TV money and the Premier League

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  1. Oct 6, 2017

    notcool Banned

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    I'll explain with figures:

    Currently, the club that finishes top in the PL gets £110m from domestic rights and £40m from overseas rights, which is £150m in total. The club that finishes bottom gets £60m from domestic rights and £40m from overseas rights, which is £100m in total. We can see that the ratio between top and bottom is 1.5:1.

    Suppose that the domestic rights increase by 50% and the overseas rights increase by 100%. The club that finishes top will get £165m from domestic rights and £80m from overseas rights, which is £245m in total. The club that finishes bottom gets £90m from domestic rights and £80m from overseas rights, which is £170m in total. We can now see that the ratio between top and bottom will have changed and be 1.44:1.


    The outcome has been changed although the method of distribution has remained the same and it is clear that the balance has swung towards the smaller clubs. The top 6 clubs might only want to avert this change that they see just over the hill and the smaller clubs might be the ones that have their hands out for more money.
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    Bruno Marques New Member

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    From an outsider point of view, you generate much money because the league is awesome and you cant predict the result. All teams have lots of money and good players.

    If you go with this deal your going to kill the cow that gives you the milk. Less money > more boring teams > easy result prediction > less viewers > less money and the cycle will continue has years will be passing,
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...big-six-want-greater-share-overseas-tv-money/

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    HEAR, HEAR!

    Bayern and the other moaners created their own mess themselves. Boo-hoo.
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    Oscie Full Member

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    Based on the last deal, if the overseas TV rights were distributed the same way the domestic rights were then the highest earners last season would have earned approximately £176m rather than £146m
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    The plans to redistribute (35% of) EPL TV money to top clubs have been shelved

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...te-premier-league-television-money-top-clubs/
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    And what about based on future deals? If the overseas rights grow more than the domestic rights, with the current distribution, the difference between the top and bottom will shrink, not grow.
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  10. Oct 25, 2017

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    Just create a league of top 6 teams + whipping boys from League 1 and 2. Will teach the likes of the smaller teams in EPL a lesson.

    I don't ever watch crystal palace and never seen a fan of theirs so teams that actually pull the global audience should get more. If the top teams allow this it will eventually haunt them. Mark my words.

    Time for a breakaway league
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    FC Ronaldo Posts stuff that's been said before in tweet form

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    Mods - feel free to move this to its own thread if you need to but thought this was a continuation of this one rather than its own entity.
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    La Liga is so biased it's unreal, one thing the EPL has gotten right.
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    FC Ronaldo Posts stuff that's been said before in tweet form

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    Completely agree.
  14. Apr 16, 2018 at 11:34

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    The last thing football need is even more financial disparity between leagues and clubs.
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    Agree.

    The premier league has been pretty dire / boring and predictable this year and some other European leagues have been even worse. Lack of a title race, top 4 race or anything else in most countries. The premier league hasn’t had a decent season since 13/14 in my opinion.

    Ultimately viewing figures and the TV money will crater if the “product “ is not great entertainment. The clubs and the top European leagues have become incredibly arrogant and seem to assume broadcast revenues will rise forever regardless.

    Normal TV shows get cancelled when the public stop tuning in and the same thing can happen to football.

    Ultimately reform will only happen once there is a decline though.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    I love how their is a "top six" even though they have only been the top six for two years. And the season before that Liverpool were 8th and Chelsea were 10th. And Arsenal can still lose their spot to Burnley.
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    Cal? The Donald Trump of CR7 fans

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    Continually subsidizing our opposition. :(
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    Cal? The Donald Trump of CR7 fans

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    'The big 6' lol

    There's a big 1 in the PL.
  22. Apr 16, 2018 at 14:42

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    Top 6 has enough money. Pep and Mourinho spend 1B on Players together

    Stop this bullshit
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    Not a fan of the idea, even if my own club would be one of the biggest beneficiaries of it. We already dwarf the smaller clubs in the division financially, so there's no reason to even entertain this idea.

    That said, if it did happen, the big teams would get more money to spend on players from smaller teams, so maybe it'd balance itself out somewhat?
  24. Apr 16, 2018 at 15:30

    hellohello Full Member

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    Without an opposition there wouldn't be a league. It's the league as a whole that creates the wealth, not just a few top clubs in isolation although they have grown to become a big pull. You could just as easily argue that the league is what sustains United's wealth and argue other teams deserve more for being in the competition.
  25. Apr 16, 2018 at 15:32

    Cal? The Donald Trump of CR7 fans

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    No, that argument doesn't hold water if you look at Real Madrid, Bayern and the likes.

    The whole pie may be smaller, but 40% of the smaller pie is still much more than 6-7% of the bigger pie.
  26. Apr 16, 2018 at 16:21

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    I know that's how they divide it, but that doesn't make it right. My point is just that a big team doesn't generate wealth without the league so the arguments that the big 6 deserve more can just as easily be turned on its head. Much of the fame and fortune is owed to the competition itself and I'd like to see the wealth spread to preserve it as a competitive league as much as possible.
  27. Apr 16, 2018 at 17:31

    Cal? The Donald Trump of CR7 fans

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    We're never going to agree on this.

    I'm a United fan more than I'm a football fan, so basically, whatever benefits United I support, screw the rest of the league. ;)
  28. Apr 16, 2018 at 17:55

    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    Got to love the headline ‘Man City and the other big 6 clubs’ like City are the main attraction of the Premier League now.