The Fifth Redcafe Sheep Draft

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  1. Nov 28, 2017
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    THE FIFTH REDCAFE SHEEP DRAFT

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    Sheep for you. Sheep for you. Sheep for everyone!​

    What's a sheep draft and how does it work?
    • Before every round, the mods will post new criteria. Every manager has to PM the mods their pick that meets the criteria.
    • By default, every manager will be allowed three picks (attempts) in every round to pick a player (or two if it is double-pick round). If you manage to sign the player(s) successfully in your first attempt, you will not participate in the next two attempts for that round.
    • At the end of every picking round, the mods will announce which managers successfully signed their players, but the mods will NOT announce the name of the players, so that managers who failed in that attempt would have to make their second/third attempt without the knowledge of which players have been picked
    • How does a manager get his pick? You get your pick if you were the only one who chose that player.
    • There are three ways in which your pick will be blocked:
      1 - In the same round and same attempt there were other managers who chose the same player.
      2 - The player you chose was already successfully signed by someone in the same round in the previous attempt.
      3 - Your pick doesn't match the criteria.
    • If any manager failed all three picks (attempts), they will be allocated a sheep (aka less desired player). These will be allocated by the mods. Sheep does not necessarily have to meet the criteria at a given round
    Example:
    Let's say A, B, C, D and E are playing the draft.

    I announce the criteria - Round 1 - pick a player who was a World Cup winner.

    All 5 managers PM me their picks as follows :

    Pick 1 :

    A : Pele
    B : Pele
    C : Ronaldo
    D : Maradona
    E : Matthaus

    According to the rules, A and B don't get any players and their picks are BLOCKED. C, D and E successfully sign their players. So, at the end of the deadline I will post something like this :

    Results of Round 1, Pick 1 :

    A : Fail (Pele)
    B : Fail (Pele)
    C : Pass
    D : Pass
    E : Pass

    Blocked List : Pele.

    Important : I will NOT announce the names of successfully drafted players till the end of the round. So the managers going into the second/third attempt will not be knowing which players apart from the ones that were blocked due to duplicate entries are not available.

    Now, A and B have to submit again for the same criteria as their second attempt. Let's say :

    A : Maradona
    B : Beckenbauer

    And I announce after 24 hours :

    Results Round 1, Pick 2 :

    A : Fail (player already drafted)
    B : Pass

    B gets his pick as it was not picked by another manager in the same attempt while also not being drafter earlier. A misses his pick again even though it was not picked by another manager in the same round, it was drafted by someone else earlier.

    Now, A has to go for a third and last attempt. Let's say :

    A : Beckenbauer.

    And I announce :

    Round 1, Pick 3 results :

    A : Fail (player already drafted).

    Full round results :

    A : Sheep
    B : Beckenbauer
    C : Ronaldo
    D : Maradona
    E : Matthaus

    A again fails, as B had already successfully drafted Beckenbauer which A wasn't aware of.

    So, A ends the round without any player and will be assigned a sheep.

    End of example.

    Who is playing?

    1. Edgar Allan Pillow
    2. Pat_Mustard
    3. 2mufc0
    4. mazhar13
    5. Gio
    6. Enigma
    7. Indnyc/crappy
    8. Skizzo
    9. idmanager
    10. Invictus/Ecstatic
    11. harms
    12. oneniltothearsenal/shrike
    13. P-Nut0712
    14. Tuppet
    15. Lord SInister/Charly
    16. prath92/KM

    Draft Rules
    • All-time draft.
    • Submit all picks in same convo. Remember to invite all the mods (green_smiley, antohan and Sjor Bepo).
    • The competition format will be straight knockout. Players will be judged on their prime.
    • Initial squads will be formed of 14 players.
    • Managers and any assistant(s) can vote in any game bar their own.
    • Submissions for match thread OPs should not exceed 1 post.
    • No substitution allowed during match.
    • Only 1 sheep allowed in the bench in 1st round. E.g. if you have 2 sheep, you need to field at least 1 of them.
    • Only 2 sheep allowed in the bench in QF, followed by 3 sheep in SF, and 4 sheep in Final
    • Tiebreaker is based on GK's ranking per the mods' discretion. List of ranking will not be revealed.
    Ground Rules
    • No change allowed after a pick is made.
    • Any question needs to be posted in draft thread where possible. Mods will not validate your candidate of pick.
    • Manager must provide evidence that each pick meets the given criteria. A reminder will be given for first violation. For subsequent violation, the pick will be penalized as FAIL.
    • Participants and neutral observers are reminded not to name or hint unpicked players.
      • Naming for managers = losing a turn in the next round (i.e. after two fails you get a sheep).
      • Naming by neutrals = thread-ban.
      • Hinting too obviously = three strikes. Penalty as per mentioned above.
      • Each name is a strike. Mods may prove to be shit at keeping count and may act with no proof. You've been warned.
    • Participants and neutral observers are reminded not to engage in suggesting improvements or pointing out weaknesses/imbalances/misfits on this thread. Such discussions are reserved for match thread. Perpetrators will be thread-banned.
    • Debate about picked player is allowed.
    Deadlines

