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    Sassy Colin Death or the gladioli!

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    But why would the club seek to undermine the manager? It's to the club's benefit to support Jose in all things.
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    Fridge chutney Full Member

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    What are you talking about? We are superior to City by a fair margin in almost every off-field category.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Because our board are being mocked for failing to sign Joses players and are making out its by design.
    Pile it on Jose, keep our job safe. Booooo Jose..
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    OohAahMartial Full Member

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    Jose and Woodward and the Scout team can all go, and we can probably open the Jose Sack Watch thread already. They all seem to be pulling in different directions. This season will surely be Jose's last, probably a Chelsea style meltdown again.

    Its not just that Woodward didn't buy who was needed, he couldn't even sell Darmian and Rojo. Manager asked for two more and didn't get even one, and Woodward is now acting like he knows more about footballer's qualities than Mourinho. What a shite season this will be.
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    P-Nut0712 fan of well-known French footballer Fabinho

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    Darmian will still likely go once Valencia is back. Rojo will be kept as back up until we get in the additional CB Jose wants. Probably Alderweireld in January
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    Sereques Full Member

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    Maguire is not worth 75M, Spending 50M on Alderweireld when he will be free in 12months is bad business. Mina? give me a break. Only acute muppets will sanction those signings. If Mourinho is desperate for a defender, why did he let Tuanzebe go to Villa?
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    endless_wheelies feeling dizzy

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    haram Full Member

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    Alderweireld will be £25 million next year. Tuanzebe is on loan at a championship side for a reason.
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    NotQuiteManc Full Member

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    I don't want to click it, but is that headline a quote or just some random journalist's comment?
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    endless_wheelies feeling dizzy

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    Gasolin Full Member

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    It's Jose's picture, and there is one topic about United, but it's more about the FA. And I tend to agree. The transfer window shortening is not a bad idea, but clubs should be allowed to buy from foreign clubs until end of Aug. Only buy, not sell, or something like that.
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    Joseunited New Member

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    This idiot has proved in the last 48 hrs that he knows feck all about just about anything.
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    AkaAkuma Full Member

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    The quote has no relation to Mourinho or United - the arrogance, cockiness is Martin Samuel feeling on the shortened transfer window in general. The Media see blood with our fanbase and are milking it.
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    VintageWhatnots New Member

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    Let's get things straight here, I'm not saying, and I haven't once said that Ed had a good window. I'm not making excuses for the outcome, I am simply pointing out, that as individuals that aren't privy to the pertinent information, we can't make the appropriate judgement to decide on how well Ed as an individual performed.

    Your insistent comparison to Moyes just doesn't wash, we all knew the circumstances and factors (the majority of which at least) that lead to the results. We know what set of players he had, what team he picked, what formation he chose, what tactics, what subs, what injuries, and suspensions. When all that was considered, finishing 6th or whatever wasn't good enough. If he'd had half the season with the entire first team out injured, then we probably would have looked at it, and thought, it's not the outcome we wanted, but all things considered we can't complain too much.


    You can't completely separate finances and player recruitment, they are intrinsically linked, players cost a lot of money, then there are agent fees, and wages etc etc. All of these things are considered whenever any player is bought, if they're not, you end up like Leeds.

    Of course you can't just not spend anything ever either, or you still end up also rans, only with a large pot of money that would just dwindle away.

    From a purely footballing perspective the window was terrible for united, I don't disagree, we set out to get 5 players, and we didn't get them.

    Ed, however, can't look at it from a purely footballing perspective, and we don't know the circumstances that led to us only getting two of our targets.

    I'm being far from hypocritical, you're quite right I don't know what happened in the negotiations, or what other factors were being applied to Ed. That supports my argument not hinders it, as I'm precisely saying that we don't know so we can't judge.

    You say I'm all over the place, but half of what I say is in direct response to your points, the rest supports the fact you shouldn't judge without the facts.

    You can keep banging on about 2/5 but ultimately unless you know the reasons for the results they are meaningless in isolation. An employer doesn't sack someone because they got 2/5, they find out why you got 2/5, or better still, already know why you only got 2/5, and then make a judgement on if that was acceptable given all the circumstance.

