Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Sara125, Mar 15, 2019.
Eddie and Keela are spot on. Jail them ASAP.
It was indeed.
Don't think the dogs were wrong necessarily and Edie was pretty certain about it. But clearly there was lots of people staying in that apartment prior to the McCanns.
I will happily accept that there are many things we will never know about this case.
However, anyone who thinks the McCanns were driving around with their daughter's dead body in the boot of their car a month after they had reported her missing is a straight up moron.
Next step being the difference between murder and accidental death which he literally flits between in the same post. I'm done.
Occam's Razor - Michael Jackson was a roboplegic wrong cock.
Just read a few posts and to give you an idea of how difficult it is to isolate DNA/fingerprint evidence. I was robbed a while back and I called the police to look over the house. This was a small robbery and nothing serious but I obviously reported it to police and told friends and family. Within a few minutes I had about 6 visitors to my house all wishing to see how I was and they arrived 2 hours before the police did. When the police arrived they took note of the incident and then sent out an officer to dust for prints etc later that day. The result was that about 10 people had visited my private residence in about 4 hours. Needless to say when we got the fingerprint results back they were inconclusive because I we hadnt preserved the scene. Also there were so many unknown finger prints that we could never assess which ones could be the robbers.
Mine was a very low priority case but from watching the McCann case the GNR arrived after 3 hours. This is a local police force and didnt have the experience to preserve the scene of a potential kidnapping. This was also not a private residence so the amount of prints and DNA material here would make it nigh on impossible to prove or disprove anything. I think shows like CSI and SVU have made people think that it's dead easy to identify criminals by DNA evidence but actually it's really difficult and most cases are weighed by probability due to peoples movements and stories. I think the McCann's have gone through enough pain with losing a daughter and trial by media.
Have you heard the term "You have the right to remain silent"?
Its not "You have the right to remain silent but if you do so this is an admission of guilt."
Lovely to log into the cafe this morning with a endless list of notifications
I've no doubt their lawyer advised that.
How is there zero to gain from it? She was questioned in the weeks after her disappearance? Should they not of been questioned at all? If my own child went missing I'd be fully complicit with law enforcement and aiding them in their investigation... IF I had nothing to hide.
Again, family members / loved ones are invariably guilty in cases of murder / manslaughter and kidnappings.
Feel free to waaay back before I started being absolutely slaughtered by snow flakes on here... I always contested it was manslaughter. It's amazing the amount of times that things are created on here than never exist.
I'm bored repeating myself but I'll say it again... Accidental death = Manslaughter. They possibly gave her calpol and she took an allergic reaction. It's really, really not that difficult to understand and nor that crazy a theory to think that actually could of happened.
Invariably? No they're not.
At this point you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
For someone involved in law, maybe you should do a bit more research. It's common knowledge that a family member / loved one (close friend) will be the perpetrator.
There was zero to gain from it because she had already spent a full day answering those same exact questions. There was no new information she was going to give in response to those questions that was going to help find her daughter.
In other words the point of those questions on the police's part wasn't to help rescue/save Madeline, it was (presumably) a case-building exercise. Which is why they were advised by their lawyer not to participate.
Wait, so Dr Gerry McCann MD didn't know his own 3 yr old daughter was allergic to calpol and/or gave her an over-dose?
@Keefy18 is proper mental.
Again as I've stated it could well of been the first time they gave it to her not knowing.
How could he know if that was the case?
Sorry I forgot, he's all knowing in the world of medicine isn't he.
Lovely abusive message, how mature of you.
Anything of actual intelligent substance to add?
And your an admin? Christ!! Pathetic.
You said invariably. Unless I'm misunderstanding the word, that's just a wrong statement to make.
I'm not an admin, you just come across as a bit of a loon.
Please spend some time reading through this.
Feck me your a tad pedantic aren't you.
I'm literally being hounded by a bloody wolf pack here for expressing an opinion and trying to keep up. I've even so called admins posting abusive / insulting comments at me for expressing an opinion, sorry if I posted one word slightly out of context.
I'm the worst aren't I?
Some good questions here tbf.
I'm not sure what changes were made in their story over time. Will have to read up on that.
I think refusing to answer questions was probably done due to a lawyer's advice as mentioned earlier. That seems fair enough. I also think that becoming key suspects made them more eager to leave the country and not cooperate as much. They could have been given advice to do as such by their lawyers.