    Pick 1 - 24 hours
    Pick 2 - 12 hours
    Pick 3 - 12 hours


    Reinforcements

    1) Blocked players will not be unblocked.

    2) First reinforcement round:
    • Picked from losing teams only.
    • 2 reinforcements, snake style.
    • The order of the snake is determined by lowest points accumulation with a T1 pick being 1 point, T2 pick 2 points, T3 pick 3 points, and a sheep 4 points. In the event of tied points, those with the lowest % win margin go first. If that is tied as well, the mods will decide by toss of a coin.
    • At the end of reinforcement round, all others become blocked and are out of the pool thereafter.
    3) Second reinforcement round:
    • Picked from losing teams in QFs only.
    • 1 reinforcement only.
    • Lamb style, with criteria already set in advance.
    4) Final reinforcement round:
    • Pick from the team you defeated in SF.
    • 1 reinforcement only.
    BONUS ROUND:

    There will be 1 bonus round. More details shall be revealed as time comes.
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    Criteria

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    ROUND ONE: BLOOD RELATIVE


    Double pick round.

    Pick two players who are blood relatives (not just father and son, but no in-laws). You MUST play both or bench both in the first match.

    E.g.
    Manager A - Dopey, Grumpy
    Manager B - Dopey, Sneezy

    Result

    A - FAIL
    B - FAIL

    Block list: Dopey
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    ROUND TWO: MR. HOLLYWOOD

    Pick a player that acted (or made appearance) in a movie/TV show, or that has an official music video/performance (not initiation songs)

    Punditry appearances, documentaries and commercials do not count
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    ROUND THREE: LEGEND

    Pick a footballer with a public place statue (i.e. not one in their house), football stadium or stand named after them. No training grounds. Current and official.
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    ROUND FOUR:
    DOUBLE TEAMMATES

    Double-pick round

    Pick 2 players that played together for at least 2 different clubs (clubs changing their names count as one club)

    Loans counts
    Youth team and B team do not count
    Must play at least 1 competitive match together in both clubs
    As evidence, please provide link of games that they played together at the 2 clubs

    E.g.
    Manager A - Dopey, Grumpy
    Manager B - Dopey, Sneezy

    Result

    A - FAIL
    B - FAIL

    Block list: Dopey
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    ROUND FIVE: BALD SPOTS

    Pick a player with bald spots during his time as professional football player

    Please provide clear-cut photographic evidence. Draft mods have the rights to reject debatable evidence

    Excluding completely bald or shaved heads
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    ROUND SIX: COPA LIBERTADORES


    Double-pick round

    Pick two players that featured for opposing sides during a Copa Libertadores semifinal game

    If one player is blocked but the other player is successful, you must repick from the same game and team as the blocked player

    If both players are blocked, you can pick a new game

    For evidence, please provide link of match report (e.g. http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/copalib.html)
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    ROUND SEVEN: TOUCHED BY GOD

    Pick a player that was physically in contact of any kind (including, but not limited to, tackle, handshake, hug, etc.) with this GOD (can be either way or both ways).

    The venue where physical contact occurred can be anywhere (on the pitch, training ground, public places, etc.)

    For evidence of criteria, please provide at least one of the following:

    1) Actual, genuine photo (e.g. no photoshopped photos)
    2) Actual, genuine video. Specify start time and end time of the section of the video that shows the physical contact (max 10 seconds from start till end). No parody videos.

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    Nicklas Bendtner aka Lord Bendtner

    Disclaimer: Nicklas Bendtner is now added to the block list. Hence, the GOD can no longer be picked by managers anymore and cannot be judged to have touched himself.

