Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by charlenefan, Dec 4, 2011.
Great to hear City fans whining about dropping points.
to early to gloat, some tough fixtures are waiting for us behind enemy lines
I think City are still slightly favorites for the title But given our away form this year, I'm confident.
I disagree. I watched the last 15mins of that game and City were desperate. Toys coming out of the pram every time the ref blew against them and everything. Plus Foster had to make some good stops, 1 in particular from Silva.
WBA defenders really put their bodies on the line for it.
It's probably too much to ask for Sunderland to get a draw with them as well isn't it?
The true test if City can win the league is if they can go to midtable grounds like Newcastle, Stoke, West Brom, Everton, Villa, Fulham, Sunderland etc and win more often than they drop points. Obviously we didn't do this last season but this season I feel that the winning point total will need to be much higher. So far this season we've looked good in these sorts of games, and in a long season it might be where we edge it.
Their home record is excellent and I fear that we'll have to grab at least a point there, and we'll probably have to get 5+ points combined from trips to Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal too. Our home record is strong enough and we should win all of our remaining home games barring another refereeing travesty like the Newcastle game.
A long shot is that mid-table clubs will start to go to the COMS and NOT play with fear and get thrashed, which clubs did at the start of the season after City were on a good roll. If they drop a few unexpected points at home then it'll take the pressure off our trips away at the big 5 teams.
City still favorites for me, considering the fixtures we have left in the 2nd half of the season.
However, I think its fantastic the way we have reeled them in over the last few weeks. After the 6-1 defeat everyone in media and even some on here expected us to fall away. Yet here we are. We went back to basics, sorted the defense and now look like we've sorted both sides of the game. All while continuing to churn out wins.
Amazingly we are only 5 goals behind them considering at one point they were well out in front.
They know they are in a fight. I expect us to keep it going. We've been there and done it. We are not going to fall away or give them any gifts. Its up to them to go out and win the title. And if they do it, then fair enough they'll deserve it.
Agreed; in all honest I've expected City to run away with it this season, we've amassed a fantastic amount of points so far. United are virtually keeping the title fight going single-handedly.
Looking at the fixtures (shitload of away games against top clubs for us, shitload of home games against top clubs for them), we needed the three points at home playing the bottom team. We weren't satisfied with 1 point and we've got zero.
Advantage City, and honestly, they're big favorites. They have a big squad, not many injuries like us and the easier fixtures. The points they've lost all make sense, no surprising points dropped or shock defeats.
We must bank on them bottling it and/or us pulling off a superb run.
Anything can happen and there's still a long way to go but we've just gone ahead and transferred all the pressure on ourselves with the result against Blackburn. Having looked like running away with things, for city's lead to have been wiped away and us to suddenly he top every other time they played would have put all the pressure on them. Instead we've relieved that and made sure were the ones who are worried about not falling away too far again. Momentum is a big thing in title races and its important we don't let this result cause a big swing or anyrhing and that the next change in the gap is in our favour.
And it has to be said that the worst part is that it was a gift. It wasnt like city's defeat to chelsea where they were soundly beaten and respectfully beaten. Ours yesterday was a but of a joke to be honest. We tripped over our own feet and threw points right out of the window.
If we are to win it this year we can't afford to drop easy points. We have to attain a level of consistency where teams really have to earn points againdt us. That's the crucial but for me.
well feck u are right, but didn't expect it to come against blackburn.
City will still be the happier side this weekend, Sunderland under MON was probably a fixture they expected dropped points from. Big opportunity missed for us. Obviously though we're just grateful to be level with them after yesterday
Tuesday will be very interesting....
I wonder if they're starting to feel the pressure now. In their last 5 league matches, they've won two, lost two and drawn one. They've shown signs of feeling the heat, and thank god for it.
Whereas, yesterday was our first defeat in the league in nine matches (since the City match which was two months ago).
We won't get too many let-offs though I'd imagine so let's hope it doesn't happen again. Hopefully the scousers will get something at City on Tuesday, and fingers crossed we beat Newcastle.
I think the fact we are joint top with the injuries we have had plus the less than great performances in several games is actually quite good. If we can get most players back soon and start to play well we should be right in there all the way.
I like this whole "oh well this City team have more points at this stage than both the invincibles and Mourinho's sides"
SO DO WE YOU SPUNK BUCKETS
Hmm, no, they don't.
Arsenal 45, Chelsea 46 & 52.
So they're wrong and being pricks at the same time
Back to chasing them then
Wigan away next for them while we're at home to Bolton followed by a big day on the 22nd when they play Spurs at home and we're away to Arsenal. Squeaky bum time comes early this season....
We can thank our lucky stars they lost to Sunderland otherwise I think City would be out of sight soon. We can still do it but we need to play a hell of a lot better, get injured players back and hope City hit a bad patch. I still think it is City's league to lose this year.
To win the league we're going to have to win atleast 2 big away games at City, Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea...tough ask but if we're to stand any chance that's the postition we've put ourselves in with the Blackburn loss.
City on the other hand only have Arsenal away as a 'tough' away game. I think the leagues theres this year if I'm being honest.
3 points is nothing. It can turn around on a single weekend.
i rather have their fixture lists than ours right now.
Next 5 league fixtures:
I fancy we'll take 10 or 11 points from a possible 15 and City to take 12 or 13.
Huge chance City will be celebrating in the cameras like mad after full time somewhere in May.
We are unpredictable and suffer from too many injuries. I honestly am nervous wondering what United to expect now at the start of every new game, whether it's against rubbish or good teams.
This, in combination with the rest of the fixture list, it's going to be a big ask.
What chances on Wigan doing us a favour Monday night then....
No chance whatsoever.
No Kompany or either Toure for them dont forget and Savic looked shocking against Liverpool
May need to bring out the gods mind you
Looking at the up coming fixtures though I'd go as far as to say we need Spurs to beat City next weekend.
This next 5/6 weeks will have a massive say in the title race.
City will do well to win at Everton especially now agent Gibson is in the ranks
Wigan are always good to take points off our title rivals, and they have held Chelsea this season. Come on Wigan!
If you're relying on Spurs to win away you're in deep shit.
Could be worse we could be relying on Arsenal to win. In general.
I think there's going to be scope for good mind games with Mancini as the clock ticks down. I think he's going to struggle with the pressure, it'll be Rafa or Keaganesque.
Failing to win title now would be devastating says Adam Johnson - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
Expecting Fergie to ramp up the mind games real soon.
Just updating the above, for the record City are now 10 points better off than last season us on the other hand are 3 points better off than last season
Next set of fixtures has the potential to be just as defining as this weekends could of been, we're at home to Stoke whereas City are away to Everton a game they tend not to do well in.
As United finished nine points ahead of City last season, our improvement by three compared to theirs by ten keeps us ahead of them then. This is where the Storey table comes in handy, as it takes into consideration the level of difficulty of respective fixtures. Without doubt, City are well ahead at this stage.
I'd certainly rather be in the bitters' shoes points and fixture wise at the moment - we just have to eke out results anyway we can over the next 6 weeks , I just can't see City dropping many points at all in that period - here's hoping though..
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