    Please don't reply again, I don't want to be replying to you, going around in circles, this isn't the place for it, and I'm pretty confident no one else in the caf wants to read our too and fro.

    So we'll agree to disagree

    You can continue to judge people without knowing the facts that led to their situation.

    I will continue to reserve judgement
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    nainaisson New Member

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    The idea that Alderweireld wouldn't have vastly improved our back line is a good indication of what a complete and total imbecile Woodward is on the footballing side of things, which makes it even more sad and pathetic that he's allowed to act as the club's director of football.
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    BOLD PART: Thoughts so. Anything for the clickbait. I am disappointed with the transfer window, but I agree if someone that is not that much better than the current crop of players, especially CB, I would rather wait for United to wait until the right opportunity comes. Toby would cost "only" 25 mil come January, if the info is accurate.

    In terms of that elusive right winger and LB, probably something is happening in the background but reserved for future transfer perhaps? I, for one believe the loaning of TFM to Fulham might give United slight advantage for future transfer Sessegnon. This is of course based on nothing, just a guess.
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    Snafu17 Full Member

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    This is such a ridiculously dumb briefing. What kind of an idiot thought that would make him look good in any possible way?
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    Tosicsleftpeg Full Member

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    Can't understand why we haven't bought a fecking right winger... Anyone would have been an improvement. Maybe try shoehorn Martial in?
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    fergosaurus Full Member

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    What a shambles of a window. It's idiotic if Woody basically told Mourinho it's Varane or nothing knowing Madrid were not going to sell after an excellent World Cup. We knew what we were getting when we hired Mourinho so why are we not backing him after giving him a new contract? Yes we have to pay over the odds but that's the way the market is and we have the money to do so. Sometimes quick fixes are needed to have experienced players with the right mentality. Alderweireld would have been a big upgrade on our current CBs but we didn't even make a bid, probably because we think we can save a few pennies and get him on the cheap next year rendering this season more or less a write-off. We are run by morons.
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    podurban2 Full Member

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    Or an LB? All this shit coming out of the media through the briefing is so stupid.
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    Crimson King Full Member

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    Keane was one of the top young midfielders in the country. Who knows what the fee would translate into these days, but if something like that came up now we'd be all over it. Just like with Rooney. £12 mil was a lot for Ronaldo.

    The thing is, mind of those CB he's mentioned would come anywhere near
    I remember when the early closure was being discussed last year I saw a bit of Sunday supplement. Not sure if Samuel was on there, but I remember that pretty much every journalist thought it was a great idea at the time.

    When someone pointed out that foreign clubs could raid the EPL after the deadline they were all like ''nah, we can't get replacements so we'll just say no". Now, lo and behold, they're all saying the opposite might actually happen?!

    Honestly, what a bunch of feckers.
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    This team had much bigger problems to be solved than spending a ton of money on a CB. Does anyone really believe that Toby or Maguire would have solved our lack of goals upfront? Yeah me neither.
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    nainaisson New Member

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    It's a typical Woodward tactic: attempt to fool fans into believing you're willing to invest in the squad by bidding on an unrealistic target. The target is usually Neymar or Bale, but this time it was Varane.
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    We have a big issue where our CB’s are horrible on the ball and never drive the ball forward, this forces the rest of our players to start out attacking play much deeper, and limits our overall attacking play.
    A Varane would have helped a ton here, but sadly he wasn’t available. Toby might have helped too.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    Apart from Smalling none of our CBs is horrible on the ball. Our attacking play has much bigger issues than the CBs starting the play from deep. Anyone thinking a CB would improve our attack of any note is ridiculous. We don't have a single RW in the squad, playing Mata and Lingard there. How we haven't addressed that position is beyond me.
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    fergosaurus Full Member

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    He can't help himself. As soon as he got the gig he was going all out for Fabregas, then it was Ramos the following year.
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    First of all thank you for calling me ridiculous... Secondly Jones and Bailey are very mediocre on the ball and while not as bad as Smalling they still don’t offer enough. Lindelöf could be used but he needs a partner that can lead the defense.
    We do indeed need a new RW, but we also need a new CB. We need both.
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    Dante Bang Average but can post Blindfolded for 15 secs

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    Quite the opposite I'm judging based on facts. You're making suppositions and excuses.