    Feel free to mention his name
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    ROUND EIGHT: WANNABES

    Pick a player that has not won any international or continental tournament with club or country

    For evidence, please provide minimum the player's wiki for draft mods to check. Any other supplementary evidence is more than welcomed

    WARNING: If draft mods find that the player does not meet criteria but is overlooked on wiki, the pick will still FAIL
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    ROUND NINE: THE OTHER HALF

    Pick a married or divorced player

    As acceptance of criteria:
    1) Please provide name of picked player and name of his wife/ex-wife. Evidence of marital link must be provided (any online mention will do)

    2) Please submit an appropriate photo as proof of the beauty of the other half. In order for the pick to qualify, you must gain the approval of all three draft mods. You are allowed to provide further evidence that the wife is hot. If it's never going to happen you will be clearly told to "Move On".

    This is meant to be a fun round. However, please do not post anything that may get you in trouble. It is football forum after all.
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    ROUND TEN: NO MATES


    Pick a player who has never been in the same team - for club or country - with any of the players picked by the managers either side of you.

    Sheep not included, since they are assigned by draft mods.

    Hence,

    EAP -> prath/KM and Pat
    Pat -> EAP and 2mufc0
    2mufc0 -> Pat and mazhar
    ....
    ....
    prath/KM -> Lord SInister/Charly and EAP


    Please provide as much evidence as possible of meeting criteria.

    Player's wiki is the minimum required but if there's an obvious "check" that you made please let us know.

    E.g. when people started picking Voronin the immediate check was whether he had been in the Soviet 1960 Euro squad. It is likely there will be cases you double check possible NT overlaps in detail, spare us the hassle (your explicit say so is fine, just like with income taxes, don't get caught telling porkies).
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    ROUND ELEVEN:
    OUTLANDER

    Pick a player that played in the EPL (season 1992-93 and onwards), but never played in their country of birth

    "Played" refers to club football including youth levels
    "Country" defined as the territory recognized as a country by the UN (i.e. UK not Scotland, Croatia/Serbia/etc same as Yugoslavia)

    For evidence, please provide:
    1) Player's wiki page; and
    2) Link to an EPL game the player played in (starting 11 or coming on from bench)
    BONUS ROUND

    Solve the puzzles to turn a sheep into a gorgeous prince.
    • You have 24 hours to guess all the puzzles that will be posted after the round finishes or at 4PM BST (whichever happens first).
    • Each correct answer is a goal.
    • By the end of the 24 hours whoever has more goals wins.
    • In the event of a tie, there will be a new puzzle published on the thread along with the announcement of results. The winner will be determined by sudden death.
    The winner can replace a player in their squad from a select group to be disclosed. Player may be a sheep or any other player except the blood tied ones from the first round.
    Please provide rationale behind your guesses.

    Warning:
    we won't be limiting the number of guesses, but if you are just randomly throwing up names the mods may pay attention to your convo sparingly

    Puzzle 1: Whose thighs are these?


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    Puzzle 2: What's going on here? Be very specific.

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    Puzzle 3: What do Franz Beckenbauer, Carlos Salvador Bilardo and Francisco Maturana have in common which Sir Alex Ferguson and Marcello Lippi don't?

    Puzzle 4: Guess the player

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    Puzzle 5: Guess the club

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    Squad list

    1. Edgar Allan Pillow - (1) D. Maradona (2) D. Sinagra (3) P. Nedved (4) D. Beckham (5) C. Ronaldo (6) R. van Nistelrooy (7) R. Matosas (8) Roberto Sosa (9) A. Ruben Cabrera (10) P. Evra (11) A. Shesternyov (12) T. Cleverley (13) M. Amoros (14) F. Muamba

    2. Pat_Mustard - (1) R. da Silva (2) F. da Silva (3) P. Breitner (4) W. van Hanegem (5) M. Sammer (6) R. Sosa (7) J. Popluhar (8) M. Kempes (9) D. Bertoni (10) E. van der Sar (11) P. McGrath (12) S. Gerrard (13) L. Riva (14) C. Regis

    3. 2mufc0 - (1) J. Charlton (2) B. Charlton (3) F. Baresi (4) Eusebio (5) G. Buffon (6) F. Cannavaro (7) Gerson (8) L. Junior (9) R. Otelo (10) L. Modric (11) A. Shearer (12) D. Simeone (13) D. Carvajal (14) N. Onuoha

    4. mazhar13 - (1) M. Sanchís Martínez (2) M. Sanchis (3) van Himst (4) D. Edwards (5) S. Kocsis (6) Z. Czibor (7) K. Hamrin (8) M. Ramos (9) L. Mazurkiewicz (10) S. Kjaer (11) R. Dzodzuashvili (12) D. de Rossi (13) A. Demyanenko (14) Y. Bolasie

