Top Four Race 2017/18

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Damien, Dec 13, 2017.

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    Havak Pokemon master

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    Yeah, it will still be a brilliant tie though IMO. Spurs have hit a nice little unbeaten run themselves since getting battered by Man City. Played 10, Won 6, Drawn 4, Scored 24, Conceded 7. Get through their FA Cup tie and beat Arsenal, everything looks brilliant for them - they could even be in the Top 4 by that point. If Spurs come away from Turin with a 2-1 defeat, 1-1 draw, or better, then I'd give them a real chance of going through.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Yeah, should be cracking tie. Hopefully it won't be over in the first leg itself.
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    Akshay Moderator Staff

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    Arsenal at 1% to make the top 4 sounds way too low.
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    Thisistheone Full Member

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    Reckon it'll be:

    City
    Utd
    Spurs
    Liverpool

    Unless Chelsea sacked Conte and get a big improvement from the players under a new manager.
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    Scroto Baggins Full Member

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    For Spurs they have had a lot of the longer term injury players return; Dembele, Wanyama, Lamela all back and playing, just Rose and Alderweireld still out now.

    Chelsea are in poor form atm, the fact that they are going to most likely be knocked out of the CL by Barca may actually be beneficial for them making top 4. No CL games to have to squeeze in between league fixtures.
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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 New Member

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    If we beat Spurs on saturday i'd give us about 20% of chance to reach the top 4, as apart from City and United, our fixtures are pretty easy, then.
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    africanspur Full Member

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    It does but I guess its based on a mixture of recent form (where Arsenal have been crap), number of points needed to go into 4th (5, with a worse GD), fixtures (a quarter of their remaining fixtures are against Man City, Spurs and Man Utd, two of them away) and the fact they have to overtake 2 clubs plays against them.

    It does still seem a bit low though in fairness, you are right.
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    africanspur Full Member

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    Appreciate the confidence but not quite as optimistic! Juve are still a very very strong team.

    If we keep the first leg respectable though, we'll have a real chance back at Wembley. Hopefully Alderweirald gets some minutes against Newport and then Arsenal, would be great to have him and Vertonghen back together for such an important match.
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    Trikie New Member

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    I know what mean. According to most on here Liverpool are so shit and inconsistent and yet we still sit in third spot only 5 points off second spot.
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    Scroto Baggins Full Member

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    Yeah Arsenal win at Wembley and they are in business, Arsenal lose and they are gone.

    Could work to Spurs advantage in the top 4 race if they get knocked out by Juve, probably a what? 50/50 chance. Maybe 60/40 Juventus' way. Spurs have been good value in the CL this season and I dont think will be a push over.
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    prateik Full Member

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    The fact that 1 round changed Chelsea's chances so much shows its pretty pointless.

    1 poor performance, an early red card. Too many variables can result in a unexpected result. If it fluctuates that much, it isnt worth looking it
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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 New Member

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    My prediction:

    City
    United
    Liverpool
    Spurs
    Arsenal
    Chelsea
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    RedRom "Where's Lingard?"

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    Getting past Buffon is never an easy task, even at his advanced footballing age, which makes it such a fascinating tie, and one that I am most certainly looking forward to.
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    africanspur Full Member

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    It wasn't one round only, its 2.

    Spurs picked up 4 points from 2 difficult games against the team 2nd in the league and 3rd. Chelsea pick up 0 points against 2 teams in mid table.

    I agree it is very difficult to predict (exactly because of results like that!) but its not quite based on just one game.
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    OneUnited24 Full Member

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    But its usually the easy fixtures that have done you this season. TBH unless your away form improves you arent getting anywhere near the top 4.
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    What's with talk about 'only' 5,6,7 points. Are people not realizing that 5-7 points is a lot at this stage of the season.

    Arsenal have to go on a perfect run which includes 6 away fixtures (so they have no hope of doing it). United have to be in relegation form because they are so far ahead (and the teams below them still have to play each other).

    At this point, it's a scrap between Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham.
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    Shark @NotShark

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    And 2 points off 5th.
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    RedSky likes to kick 10-year-olds Scout

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    Touch and go on whether Liverpool finish above Spurs but I agree with this.
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    singabiru Banned

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    Tottenham are peaking at the right time as is typical of them. Will displace Chelsea or Liverpool unfortunately at the end of the season.
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    Pagh Wraith Full Member

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    Yes, you are. Why would anything have changed in that regard? And I made that point before the Spurs game when United were on a winning run so I'm not sure what you're on about.
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    Rafateria Banned

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    Thanks to Red Sky for this :
    CL - Chelsea v Barcelona 20th Feb
    PL - United v Chelsea 25th Feb
    PL - City v Chelsea 4th Mar
    PL - Chelsea v Palace 10th Mar
    CL - Barcelona v Chelsea 14th Mar
    PL - Burnley v Chelsea 17th Mar
    PL - Chelsea v Tottenham 1st Apr

    They could have an FA Cup fixture in there too if they beat Hull on the 16th Feb.