    Context is a valid complaint for a single game or player transfer, but a stretch when you're using it to excuse an entire season/transfer window.

    Moyes failed to meet a satisfactory outcome over the course 38 (34) games, though I'm sure there are extenuating circumstances for every point list.

    Woodward failed to meet a satisfactory outcome over the negotiation for 5 portions with 2 or 3 targets each (so let's say between 10 and 15 targets altogether), though I'm sure there are extenuating circumstance for each deal that was missed.

    These things even themselves out over the course of whatever period you wish to choose.. For both Moyes and Ed, they evened themselves out to an picture of overall failure.

    You can say "but, but, but..." all you want. The results are what any professional is judged on.
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    No problem. Jones and Bailly are as mediocre on the ball as most of the CBs at the other big clubs in England. Do they offer enough? I think they do, but I'm old fashioned.

    I said "would improve our attack of any note" meaning it might help us improve the build up to some level, but nothing that would make a difference to our attack. RW on the other hand would, we usually play with only one functional wing, which makes us very lacking in attacking sense.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Valencia's injury halted Darmian's exit. Mourinho said we couldn't let him go until Valencia or Dalot returned and there wasn't much point in selling Rojo without bringing someone in first given Jones' fitness record. Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe needed to go somewhere to get regular football and Lindelof, Bailly, Smalling and Jones wouldn't be enough to last the season.
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    VintageWhatnots New Member

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    In any professional environment, people are judged on results, dependent upon circumstances.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    How many more times, aldy will NOT be free in a year.
    Got it? Will not be.
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    It's a 'between a rock and a hard place' situation really, according to the brief, the club don't want to spend on 'quick fixes' looking for short term success. But these 'quick fixes' are on a list of targets Jose feels will propel the club into success and as he's only here for 2 more seasons, short term success is all he can achieve. Jose can only be judged on what he achieves season to season and that's what we should be doing, you simply have to back the manager and when he's got what he wants, then judge him. We can't now sack him at the end of the season because we didn't win the league after not backing him this summer, that's just unreasonable.

    But on the other hand, if Jose had his way, we'd have got Willian for upwards £70m and Alderweireld for £50-60m, I don't think the Caf would've been happy about that, nor would I. I'm not saying Jose should trust in youth but the board are right in not being taken to the cleaners with the fees we were quoted for players that are inferior of the quality we come to expect of United players.

    Either way, the soundings coming out aren't great, Jose complaining in press conferences about the list he gave Ed, thus meaning it's on Eds shoulders if we have a bad window. Then Ed clearly briefing the press to clear his name, as we'd only pay big money for world class players in the positions Jose wanted.

    This needs to be nipped in the bud as soon as possible, it can't bubble on into the new season.
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    Giggsyking Full Member

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    Can we still sign free agents?
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    Fergie's Man Suffers Snails fetish

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    I suspect that in this instance the "Club" is Ed and he is seeking to exhonerate the "Club" at Jose's expense. I think we have seen the dirty side of Ed in this window.

    Additionally, I find it very annoying that the Club has not attempted to squash all the Mourinho bating and the rumours of discontent. I do feel he has been hung out to dry a bit.

    I am hoping that we will see a reaction to this, in a positive way, on the pitch tonight. I am hoping he unleashes fury. :nervous:
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    -Real Madrid negotiating for Thiago Alcantara.
    -They have an agreement with the player. Opposed to James or Lewandowski, Bayern is willing to negotiate.
    -The player is delighted to meet again with Lopetegui.
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    GaryLifo Nice Bloke

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    Not sure that's true. Free agents are protected from transfer window rules otherwise it's seen as restrictive work practices. At least that's how I've always understood it to be
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    Thought it was just for the lower leagues not the PL?