    5. Gio - (1) M. Laudrup (2) B. Laudrup (3) G. Souness (4) B. Vogts (5) H. Stoichkov (6) F. Couto (7) M. Chamakh (8) A. Spencer (9) A. Ancheta (10) R. Carlos (11) A. Goram (12) M. Belodedici (13) R. Keane (14) R. Gough

    6. Enigma - (1) F. Rijkaard (2) H. Rijkaard (3) J. Cruyff (4) R. Krol (5) P. Lahm (6) M. Gómez (7) P. Cygan (8) W. Ortiz (9) C. Mozer (10) A. Vidal (11) M. Ballack (12) J. Cesar (13) D. Godin (14) S. Finnan

    7. Indnyc/crappy - (1) C. Maldini (2) P. Maldini (3) M. Platini (4) J. Neeskens (5) O. Sivori (6) F. Emoli (7) N. Stiles (8) C. Tevez (9) J. Mascherano (10) R. Ferdinand (11) R. Lewandowski (12) O. Kahn (13) A. Cabrini (14) L. Nani

    8. Skizzo - (1) D. Da Guia (2) A. Da Guia (3) T. Henry (4) J. Johnstone (5) Neymar (6) D. Alves (7) A. Conte (8) J. Gallardo (9) T. González (10) K. Gibbs (11) S. Campbell (12) E. Petit (13) N. Southall (14) W. Zaha

    9. idmanager - (1) J. Charles (2) M. Charles (3) Garrincha (4) D. Dzajic (5) F. Redondo (6) C. Seedorf (7) U. Stielike (8) S. Marzolini (9) A. Carrizo (10). P. Scholes (11) C. Davis (12) A. Costacurta (13) G. Scirea (14) J. Bosingwa

    10. Invictus/Ecstatic - (1) L. Öztunalı (2) U. Seeler (3) Zico (4) Jairzinho (5) Ronaldinho (6) G. Zambrotta (7) W. Schulz (8) R. Perfumo (9) H. Chumpitaz (10) A. Pirlo (11) R. Dasayev (12) K-H Rummenigge (13) O. Varela (14) Lauren

    11. harms - (1) F. Gento (2) F. Llorente Gento (3) F. Beckenbauer (4) G. Netzer (5) B. Zebec (6) V. Beara (7) E. Streltsov (8) J. Olguin (9) O. Ruggeri (10) M. van Bommel (11) P. Elkjaer (12) M. Overmars (13) T. Finney (14) A. Song

    12. onenil/shrike - (1) L. Thuram (2) M. Thuram (3) T. Bramble (4) J. Bozsik (5) T. Ben Haim (6) K. Dyer (7) Pirri (8) J. Sanfilippo (9) J. Abbadie (10) J. Terry (11) J. Barnes (12) Kaka (13) J. Nassazi (14) G. Kiraly

    13. P-Nut0712 - (1) K. Boateng (2) J. Boateng (3) L. Ronaldo (4) N. Santos (5) J. Gronkjaer (6) M. Melchiot (7) A. Iniesta (8) F. Arce (9) Gilmar Estevam (10) N. Vidic (11) E. Ocwirk (12) C. Vieri (13) L. Yashin (14) V. Moses

    14. Tuppet - (1) G. Nordahl (2) K. Nordahl (3) F. Puskas (4) J. Masopust (5) J. Botelho (6) D. Santos (7) R. Giggs (8) T. Cubillas (9) R. Fernández (10) M. Olsen (11) B. Wright (12) B. Lizarazu (13) L. Monti (14) Ali Dia

    15. Lord SInister/Charly - (1) M. Alonso Imaz (2) M. Alonso (3) B. Moore (4) G. Batistuta (5) J. Santamaría (6) H. Rial (7) G. Lato (8) P. Rocha (9) Tostão (10) C. Puyol (11) N. Kanté (12) Marcelo (13) I. Netto (14) R. Kingson

    16. prath92/KM - (1) Rai (2) Socrates (3) D. Law (4) G. Banks (5) D. Irwin (6) P. Ince (7) P. Vierchowod (8) J. Riquelme (9) T. Silva (10) E. Frimpong (11) L. Bonucci (12) E. Abidal (13) M. Coluna (14) A. Taarabt


