Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Morpheus 7, Jul 20, 2018.
Would prefer Cancelo to Wan Bissaka if the rumors are true he has fallen out with Allegri.
Meunier and Alderweireld for £50m would improve us more than AWB and KK.
And no, I’m not trolling.
Disagree on Toby, but Meunier could be a sensible signing.
I don’t think KK would be any better than Toby for us. At least the latter is Prem proven and would only cost £25m, leaving more funds to upgrade midfield and attack.
I'm tempted to agree, but at this point why would Alderweireld join us?
Koulibaly would be significantly better than Alderweireld for United because he's a better player and plays as the left CB which is what United need.
And Wan-Bissaka has performed at a higher level this season, his first full one, than Meunier has in his entire career.
The only advantage to going with the Belgian boys is that they would be a lot cheaper.
Don’t agree with any of that.
That said, if those are the moves we make I’ll hope to be proved wrong.
What would be your preference then? Don't say De Ligt since there is no chance in hell he is coming here.
Wan Bassaka isnt bad going forward. Whats more important though is with a proper right sided forward he would provide a great base for that player to go and attack.
Munier isnt the best defensively
Meunier and Alderweireld for £50m.
Promote Tuanzebe and keep Smalling around for depth. Spend the big bucks on midfield and attack.
Hopefully De Ligt stays at Ajax one more season so we can have a proper go at him next summer though that’s doubtful.
The thing for me is that we've wasted so much money on average players that I don't want to see us waste even more and to me that's all I see when I watch Pepe, loose control, often brainless, I just don't see him as a £50M player that will change anything about this team, I've never liked Lukaku but I personally don't see him offering us anything more than him or Rashford or Martial.
If we drop £100M combined on Bruno Fernandes and Pepe I think we'll still struggle to make 4th and then we'll be lumbered with two more overpriced players on high wages that we can't shift. I realize we are in a bad situation as not only is this a 3rd time in 6 seasons we are in the dead end cup, the whole club is coming off like a poisoned chalice at this point, but I just don't see spending big sums on mid level talent as being the way out of the hole we are in.
Ajax and Liverpool are hard to compare to, in some ways what Klopp has done with that midfield is like what Fergie did with us in latter years, where a great defense and strong firepower along with a galvanized team unit papered over the midfield, and Ajax have such an ingrained system that it makes them greater than the sum of their parts. Ole is no Fergie or Klopp, I don't even know what he wants to play and he doesn't seem like he does either, so at least if he uses the kids we wont dig the wage hole any deeper.
I wonder how much we'd end up spending if we'd sell Pogba, Lukaku, Bailly, Rojo and Darmian. That could generate 250m. If we seriously do have another 200m to spend, we could really be looking at a huge summer.
A Sancho and a Koulibaly would be less than half that budget.
I'd like us to keep lukaku for another season if we can get a decent RW player and also RB covered.
I believe he could still put up good numbers with flank support.
He won’t be able to do the amount of running that Ole wants
I just think we're looking at too many replacements if he goes too.
Could be useful for half the games.
All depends on who Ole thinks he can bring in I suppose.
Probably mentioned before but when does the window officially open?
Bruno Fernandez. 60m (?)
Daniel James £15m
Nicolas Pepe £60m
Player sales - £50m ish (Deadwood, not including Pogba or De Gea currently)
A mix of more likely transfers, cheaper alternatives and players I’d love at the club. If we got those 6, sold some deadwood ( Rojo, Darmian, Bailly etc) and promoted Greenwood, Chong and Gomes, I think we’d be a lot healthier.
I don’t think any of those players or the prices are unrealistic. I’ve stuck a question mark next to Bruno because I’m not sure whether he would be cheaper, as some outlets are claiming, or more expensive.
I’d also say that I’d love Sancho but I don’t think he’s leaving Dortmund this summer. We’d be better off going for him next year as our top target, especially if we get back in the CL
Midnight, although some leagues still have a couple of games left so even if we do bid for Koulibaly and or Fernandes and get the deals done quick, I doubt we’d hear about it until June anyway.
As good as that looks on paper, I don't see us signing 5 foreign players this summer with the talk of Ole wanting more British players in the squad. There's also only 1 player in that list who has any PL football under his belt too.
I'd be happy with those 6 though for sure, just can't see it.
I probably agree. Guess that’s my realistic wish list but I can see us going for Rice instead of Ndidi and I did think we’d look at Maguire ahead of Koulibaly because for some reason he just seems like a Utd transfer, the sort that Sir Alex would make.
MC: Bruno Fernandes
Not even when he loses a few pounds? He always seems to work hard and try his best on the pitch. I really think we've been using him wrong.
If we were playing 442 with 2 wingers and fullbacks capable of crossing, with a Beardsley style link man behind then maybe we’d see the best of him
Add a DM and we are set provided Pogba and Lukaku doesn’t leave
Also I feel Pepe is our backup plan to Sancho
I wouldn't be against a 442 with Martial and Lukaku as our strikers.
Get it done Woody; get it done.
McTominay / Fred
Martial (as main striker)
Agree. Those are the two I'd like the club to sign as well.
Don't think people should hope for us to sign Sancho this summer. If we get CL-qual next season then that is the most likely transfer.
Van de Beek
Wishful thinking and all but I'd love that.
The stuff posted from Reddit but in the Rojo thread seems a tad underwhelming if true.
Reddit itk saying De Gea will be leaving the club.
If this is the case I'd rather Give Romero/Henderson a chance before blowing a load on a new keeper or getting someone mediocre like cilessen.
DDG is not irreplacable but his move will send all the wrong signals, club deteriorating, stars leaving, wrong direction etc.
Any link, & idea of his credibility?
Personally I wouldn't let Romero anywhere near the first choice spot, and Henderson would be an almighty risk, so would rather DDG just stays for now, even if we've got to let him go for free next summer, there is enough work to do without adding this to it imo.
I don't really hang around the reddit too much so not sure on his reliability but from what I can gather he does have a source at the club.
I still think Romero could be decent for a year, he's never done poorly when he has been called on. We have lots of positions to fill, a top keeper will eat a lot of our budget.
Cheers, reality is it is probably no more reliable than anywhere else, but I've thought DDG might be the big players we lose this summer for a while, I'd rather he stayed, but if PSG want to pay him what he wants then I don't blame him really, or us for that matter this time.
Sadly he probably could do with a change after clearly wanting several times before, and putting up with a lot of crap in his time here, so might just be best all round.
I reckon cracks would start to show in Romero's game pretty quickly if he's first choice, so I'm not keen, but our need is much greater elsewhere so wouldn't be the end the works if it happened, just as long as any DDG money is added to the overall budget.
Duncan Castles has said similar.
This is the same guy who posted a couple of days ago about the details from a meeting?? About how we want Sancho, AWB, Koulibaly and Rabiot. Most of what he'd written seemed to make sense (apart from Ole loving Rojo ). So maybe he does have an inside source and is right about DDG.
I don’t want an upgrade.
I want a fecking Rolls Royce. If I’m paying out Rolls money then I don’t want an upgrade.
Saying that we won’t get who we really want because the players us fans want unfortunately want CL and there is a slight problem with that.
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