far too long. When they had only the top team qualify from the group and straight to the 1/4 final (And best runner-up like us in 99) it wasn't big enough. It probably is just about right now. A freshen up would be nice but where do you do it?
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    adexkola American Arse

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    Kick out non-champions.
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    Sparky_Hughes Donkey Buggering Tyrant who cheats at Monopoly

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    Only way this should happen is if they finally drop all pretence at it being a champions league and rename it rich clubs and associated friends money league
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    Sayros Full Member

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    I'm very happy with the Champion's league as is, and TV ratings would suggest those who aren't to be in the minority.
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    El Zoido Full Member

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    I think it's been fairly boring until after Christmas for a while now. That may just be part of my general apathy towards many aspects of the game today though.
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    Laurentiu amt New Member

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    No mark clubs will always grow after playing in the UCL and help sustain football in the future. The UCL is not only about feking us, barcelona, RM or only for the feking football.

    Those 10 mil teams get from qualifying to the groups mean a lot for some clubs and might help them rise. Remember that United were beaten by CFR Cluj 1-0 for example, and not by playing useless football.
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    Theafonis In love with @Eboue

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    A straight up knockout competition of 32 teams similar to March Madness would be cool
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    They should hold a second qualifying round/pre group stage for the weaker leagues and reduce the number of groups, and also lop off one or two CL spots from all the big leagues.
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    There is 12 matchdays in the group stage. Six matchdays for your own team - and 6 in which you zap through the eight other matches or can look if one of the other matches interests you in particular. What is wrong with that? It is a whole year - the real excitement should be at the end of it, or?

    I am not keen on Maribor - Moscow tomorrow or on City in Rotterdam but Leipzig - Monaco, Tottenham - Dortmund and Liverpool - Sevilla sound interesting.