Top 4 race 2016/17

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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
    Do you think Zlatan or Pogba would go to City with no CL footy for the same wages they get at United...?
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    Cassidy Not to be confused with Cassady the Liverpool fan

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    They came for Mourinho, and in Pogbas case because hes been at United before.
    City will attracts players because of Pep
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    I was responding to the point in the post 'players like' but to answer your point probably not Pogba as her was one of yours anyway, but if we offered some 35 year old £300k then yeah I think they would come
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    You think Zlatan would've gone to City?
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    Its weird but some United fans are acting like your in some kind of amazing form compared to the rest of the Top 6 but in reality despite being unbeaten your not.

    Since you went to 6th in week 11 you've picked up 30 points, in that time Chelsea have picked up 35, Spurs 29, City 28 (not bad as most people were considering Pep was a failure during that time), Arsenal 26 and admittedly Liverpool only 23. So Liverpool aside your form hasn't been that much better than of the others.

    Your form over the last 6 is worse than City's 13 points to 12, Chelsea and Spurs both have 11, Arsenal 10 and again only Liverpool are struggling with 6.
    You also have along with City the most difficult run of the top 6 to go.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Unbeaten since October and well placed in every cup competition in the middle of February.
    What's good form huh? Only the run away leaders have more points but hey ho we're overreacting
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    Wouldn't bank on anything right now.

    We just have to hope our form maintains until the end of the season (a defeat or two permitting).
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    padr81 Full Member

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    As opposed to a City team you said would finish closer to Everton than you guys who you've got only 2 points more than in all those unbeaten games.
    Also I never said your not in good form I said some of you guys believe your in amazing form compared to the rest of the top 6, which you aren't.
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Delusional much.

    "Dominant" "Cruising in Europe" are you serious? Fine words but no substance behind them.
    St Etienne had you pooping your pants and silenced your stadium last night.
    More composure in front of goal and more savvy refereeing would have resulted in a very tricky 2nd Leg but the tie is now a formality. This doesn't, however, detract from the fact that United got very lucky last night.

    Not particularly scared that United will overtake us either. You may scrape Top 4 due to the poor form of Arsenal and Liverpool but it looked like that last season and you didn't quite make it. Both the above teams will have much more friendly ends to the season than you so to make up further ground on them is no formality.

    We'll sign our key targets at the end of the season with or without CL don't you worry about that and next season you won't see us for dust.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Are we not second on your list?
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Don't want either, thank you.
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    padr81 Full Member

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    You are and thats good form but 2 points on a team over 14 games, is that amazing form compared to struggling City who are going to finish closer to Everton? Your form is good but so is the form of 4 of the 5 teams around you, 6 of 7 if you include Everton who are the prem's form team and have closed the gap on you over the last 6.
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    padr81 Full Member

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    I'd have taken Pogba in a heart beat, Zlatan I wouldn't have taken but he's proved me wrong and being the best no.9 in the prem this season for me.
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    They didn't get a single shot on target compared to our 8 and we had 62% possession. Old Trafford sounded better than it has in a long time but you see whatever makes you happy :)
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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 Banned

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    @Thunderhead, i meant they are improving, but still don't look unbeatable.
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    Plenty of time for the wheels to come off of all teams ahead of us too. In fact, Arsenal and Liverpool have been struggling while City aren't really setting the world alight and have just lost the player which gave them some impetus.

    As for being outside the top 4, we are 4 points off second. All it takes is one weekend and this conversation would be hilarious.
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    NK86 Full Member

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    Seems like you were seeing a re-run of [pick any match] at the Etihad. Need to concentrate better I would say that the home team was donning the proud red not the crappy blue.
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    Ill go back and find 100 posts from rival fans lecturing us that we were deluded when we told you all that our results wasn't reflecting our performances. That as soon as attacking play started to gel in the final third we would be right up there with the rest of the top 4.
    It all happened. Even our points total from all these fecking games doesn't reflect our performances. We have proven to be neigh on impossible to beat for 4 months and counting. We have found a formation that allows Mikhi and Pogba to play at their best, our best defender is back which sees us keeping 5 clean sheets in a row and our top goal scorer from last year is almost back to his best on the left hand side.
    We don't struggle in games in the sense of getting overran by the opposition or rely on DDG to get us out of trouble. When we drop points it tends to be when our players are missing easy chance after easy chance rather than getting nullified by the opposition.
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Hence why I stated that their lack of composure in front of goal cost them dearly.
    Possession stats are all very well but there are many recent examples of teams with way less than 50% coming away with a win or draw. City have fallen victim to this many times this season.
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    NK86 Full Member

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    Yeah, why would you want Pogba when you have the mighty Fabian Delph. :lol:
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    Indeed, you could well be 7 points off second and 4 ahead of 7th :) or 1 off second and 10 off 7th.
    Why are these excuses ok for United but not the other. I can count 3 games where City were outplayed this season Spurs away, Everton away and Leicester and a couple of dodgy halves in other games' were of our own making but only United are allowed say results didn't match performances, at your current super form vs our struggling one you will need just 30 more games to make 4 points on us.
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    Peanut Butter Full Member

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    Why do all of these City, Spurs and Liverpool fans sign up to this place to tell us all how crap they think Utd are? It's weird.