    BLOCKED LIST:
    José Leandro Andrade, Víctor Rodríguez Andrade, Valentino Mazzola, Sandro Mazzola, Lionel Messi, Pele, Sergio Busquets, Carles Busquets, Bernd Förster, Karl-Heinz Förster, Alfredo Di Stefano, George Best, Marco van Basten, Elias Figueroa, Marcel Desailly, Didier Deschamps, Romario, Adoni Zubizarreta, Ronald Koeman, Rivaldo, Lothar Matthaus, Andreas Brehme, Alessandro Nesta, Jaap Stam, Liam Brady, Marco Tardelli, Paulo Roberto Falcão, Jürgen Kohler, Stanley Matthews, Cafu, Carlos Gamarra, Zito, Juan Joya, Daniel Pasarella, Toninho Cerezo, Nestor Goncalves, Nicklas Bendtner, Javier Zanetti, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Ashley Cole, Michael Essien, Valery Voronin, Marius Tresor, Danny McGrain, Luis Figo, Xabi Alonso, Iker Casillas, Ruud Gullit, Demetrio Albertini, Gerd Muller, Giacinto Facchetti
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    1st criteria will be out after the on-going draft ends
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    P-Nut0712 fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    Quick question r.e reinforcements, wouldn’t the T1, T2 total that is lowest make it more likely that the strongest sides get to reinforce first? Understand it’s a reward for drafting well, but could cause unbalanced games.
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    Cool. In
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    On the contrary, someone could play safe and pick a not-so-obvious player, thus missing out the GOATs but gets his player in T1
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    True I suppose, just less likely to get a goat T2 than you would T1 but I’m okay with it anyways just asking the question
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    Old school reinforcement round! Also, if the bonus round consists of Anto's picture riddles I'm fecking delighted I gave my place away.
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    When creating a convo for picks, please name it after yourself, thanks!
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    Ooh, this looks like a fun draft. I look forward to it.
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    Couple of queries/suggestions...

    So if I have 3 sheeps and a perfect playing 11 (in 14 players squad), I need to bench 2 normal players and play 2 sheeps instead? :confused: Getting a sheep is a punishment in itself, why force manages to play them at expense of normal players?

    Maybe we can explore having 12hrs for all 3 rounds? I always felt 24 was too long in previous versions.
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    Aye. Maybe field 1 if 3 sheeps present.
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    Yes. So avoid getting 3 sheep :)

    Deadlines will stay and only be changed if committees think it is necessary
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    Nah. Looks like you can have only 1 sheep in bench. So you need to field 2 sheeps if you get 3 in total.
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    What's the fun in playing a sheep draft and avoiding sheep? :lol: More fun if mamangers take more risks imo. I aim to break @MJJ sheep record :lol:

    Ofc, it was just a suggestion! Happy either way.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    I concur about having a 12 hour deadline in all rounds. I know it's not a snake, but 12 hours are more than enough for anyone to log on and make a pick.

    Just my .02 on the matter.
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    Moby Dick

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    12 hours yes.

    Will moan if I miss it once.
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    Marty1968 Full Member

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    Anyone need an assistant?
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    MJJ Full Member

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    That was great :lol:
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    Indnyc Full Member

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    I am ok with 12 hour deadlines as well
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    P-Nut0712 fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    I'll be OK with 12 hour deadlines
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    prath92 Full Member

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    Yeah same
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    Šjor Bepo Full Member

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    Whats the fun of getting sheeps if people will just push them to the bench?
    From what i know, sheeps are usually played with squads of 12 players so you can move one sheep out of the way anyways. We decided to add more rounds as people enjoy the drafting process more, specially in a sheep draft + if you pick smart and get lucky you can prepare your squad for different styles of play.
    There is just no point of allowing more sheeps on the bench, price for great picks has to be big and that is impossible with 3 free rides....
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    mazhar13 Full Member

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    Hmm...isn't that a bit too much for Pick 1? Every round will last more than a day if this happens, and we can't afford to drag on drafts for too long as people will start to lose interest in them. How about we keep it 12 hours for every pick?
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    Huh, the whole point of Drafts is to field your best possible team. Why would anyone play a sheep when have a better player on bench?

    Not that I plan to have a perfect team. All out high sheep stakes game is on the cards for me :lol:
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    Indnyc Full Member

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    It’s 3 free rides but it also allows players to be more aggressive in going for the best players.. With this rule, a lot of teams may choose the safe option.
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    crappycraperson "Resident cricket authority"

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    Who needs an AM?
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    NM Full Member

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    I will enjoy spectating this draft...
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    this bluff is not working
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    Where's my royalty?
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Maybe make it just 12 picks instead of 14? No need for subs when you can't make one either way...
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    :lol: Well my normal game earned me 4 sheeps last draft. Can't really get much worse.
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    Or is it a double bluff, while we kill each other going after big names you sneak under the radar and swoop all the quality.

    damn you edgar and your mind games!