The Shadow of Munich

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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    The Munich disaster’s long shadow still falls on us all, 60 years on:
    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...saster-60-years-manchester-united-anniversary
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    The Man Himself asked for a tagline change and all I got was this.

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    Nice read.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    Jazz Full Member

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    That was a sad but beautiful read. I really do hope our players read Sir Bob's letter and take it in properly.
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    Great piece of writing well done to Taylor and The Guardian
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    A good read. What a beautiful and amazing club we follow.
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    A Christmas present I received was a framed photo of the team. My grandad saw them many times, crossing the road from the Colgate factory after working Saturday morning. It was great to listen to his stories of that wonderful young side. The years have flown since the fiftieth anniversary and the derby game played in the retro strips. I can't believe that was a decade ago.
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    I have an original match programme from the Highbury game as part of my collection of Munich season programmes.
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    Brilliant read, the babes have a place in all united hearts old and young.
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    My dad was at that game. He thought Duncan Edwards the best player he'd ever seen.
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    He’s not alone in that.
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    MY god I thought i'd heard everything about Munich but then you get a story like Kenny Morgans getting rescued by two Journalists 5 hours after the search was called off!

    Can you just imagine being trapped in wreckage for 5 hours amidst such death and carnage. He was found unconscious and I hope he was knocked out for the duration because it does not bear thinking about being awake while that was going on!

    As it was, he went from having just established himself as first choice right back, to only play another few games, never recovering his form after the accident , even though his injuries were minor.

    We have had the stories of certain players like Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton and Harry Gregg over the years, but there are still stories from others like Kenny that have not been given the exposure, probably because it was all too much at the time.

    My dad was schoolmates with Shay Brennan and he said Shay spoke about the terrible mix of emotions he felt when he got his place in the team as a result of the death at Munich and scoring 2 goals almost in a daze.

    It broke my Dad's heart to lose that team - I can't imagine how it would have felt to lose MY United team at that age!
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    Both of those articles were beautiful but sad reads. Cheers @SteveJ much appreciated.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    You're welcome, mate. :)
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    Very good read!

    Will anyone from the forum will be going down on the 6th?
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    Yes, my grandad shared that opinion. The pre-Munich side was packed with superb young players who were quality in their own right, but Edwards was the fulcrum of the team, he said. Matt Busby gave a famous interview in the seventies with Arthur Montford in which he rated the pre-Munich side as his best team and Edwards as his best player, ahead of Best and Charlton.
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    To be fair Charlton called Edwards the best player he'd seen
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    Here's a newspaper cutting from just after Feb 6th. The detail in this really brings things home.

    Interesting to note is as it says Jimmy was 46, while Joe Armstrong chief scout (and "staff man"!) was the grand age of 64! He didn't drive, so I expect he'd gone on foot, bus or taxi. Back then I think players didn't all live too far from the ground, so possibly on foot. There would also probably have been quite a few that didn't have telephones. Knowing what I do about him, he'd have volunteered to do that rather than being "sent"!

    I've another similar cutting somewhere which I'll try and dig out.


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    The Munich Air Disaster was featured in one of Mayday, aka Air Crash Investigation documentary series, that documents aviation accidents, doesn't nessery focus on the long term effects on the club. Rather investigates what caused the accidents. Its very informative.


    Article about Harry Gregg.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rry-Gregg-opens-life-Munich-air-disaster.html

    Note:If some mod could be so kind to emblem the video.
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    A moving and very good piece by Daniel Taylor. It's still heartbreaking.
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    Brings a lump to the throat , I was born the same year as the crash yet I feel I can almost remember it happening. I think this is maybe because I watched a TV programme about it on the 10th anniversary about the time that I was becoming United mad !!
    My dad bought me a book about the busby babes and that was that for me United forever .
    It was making me so angry last week when we were signing Sanchez and all the press were spouting on that it must be all about the money because no one would chose United over City .
    I thought all of this chat was a disgrace and showed a complete lack of respect for the worlds most famous and loved football club, every journalist ( probably some so young that they know nothing about Munich ) should be made to sit down and read this article to remind them that our club is not built on oil money but is in fact a sporting institution a symbol about all that is great about sport in this country a reference point for football fans all over the world a club that went through the most terrible tragedy that wiped out a whole team in one devastating moment.Sir Bobby Charlton is a national treasure probably the worlds most famous living footballer, wherever you go in the world no matter what language they speak they all know and understand the words Manchester United , " all about money " utter nonsense and a bloody insult.
    Every player we sign and everyone that comes through the youth system should be taught about the history of the club, choose City over United ! why on earth would any footballer with any basic knowledge of football history do that ?
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    Fascinating read. And, always a pleasure seeing people with first hand information about that era telling their stories.
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    An email from the club today about what they are doing at the Huddersfield match.

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    RIP.