    We are doing very well at the moment and we're playing some lovely stuff at times too
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Beat your chest and shout your slogans. Fact is they silenced your crowd until your second goal gave you a sense of relief with their great support despite being outnumbered about 8 to 1.

    Am I wrong?
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    You can always tell we're doing well when our resident rivals try downplaying us, just accept for once that we're actually looking like a pretty good team.
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    Even weirder that they all unite together to shit on United and defend each other's clubs too, that's really odd IMO.
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    NK86 Full Member

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    You are obviously wrong. You seriously were watching a City match, weren't you?
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    Yeah, we won 3-0 too. But you're right it was on a knife edges for the first 3 minutes.
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    I'm sure there are many examples of that but I also distinctly remember many opposition fans (myself included) not really understanding the mass hysteria on here when you were only single figure number of points away from the top 4. A lot of the criticism, the thinking that Man Utd were out of the race didn't really seem to be coming from opposition fans form what I remember?
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Because City have had many games where you have played like shit this season. Performance wise our results tend to be more comfortable, we need to create 2 great chances to score one so when we win we've needed to pepper the opposition goal.
    City have had plenty of games where you have played like shit and won. A lot more games when the opposition came back at you for 45 mins.
    Lets not pretend you've been playing consistently well now, your back 3 experiments have been hilarious to witness.
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    Mainly Arsenal and Liverpool fans in this very thread. Glaston also but I wouldn't tarnish your entire fanbase...
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Yes you are and I've acknowledged it in previous posts but you just can't resist the overhype and trashing other clubs and fans when you are in such good form.
    Should we meekly accept it?
    Do you want the Caf just to consist of United fans only? This forum's better than that.
    Argue with us if you disagree but don't question our right of reply.
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Is NK86 the Zoological Society's Serial Number for an ostrich?
    I watched the match last night through very expensive and high quality headphones and you were totally and completely silenced.
    N'est ce que pas?
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    You weren't here in the Good Old Fergie days either. Dec 2012 joiner :lol:
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    Fair enough. I've always said its a bit of a fool's game predicting anything in football with such certainty but people will carry on doing it anyway and people will persistently get egg on their face.

    I don't see how anyone can look at the Top 6 (minus Chelsea) and say with certainty that any of those teams will be in the top come the end of the season.
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    Okay if you say so...
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    Indeed but we drew 1-1 against Everton with a back 3 and Koeman called us the best side he's ever seen. And yes in many games with a back 3 we've played very well and just didn't take our chances, but that excuse only applie to United. When we've played like shit we've still been the better side. Also I can count the amount of times we've blown chances just like you guys and ended up dropping points, Spurs at home, Chelsea at home, Everton at home (where we missed 2 penalties). Not to mention Middleboro. Had we taken them alone we'd be above Chelsea, but we didn't and those teams got results in the end but only United are allowed that excuse right?

    "Hilarious" lol, amazing Man United make up 2 points on Hilarious City over 14 games. Your logic is astounding. Amazing your way to 4 points behind us after 25 games. What I'd call hilarious is an amazing team who have only scored 39 goals this season are currently 4 points behind City who you said will finish closer to Everton than you.

    You have absolute bias against anything City and it comes out as rubbish. We've got more points than you on merit, we've scored more goals than you and over the course of the season so far we've been better than you on merit. We've also go marginally better form over the last 6 games.

    I always posted you guys were better than your results btw if you read my posts on United but the difference is I will look at United and judge them without the hate, bias and rubbish that some of you guys use for City. But the bottom line is your form isn't amazing in comparsion to 6 of the top 7, its marginally better than 5 of them and thats using a United specific time line.
    In recent form (last 6 games which is what most sites use) City and Everton have been better on merit, and since the start of the season the 5 teams above you deserve to be there.
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    Peanut Butter Full Member

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    They're obsessed with Utd mate.
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    Everything's good at little Citeh, the fans are happy, their star striker's happy, and the new manager...?

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    I agree with this. I'm confident City will finish in the top 4, but I wouldn't argue for it as a certainty. It's a very tight race, which is why there's lots of handbags in here. It's a valid point on both sides that United fans are taking confidence from a good unbeaten run, and rival fans are pointing out they're still 6th.

    If you wanted to, you could make an arguable case for just about any side not making the top 4 at the moment, and someone else would have something to say about it. Arsenal fans turning on the manager, Liverpool have crumbled since Xmas, Spurs 2 wins in their last 6, City's reliance on Aguero staying fit now, and United's league position combined with tough fixtures. Everton for top four.
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    padr81 Full Member

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    So your posting a video of a frustrated manager after 1 game because you have no answers for anything I posted.... Prove one of the things I've said wrong.