Trevor Sinclair: Patron of Kick It Out?

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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    Charged with drink driving and racist abuse.

    Pissed in the police van and Called the police officer a white cnut. I guess we won't be seeing him as a pundit anytime soon.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-42542180
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    Annihilate Now! ...or later, I'm not fussy Scouse Lover

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    What a twat.

    Yet another reminder that racism is really fecking stupid.
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    DannyCAFC Full Member

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    Good, he's a shit pundit anyway.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    And that it's not restricted from white to black.Twats like Sinclair demonstrate this quite comprehensively
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Silly man. I hope he learns his lessons.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    I met him a few times when he was at West Ham and he was OK, his wife/partner was something else though. Really thought she was royalty
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    MaxiPaxi likes to shove his mum's boiled eggs up his rectum

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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    As he contemplates punditry for the Blackpool Gazette
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    Yep!
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    MaxiPaxi likes to shove his mum's boiled eggs up his rectum

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    Was she as 'good' looking back then?
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    cyberman Full Member Scouse Lover

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    20 months seems a bit low.
    I got 48 months disqualified despite being stone sober because a Guard didn't know how to do her job
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    One man's meat as they say.

    Personally I never found her to be anything special.There were better looking women in the health club IMO. Her personality let her down
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    VP Full Member Scouse Lover

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    I presume I must be the only one thinking that calling someone a 'white cnut' isn't really racist?

    Racism is more about the history and pain associated with an insult rather than the insult itself. In this case, a black man calling a white man a 'white cnut' - I don't think there's really that much baggage. It's definitely rude, like calling someone a fat cnut, or mildly racist at worst.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member Scouse Lover

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    Was this the same incident that he was on Twitter claiming it was a racist police conspiracy against him a couple of months ago?
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Scouse Lover

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    Yes.

    Should be off punditry now too.
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    Can't have it both ways - it is equally derogatory and to suggest otherwise is double standards, end of.

    "Racism" per the Oxford English dictionary - Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    I can't say i'd be particularly offended by it, but to say i have less "right" to feel offended than another race is almost negative racism.



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    I think you're right but you can't ignore the intent. The fact he chose to say this means he wanted to offend the person, and deliberately chose a racially charged term to do it.
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    southlegend New Member

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    I get what you're saying, but for me I feel like we shouldn't have "levels" to racism in 2017. Especially not from someone who represents for an anti-racism charity.
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    No White text?
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    Schmiznurf Full Member

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    Ask yourself if black cnut is racist, if yes, white cnut is too.

    Racism is about being a cnut to someone because of their skin colour.
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    Black or white, a cnut has no colour.
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    VP Full Member Scouse Lover

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    It's only equally derogatory if you ignore the last 1,000 years or so of human existence.
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    That's not the issue - I'm not saying that the histories of the races are equal.

    But to single out a person on the basis of race in a derogatory manner is the very definition of racism.

    Men have had the better crack of the whip compared to women if you look back over history, but that doesn't mean that a man cannot be subjected to sexism in the here and now.
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    VP Full Member Scouse Lover

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    Hmm true and the male/female analogy is a decent one. A female throwing a sexist insult to a man (is there even one?) - would it hurt less than a man calling a woman a b*tch? It's difficult to say but I think so.
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    What an arse. You couldn't make it up.
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    It's still not right either way.
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    Calling a man a "pr*ck" or a woman a "b*tch" / "tw*t" are basically the same insult.
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    It's racist, but it's not as bad as calling a black person a black cnut in my opinion. I'm white and it's likely to roll off my back a damn sight easier.
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    I appreciate and acknowledge that as a white guy, you'd probably be less offended. But when calling someone or an act "racist" this is about the intent of the accused rather than the perspective of the person being abused.
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    Ah good old Trevor 'beating Man Utd is better than sex' Sinclair. Fair to say I didn't lose any sleep when I found out he was in a spot of trouble.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    Well I can see your point. Historically calling someone a black cnut comes with a whole weight of baggage:colonial,imperial and the whole' 'you're not even a person' label.
    Calling someone a white cnut in largely white country does have a element of response or name calling
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    You can't have someone be a patron for an anti racism organisation going around racially insulting people. You can argue calling someone a white cnut isn't the same level as calling someone a black cnut, it's a complex issue, but in this context Sinclair was clearly in the wrong and Kick it out should remove him from their team.

    I don't like him as a pundit anyway, he's shite and always gets his digs in about Utd so hopefully we don't see him on TV for a while.
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    What if the white officer he called a cnut was Irish? Seeing as though the Irish were slaves in America at one point too? Does that count as racism then?

    Think it's obvious hate breeds hate, so a black man calling a white man a white cnut will cause some retaliation from the white man, but if they both got arrested but the white man got sentenced woul that be justified?

    If what you say is correct, then everyone should be given a manual from birth, because shit gets confusing like that.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Well he won't be appearing on MOTD again. He might get pissed and call Linekar an orange cnut