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  1. Jul 12, 2017
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    Timothy Evans Fosu-Mensah
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  2. Jul 12, 2017
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    lostcauz New Member

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    Should be sent out on loan.
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    Agree with the above, his awareness of his surroundings and positioning has to improve, he appears to not be aware of where opposition players are in relation to him at most times.

    Sitting on a bench isn't going to improve that in the short term.
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    FC Ronaldo Posts stuff that's been said before in tweet form

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    Tim's alive!
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    Our new.. Wes Brown.
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    Arka_BleedingRed Full Member

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    Timbo needs a loan. Physically, he is top notch but does not show enough, his quality on the ball and presence of mind enough to warrant a back up place in the squad. He needs to improve.a lot.
  7. Jul 16, 2017
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    reddevilzZ Full Member

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    Doesn't have any positional sense . Football Intelligence seems ok but not exceptional. Max he could be a squad player here and that too if he worked hard and be determined.
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    SaboTaj Full Member

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    He'll become better with his positioning and IQ once he understands what his best position is and that will take time. Still expect him to become a good player, whatever his position.
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    NinjaZombie Punched the air when Liverpool beat City

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    I thought Ajax graduates were supposed to be intelligent but his showing in the first team has been anything but.
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    jesperjaap Full Member

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    His sense of positioning is awful at right back, he ISNT a right back. Doesnt need a loan move as far as I am concerned, more his opportunities need to be at centre back or centre midfield, where he can excel
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    Sounds like he's picked up a injury judging by Mourinho's comments afterwards.
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    Stevie G's Red Card New Member

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    Some players need a run in the team to establish themselves and can't turn it on instantly in the odd game. I can't see TFM getting a run like that, so maybe a loan is the best option.
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    Quite possibly - I do think of all the younger players in the first team squad, he is the most likely to head out on a season long loan. If we pick the club right and he gets games like Pereira did, it should benefit him if that does turn out to the the case.
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    He is not going to get those opportunities here as we are well stacked at CB and as young options go both Tuanzebe and Perreira are ahead of him at CM, different position in CM yes but its a numbers game and those two combined with the senior option leave very little space if any for him. He should also as a defensive player be a lot more aware of his surroundings at RB even if it is not his natural position it is a position he has played on numerous occasions in the reserves and youth team. Going out on loan to a Championship team with a good agreement in place to get him games should help him to sharpen up his defensive instincts which look very shaky at RB. A loan looks like its been the making of Andreas, hopefully it can do the same for Timothy.

    This.
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    prath92 Full Member

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    A loan would be best. Would help him like it did for pereira. Should choose the right club though.
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    Still early days but I have been mixed about him since day 1. A loan would be good I guess but I rate Tuenzebe much higher
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    Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Staff

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    Part of a young players education is to play them in different roles. These friendlies are perfect opportunities.
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    Dobbs Banned

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    Disagree. Some young players are shifted around and maybe with forwards you need that flexibility but overall it doesn't do them any good. I don't think moving TFM around is a deliberate attempt to educate. It's more a case of where can we get him a bit of game time.
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    Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Staff

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    Possibly.

    We really don't know either way what coaches have in mind. However, I have heard plenty saying it's part of their education.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    Our youth coaches explicitly say they play players in different positions for education and so they have better understanding while moved back to their position. It is very good for a CB to have experience and understanding of fullback or midfield roles played around them. It is also where he can get game time but it is also good for development as many professional coaches believe so.

    He isn't a fullback though and he needs game time. No more sitting around for a whole year playing about 300 minutes. You don't play a game for 3 months and you're thrown in no shit you're positioning is going to be off and you're going to look off pace. His positioning looks off at RB but it has rarely ever looked a problem at CB. He needs a loan to gain the experience and iron out inconsistencies and positioning which just training and playing once every 3 months is never going to do.
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    Reasonably similar performance to Jones when he first signed for us. Physically impressive, some real moments of quality on the ball but a general sense that he doesn't entirely know what he's doing.