    And to me for posting this earlier (Chelsea's remaining away games) : United, City, Burnley, Southampton, Swansea and Newcastle.

    They are in serious trouble IMHO. I think they are going to miss out on Top 4. Most people would have looked at Bournemouth and Watford and said that's their chance to consolidate 3rd, now however they are in a serious battle for 3rd to 5th and with by far the toughest away games and schedule of the three clubs.
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    Addictive New Member

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    I think it'll finish;

    1. City
    2. Liverpool
    3. United
    4. Spuds

    5. Arsenal
    6. Chelsea
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    Rafateria Banned

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    Again thanks to RedSky for this (I've updated it) :

    If you look at their results in 2018:

    Arsenal 2 : 2 Chelsea
    Norwich 0 : 0 Chelsea
    Chelsea 0 : 0 Arsenal
    Chelsea 0 : 0 Leicester
    Chelsea 1 : 1 Norwich
    Brighton 0 : 4 Chelsea
    Arsenal 2 : 1 Chelsea
    Chelsea 3 : 0 Newcastle
    Chelsea 0 : 3 Bournemouth
    Watford 4 : 1 Chelsea

    12 goals scored
    12 goals conceded
    2 wins
    5 draws
    3 losses

    Does that look like a One Round down turn to you ?
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    prateik Full Member

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    It was in response to the tweet saying Chelseas chances fell from 81% to 42% since Wed. As @africanspur pointed out, it was 2 games and not 1. Still a pretty wild swing. Those numbers are for suckers. It changes way too wildly in a short period of time.. and all teams have been inconsistent. 2 points between 3rd and 5th is almost nothing. Could go any way.. Even Arsenal arent completely out of it.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    Your away form is wretched. I reckon Spurs will beat you on Saturday.
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    squiggle Full Member

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    If Arsenal beat Spurs there’ll only be a point between the teams and Arsenal are quite a new team now. I don’t think the away form so far this season is as relevant as it was.

    I’d have had Spurs as strong favourite a couple of weeks ago but if Aubameyang, Ozil, Mkhitaryan and Ramsey can combine anything like as well as they did against Everton then I’m not sure.

    Of course Spurs are a better team than Everton at the moment but still, Arsenal did look good.
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    RedRom "Where's Lingard?"

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    Yeah, that isn't happening.
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    Craig Bellendy New Member

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    DreamIsh Banned

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    I like the sound of that. :D

    The only problem is, whilst others around us are not only susceptible to, but likely to, drop points. Liverpool being Liverpool will also drop points. Us finishing second would require a consistency from now till the end of the season I have yet to see.

    Anything’s possible though
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    Lol, have you ever seen Jose bottle a position of strength? Klopp on the other hand...

    Bar a massive injury crisis, Liverpool aren't catching us. You should be looking behind though. If Arsenal beat Spurs, they are back in it and they could well be a dark horse with the Auba-Mkhi combo if it clicks.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Chelsea v Liverpool

    Potential Top 4 shoot out that one
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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 New Member

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    Indeed. I said "if", i'd say a big one :lol:. One can hope that with Auba and Mhki we can at least score some on saturday.
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    Number1 Banned Verified Moaner

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    Be good if:-

    City
    United
    Liverpool
    Spurs

    Get top4, think they would represent English football best next season in the Champions League.

    Also rooting for Arsenal to win the Europa League so 5 English clubs are in the Champions League again next season.
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    septic Full Member

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    Who do you support?
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    cyberman Full Member

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    @Pagh Wraith
    The fact you only run Utd down with your nonsense and fail to update this thread with your analysis when other sides struggle?
    Keep us updated as we go along buddy..
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    singabiru Banned

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    Chelsea. Also, Man Utd seems to has settled down with the players showing familiarity with Mourinho’s system and the runners-up position is pretty much theirs.
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    Judas Open to offers

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    I can't imagine anyone but the most blind of Liverpool fans thinking they'll finish 2nd.
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    Mr H Full Member

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    I would be extremly surprised if Mkhi doesn't shit the bed away at Spurs.
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    RedRom "Where's Lingard?"

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    And eventually then they won't be able to see the table if they did so! :D:D:D:lol::lol::lol:
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    DreamIsh Banned

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    I had to check the table again after reading this. You had me believe we were 16pts behind you.

    It’s 5. 5pts.

    Now that isn’t to say I think we’ll finish second. I don’t. We’re nowhere near consistent enough.

    But it’s not a totally inconceivable idea. It could happen. I’ve seen stranger things (:D)