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Top Four Race 2017/18

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Damien, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. Feb 8, 2018

    Rafateria Banned

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    Jesus Christ. You are so full of shit. Zero chance ? Not even the bookies think that. For the record I think from here in we'll finish behind you, not because we're a weaker team (that's debatable depending on which side of the fence you sit) but you are 5 points ahead (we'll need to win at OT - not beyond the realms of possibility) and there is very little depth to our squad which will end up costing us points.

    Your posts are so hyperbolic and you repeat yourself over and over and over with anyone who dares to post a contrarian opinion. You said you remember being 12 yrs old with fondness .. wasn't that long ago was it ?
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    Rafateria Banned

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    Good analogy perhaps. Typical Mourinho, and maybe it's true with City as strong as they are and playing as they are, that style may no longer be enough.
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    AgentP Full Member

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    Maybe this will spur Mourinho on to building an even better side like Fergie did after Jose raised the bar in 2004.
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    Judas Open to offers

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    Huh? If you finish behind us, you're a weaker team, if you weren't weaker, you would finish ahead of us.

    The irony of you attacking someone for being immature.
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    It's gonna be really tight. I read a stat about Chelsea being the luckiest side in Europe this season, based on a load of stats. If that doesn't continue and this awful form does, they could slip away. However, all in all, I think it will be City, Us, Spurs, Liverpool.
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    royboy16 Full Member

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    I think Utd,City,Pool and Spurs will finish top 4.

    City will finish top obviously,havent a clue of the final league positions for the other 3 teams as it could easily chop and change come May,also a 5 point gap between 2nd and third is feck all.
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    Primativ New Member

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    Spurs are in excellent form at the moment. Saturday is the last of what will be the toughest period in the season with United (h) and Liverpool (a) conjuring 4 points. Another 3 points against Arsenal (h) will really see Spurs in a good position to achieve top 4 this season.

    We now have our best defender back in Alderweireld and crucially a fully fit squad to choose from. That is a huge boost.

    I just feel we are building up a good head of steam and usually save our best for the run in. Based on form over the last 10 games, I'll be surprised and very disappointed if we don't manage to overhaul at least one of Liverpool or Chelsea.

    I feel 3rd is well within Spurs grasp.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    He is literally the worst poster I have seen on this forum for years
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    gajender Full Member

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    I have read couple posters mention this but does it stand the scrutiny, you had amazing run in last season but totally collapsed during prior season's run in , during Pochetinno's first season it was again poor so this notion that you tend to finish stronger under Pochetinno is nothing but conjecture at the moment.
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    Utdstar01 Full Member

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    Reckon Jose will have us massively up for the Chelsea and Liverpool games. He hates Conte and the scouse.
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    VanGaalEra Full Member

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    Win this weekend against Newcastle and I'd say we are pretty comfortable.

    Would take a LVG December style meltdown for it to go pear shaped.
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    Dumbstar Full Member

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    I don't think Jose dislikes Klopp or vice versa despite the contrasting playing styles. He might dislike the Scouse obviously but managers don't care about fans that much in the grand scheme of things. Conte on the other hand.
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    Utdstar01 Full Member

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    Never said he had anything against Klopp. He's disliked Liverpool for a long while, the dislike has grown more and more since the 'ghost goal'. Hence why he was so determined on stopping you winning the title 3 years ago was it?
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    dwd Saturday Night Spies

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    We’ve still got some tough games coming up, I wouldn’t be confident until at least the end of March if the gap is still what it is now.
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    RedSky likes to kick 10-year-olds Scout

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    The below are taken from the 1st January to last game of the season.