    Still, great attributes, think Jose might try to mold him into a specialist somewhere. Who knows where.
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    If he is not going to get those opportunities then yes a loan is a good option, but more the case he should be sold then. Is Perreira ahead of him though he has literally played one game and one preseason game in central midfield and been loaned out himself?

    In a way I agree with you though. Im not on the "he is an overhyped athlete" band wagon I keep seeing. I actually think he has huge potential but feel for him as I think he isnt going to get the opportunities, Perreira is in a similar situation too. PLaying him at right back though is plain wrong for me, he is good bombing forward but that is it. He is a very capable centre back though I think and I still feel cm could be his best position.
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    Its a line some coaches use when a player is being moved around for whatever reason. To me it always comes across as "hey this isn't ideal but let's search for a positive."

    There are other coaches who like a player to have a set role and learn that inside out.

    If TFM is going to be a midfielder that's where he should be getting his experience. That's got to be the priory over learning the right back role. So I'd get him loaned out this this year.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    No it is an idea we use extensively through the academy and it of course extends into senior football on the same principle too. It is very beneficial to players to know how those around him think and position themselves and there is no better way to do that than play in that position himself.

    He is 19 he doesn't really need a set position yet. He could easily be a better CB than midfielder. He needs game time and he isn't getting it here so yes he should go on loan.
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    Now i'm starting to think we have overrating him a little, just because he is an all action type of player. Jose needs to find and give him a settled position on the pitch and let him work on it
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    He definitely needs to find his best role and start learning the position. He has lots of ability and incredible athleticism but seems to lack positional awareness.

    Fullback is an ideal role for him just now. His lack of positional awareness would be far more dangerous at centre back and his technique doesn't look tight enough to play central midfield.

    Fosu Mensah is one of the few players in the United squad who can match Valencia's athleticism and pace. He seems an ideal understudy for the right back role. Valencia has improved the positional side of his game at right back significantly. Hopefully Fosu Mensah can do the same.
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    That stick to one position talk is poppycock. Certain players have skillsets which allow them to play all over thr pitch. He is one of those..
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    I am not a big fan of players playing multiple positions from young age. Does no good unless you are special talent.
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    I agree with you about his ability, also at 19 years old and with some good reserve performances under his belt any decision to sell him at this point would be silly as he's got plenty going for him just not enough that he can command a spot in the first team in his favored CB/CMD position at this point, therefore a loan is a good compromise to help him grow as a footballer.

    Perreira I would say is ahead of him primarily because he did so well during his time with Granada but also because Jose has said he will stay with the first team this season, I doubt he would offer the same reassurance to TFM at this point and is probably just waiting for reinforcements to let him out on loan. Either way I can't see him getting very much football in a central position this season, there is just too much competition there.
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    Said it before but he is not a right back. Needs a loan and play as a box to box or CDM at a lower level.
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    Looks a completely different player than he did in his first season. Looks incredibly rash and uncomfortable on the ball. It's disappointing to see really because I thought he looked good on the ball coming through the youth teams.
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    More like Scholesy, always has that one hilarious lunge every single match. A Brwning was more often than not legal.
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    Good performance today, a lot of overlaps, supporting movements receiving pass, and keep the ball well.

    Yup, RB is his position.
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    Very good block earlier on in the half too. I didn't see the first game, but thought he was quite impressive tonight.
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    Really good 45 mins today. Good defensive covering, early pressure created opportunity to shoot, decent early cross that Lukaku almost reached. Much better.
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    Decent enough tonight but he's just so unpredictable, in a bad way. Even he doesn't know what's coming next.
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    Much improved performance today and probably the best he's ever played for the 1st team. Needs to show this consistently. He hasn't been anywhere near good enough in the chances he's gotten so far. Hoping he will continue to improve and show the talent he showed in the reserves
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    I hope he goes out on loan to a PL or championship team and gets regular football as a RB. I think he could do well in that role but needs regular playing time to build up that consistency.
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    Can't doubt his talent but he's extremely raw. I'd like to see him on loan to fine tune his game. Sitting on the bench all season won't be helping anyone.
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    If we end up signing a full back I'd love for him to go in loan to a mid table prem team. Newcastle could probably do with him
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