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Turning your back to a shot

Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by MyOnlySolskjaer, Mar 5, 2018.

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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    Okay, I realise this is very knee-jerk. But seriously, why is this being done at professional level? Why didn't Lindelof just take the hit? Embarrassing to see this kind of goal conceded at this kind of level. It really is inexcusable defending.

    I've really had my doubts on him, he's a very clumsy player.
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    Red4Life_#7 Full Member

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    Have you ever taken a football to the face or to the balls?? (Now at professional level x the power by 3, Marlon Harewood kicked the ball directly in my face and I still remember it).

    It's only human to try to protect yourself... nearly every player turns away while blocking.... even Roy Keane who was a nutter.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    It’s not as if players do a full 180. Personally I think you take the hit but it seems to pop up a lot in all games and I wonder if maybe some think it’s to give the keeper the best view of the situation. Or is it just cowardice. Who really knows but yeah i’d Prefer they do everything they can to block it.

    I suppose it also kinda gets at least one arm out of the way so you’re at least cutting the chance of a handball by 50%
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    Pacificgi Full Member

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    Its a reaction. Id be interested to see how many defenders turn when the shots about to be hit
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    MrPooni Full Member

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    Shameful stuff.
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    Young should have been on him pressing. He wasn't close to anyone, it's his man. He just stood there and unaware of everything like he's often used to. He's got a short limit of what he's capable of defensively and it's too easily exploitable.

    As for Lindelöf, I agree. It's instinctal to do that but it's bad instinct.
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    walkinhop Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure some of it is instinctual and not a deliberate action. On another not, you should be close to the lad with the ball to block with your feet and prevent it from having a chance to hit you in the face but...who cares.
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    izec Full Member

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    for 100k a week, i would gladly let the ball hit me in the face every now and then.
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    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    A lot of the time it's purely instinct. Difficult to go against your body reacting like that.

    It's a more deliberate act when you're in the wall of a free kick, as you need to be expecting it, but when someone creates a yard and shoots, it's difficult to prepare in the same way and your body just reacts.
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    I think it's just a reaction.

    I'm sure I've seen Vida, Rio doing it numerous times through their career.

    It's just that now its legitimately hurting us.
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    You can add turning your back to a free kick to the list :lol:
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    Roger777 New Member

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    Clueless puddings the lot of em
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    Watch a still of players when they do successfully block a challenge and very often they are at least half turned as Lindelof was. There isn’t a football out there who will stand and take a ball full belt in the face knowing it’s going to him there.
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    James Peril Full Member

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    For a 100k a week, I’d let a lot of stuff hit my face every now and then
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    There a few. It's just not often you see it, and it's a really abnormal reaction to just brace yourself.

    John Terry, Terry Butcher, Tony Adams, Stuart Pearce... these kind of players... some call it bravery, others will call it utter stupidity.
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    And then Miliojevic goes and does that..
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    I have and I don't even get paid £100K a week to do it.
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    Red Stone Full Member

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    Wasn't hard enough, then.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    I wonder if that Palace player who didn’t close down Matic and get his body in the way is now wishing I wish i’d Taken that point blank on the nose.
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    Lindelof was an absolute fanny in that moment.
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    cyril C Full Member

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    For 300K a week, I would think about protecting my pretty face and my smart brain.
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    Red4Life_#7 Full Member

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    Average joe's (us) can't compare... ask yourself would you take a full wack in the face to stop a shot (without turning away) for your evening salary??

    Haha, then you should have played more footie as a youngster to make it to the level to get paid £100k a week :)

    Hahahahahahahah you are right... lucky for me :D
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    To avoid the ball hitting his hand and getting called for a penalty ?

    I didn't like his performance today at all but that wasn't my main concerns. His heading and not doing much with the ball are.
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    I remember Rio doing that a few times for us and it was annoying
    He did cut it out though
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    If you have played the game at any level, it’s increadably hard to throw ur face in front of a shot lol, your body simply doesn’t let you do it. If a player does take it in the face it’s usually cause the shot was to close or unexpected.
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    Just prior to Matic's goal, Pogba's shot attempt was taken squarely in the stomach by a Crystal Palace player, then the Crystal Palace captain (I think) turned sideways and allowed Matic's shot on target for the win.

    That tells me players know what they're doing (they're trying to avoid getting hit with the ball out of fear of the impact). Some have the balls to take the shot, some don't.

    You know who has the balls to take a shot to the face? Goal keepers. Man City's keeper blocked Lukaku's game-tier with his face, and Crystal Palace's keeper blocked Sanchez's header with his face. I don't remember ever seeing de Gea flinch in those situations, either.
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    Yeah wouldn’t blame a player for that, it’s instinctive like a reflex.
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    Its fine to turn yourself in a 180 and jump to block a shot with your arms tight to your sides. But what Lindelof did was some half hearted attempt to avoid the shot. If your going to block you cant be sideways or the balls not going to be blocked and/or its going to be deflected and wrong foot the goalie. Which is exactly what happened. Just really poor technique on Lindelof's part. In addition if you are going to block a shot you don't give the shooter that kind of space and room to wind up. Which is the other error the United defenders made. All in all , it was an embarrassing goal to concede esp vs Palace!
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    Pogba should have cut off the pass to Townsend.
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    Are you saying if I even threw a pillow at you you would take it in the face...... ohhhh errr matron.
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    Death wish? :lol:
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    Di Maria's angel Captain of Moanchester United

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    Nah, just input for this thread.
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    Think it's just reflexes tbh.
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    I don't think it's a big deal. Sure, if a defender stands face on he blocks a bigger area, but standing straight on could just as easily cause a deflection that turning side on might avoid. A defender taking one to the bollocks or face or even stomach could end up being out of action for a couple of seconds too, whereas a defender that turns their back may be in a better position to react to a second ball.

    Ultimately Lindelof looks away right as the shot as taken. It happened to go in off him this time. It means nothing in my opinion.
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Its not good, but I feel like most CBs have a couple of these over the years. I remember one where Stam deflected one over the keeper's head in the champions league

    I'm not going to hammer him for one of these, but if it becomes a pattern it wont be good enough