    14/15
    10 wins, 3 draws, 6 losses - longest winning streak ( 3 games)

    15/16
    10 wins, 5 draws, 4 losses - longest winning streak ( 6 games)

    16/17
    16 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses - longest winning streak ( 10 games)

    17/18
    3 wins, 3 draws - longest winning streak ( 2 games)

    Their form has gradually improved, but given they already have 3 draws this season it does suggest they wont be able to beat last seasons form. Replicating 15/16s form would probably be enough for a top 3 imo.
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    Rafateria Banned

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    And the lack of thought shown in your response. Anyone should be able to work out the difference between a 'Squad' and a 'Team'. Learn to read a post properly.
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    Rafateria Banned

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    There was another one who was here up until it was obvious City were going to win the league. I forgot who he was now but every post was how United were easily going to overhaul them and how everyone else who couldn't see this was a traitor to the club. He's disappeared. Or maybe it's Red Rom in another guise !!
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    Rafateria Banned

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    Hang on ! You posted that THIS MORNING ? Am I living in the future ? Or there a time-warp going on here ? You do know that United vs Huddersfield and Liverpool vs. Spurs are now in the past, right ? :D :D :D
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    gajender Full Member

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    Oh I agree they have improved year on year under Pochetinno but last year seemed more of an outlier rather than the norm and for me run in is last 6-8 games of the season and they need to do better than their 15-16 second half form because replicating it would lead them to around 72 points which might not be enough for top 4.
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    SirAF Ageist

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    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, that was the only motivation too :drool: Chelsea didn't have anything else to play for at that stage, did they?
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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    I'm pretty confident we'll be top 4 and really we should finish 2nd because I think we're the 2nd best team in the league.

    I mean it doesn't really matter I suppose whether you finish 2nd or 3rd or 4th anymore but I'd still like to finish in front of the rest.
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    africanspur Full Member

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    It's not quite conjecture, it's objective fact. In every season under Poch, we've picked up more points in the second 19 games than in the first 19.

    Of course other clubs may pick up more but after so many seasons, i don't think it's coincidence.
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    Tincanalley Turns player names into a crappy conversation

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    If he is still here, Conte will be up for us too.:cool:
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    Organic Potatoes Full Member

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    I’d imagine Jose would try to have us up for all the league matches. That’s sort of why he’s here.
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    anant Full Member

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    Chelsea will drop out of the top 4 even though they haven't been as bad as media is making it out to be (atleast not for the majority of the season). Us, City, Spurs and Pool to finish in top 4 and Arsenal to win EL.
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    gajender Full Member

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    In 2015-16 season it was even split and 2014-15 there was marginal improvement , but my point was more about run in rather than splitting season in two Half's like games in April and May leading up to the conclusion of the league what Sir Alex used to call squeaky bum time.
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    Wengerscoat Full Member

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    May God put rivers of honey in your mouth my friend.
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    Mush Yusuf New Member

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    I hope Pool and Chelsea lose out on Top four as there managers have been running their mouths about our club all the time, whinging and moaning every chance they get, if anything Mourinho has been very calm and relaxed even when results have not gone our way due to bad refereeing decisions.
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    unitedforeveral Banned

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    There are a total of 36 points left and all the top 6 teams have difficult matches coming up in the second half of the season including some horrendous fixtures for Chelsea who go against Barca, City, United and Barca again. I wouldn't be surprised if even City drag their title run until the last month. We still need to do a lot to secure 2nd.
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    CA1 Full Member

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    Yes I do.

    I was posting that as a viewpoint regarding our top 4 hopes after last Wednesday night vs Spurs and why it seems to be going our way.
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    Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict

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    Are you trying to claim Liverpool have a better team than United?

    With Coutinho gone, only Firmino and Salah make it into a United team.

    Your midfield, defence and goalkeeper are a bad joke. Even VVD looks like a downgraded Smalling.

    Mane would be dislodged by any of Sanchez, Martial or Lukaku, especially given his poor form this season.
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    Halds New Member

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    Ahh.. Your team is so much better than Liverpools, that only Firmino and Salah would make it in your team.

    So.. Being just five points ahead, when your team is so superior, does that make Klopp a better manager than Mourinho? ;)
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    RedRom "Where's Lingard?"

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    Really?? Who would you drop from our team to put them into our team?
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    Lingard and Jesse :lol:
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    Oh God, now you've done it! :lol:
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    Cassady Supports Liverpool, Not Accrington Stanley

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    He's disliked us since 2004 because he wanted to become our manager but we knocked him back.
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    roonster09 Full Member

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    Any links for that? Chelsea or Liverpool in no contest tbf.
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    Cassady Supports Liverpool, Not Accrington Stanley

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    Only Salah will make it.