Leaving the twins in the room is really strange tbh. I mean, if I had three kids and one of them was missing from the room, I'd be really hesitant to run off and leave the other two alone, especially if I suspected kidnappers. I mean, I'd sound the alarm of course, but I wouldn't run away and leave them there by themselves. There's something unusual in that action IMO. Perhaps she didn't have any other option?
I agree the kids were given sleeping pills. I think even one of the 7 said they thought the same thing since a lot of noise was being made and that person thought it strange that the twins were still asleep through it.
Also agree that "they've taken her" is a strange statement to make. Her immediate conclusion on seeing her child missing was "abduction". Something unusual there as well. It adds to the thought that sleeping pills were used, since she was obviously certain Madeleine hadn't wandered off herself. Was she guilty of giving her kids sleeping pills? Absolutely IMO. Did she also accidentally kill her own daughter? Not so sure about that one.
Some unusual things there, but all in all I still think she was kidnapped by some pedo.
Why does paparazzi exist? Every now and then when I come across a good half hour of footage of it, it blows my mind that it happens currently. It's a soul destroying job. The people on the other end of the camera are subjected to something deeply inhuman. And it wouldn't be that hard to construct a system where they could extract more or less the same footage, of equal value to the media owners, with much less harm done to the people on either end of the camera.
It's just weird.
yes that's a good sign that your analysis of the situation is very robust
Just finished watching this.
If you got to choose between definitively finding out what happened to Madeline or United winning the Champions League. Where would you watch the final?
If you have to make a Maddy joke at least make it funny.
Based off your username you're clearly an expert when it comes to identifying mediocrity. I'll try to be better.
I think the family made a massive mistake in not appearing in this documentary. Having watched the whole thing it's pretty obvious to me that they aren't involved in any way and anyone who thinks they are is an idiot, in my opinion of course. That being said, the publicity this brings is good for the case and it's raised awareness that she may still be alive and them appearing would have made that plea to keep looking even more impactful.
Sounds like a fiction novel, but that's the kind of shit wealthy and powerful people can get away with. Reality is crazier (and more sinister) than fiction.
The fiction yer man is spewing in that twitter thread is much crazier than reality.
And it’s sinister too. When conspiracy gonks start persecuting bereaved people. Like the shit-heads who are driving Sandy Hook parents to suicide.
What's changed from their original version of events?
Only by knowing the truth we can be certain of that.
Ps. A conspiracy theory is bringing Sandy Hooks parents to suicide?? how?
Heard the theory that they were possibly advised by PR people to dismiss it, so as to be seen as nothing to do with it. The documentary as you say is very much in their favour and being 'independent' of their involvement is possibly a bonus for them in terms of combating the conspiracy theories (nobody can claim it's a creation of theirs).
More than likely this probably has to do with them lying about how many times they went back to check on their kids during the night as they didn't want to look like bad parents than anything more sinister.
Does seem like their kids were giving something to help them sleep though, but a man was seen with a kid also I believe she was kidnapped.
Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be the subject of one? The attention etc?
Internet bullying cause alot of people to commit suicide so image this.
In this documentary the Mccans got plenty of vile hate mail. It is certainly something that could drive someone to suicide.
The idea that they hid the body in 2 hours so well that it has not been found for 11 years is a bit crazy, I agree.
The idea that they somehow managed to return to Portugal, rent a new car, dig up her body and hide it again somewhere else, all while being under constant surveillance, is probably more mind boggling though.
Very, very unlikely that they had anything to do with it.
cnuts, but I wouldn't put those feckers just spewing hate and straight lies (much like nazi revisionists) in the same category with people trying to puzzle the pieces together in search of the truth of unsolved mysteries.
To be fair them changing stories about that night is not that suspicious either. It’s actually not that uncommon, I don’t think they were actually changing any major points about that evening.
There’s just no viable scenario in which they kill her that evening and manage to not have anyone find out in 11 years.
Obviously. I was just curious what was the conspiracy theory...
This is the most hilarious thing I've read on the Caf this year.
And I've spent considerable time in the Brexit thread!
What I find bizarre is that keefy is in the McCanns did it camp and MJ inoccent camp. Talking about getting your bearings wrong...
Facebook pals are always spot on didn’t you know.
He’s one of ‘those’ guys.
Your mates believe it, it must be true.
Separate names with a comma.