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U23s - Manchester United vs Chelsea

Discussion in 'Reserve/Youth Forum' started by RedMachine03, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. Feb 16, 2018
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    RedMachine03 Poster of Articles

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    Kick off at 7pm.
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    buchansleftleg Full Member

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    Yay. Will be good to see chong and gomes in real life!
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Good to see Hudson Odoi, Sterling and Chalobah in the squad, hope at least one starts. Three of England's best young players.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Ampadu is the only kid starting. Sterling, Hudson-Odoi, Chalobah and Kyle Scott are on the bench. Obviously I want to smash Hull anyway but It'd be nice for them to get a few minutes.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Ampadu looks the business too, shame Wales nabbed him.
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    Giggsyking Full Member

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    Tahith Chong really good with his feet
    also number 2 is good with his feet
    but our GK is awful
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Not 100% yet, he's still not played a competitve game.

    Born and raised in England, Welsh mum and English dad. Kinda annoying if he picks Wales (as an England fan, in all honesty he's probably better off away from the neverending shitshow that is the England national side).
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    lysglimt Full Member

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    This United-side is a textbook example of how not to defend.
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    lysglimt Full Member

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    O'Hara isn't awful - he has been quite decent.
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    Giggsyking Full Member

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    He is boxing the ball too much,
    cant blame him for the goal though.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    This isn't on Chelsea TV, how's the game been?
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    buchansleftleg Full Member

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    Chong has impressed me so far. Good touch, passing and great movement off the ball.
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    Last few times I dared watch the u23s I've been terrified by how clueless they looked, especially in midfield and defense.

    Edit: wow, Kanchelskis is looking old
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    Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry

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    Apart from Chong the Utd players look a couple of levels below Chelsea.
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    Reece James looks an absolute beast. Surely he should be out on loan @duffer ?
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Only turned 18 a few months ago, we don't normally send them out that early.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    I think this is a problem in English football though. I'm sure Mount could have played for Vitesse last season, for example.
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    3-0. Another pasting.
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    Gomes off. Struggling to come to terms with the step up in physicality in the u23s so far.
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    so relegation it is
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    lysglimt Full Member

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    It's a joke of a side. The few players with genuine quality - look physically too weak to play at this level.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    You can get relegated from this? Youth football is so strange, it should surely just mirror the first team.
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    It was the same against Arsenal u23, just too physically strong for us, blew us off the park. The centre mid is a big let down. The players are far from good enough.
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    Most of this side is the reason we've put so much effort into reshaping our academy over the past couple of years, only 2 in that starting 11 who stand a realistic chance of breaking through to the first team are Gomes and Chong, who only moved up to the U23s a few weeks ago.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    Why would it mirror the first team? The best youth should be playing the best youth and that doesn't mirror the first teams. A number of PL clubs don't have CAT 1 academies while some Championship sides have very strong youth sides.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    I remember the Chelsea kids didn't get to try and retain their Youth Euro cup a few years ago (becasue the first team didn't qualify).
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    That is an entirely different competition. They have also since changed that since its ridiculous for that to happen. The title holders now make it in as well as 32 domestic youth champions so it no longer just mirrors the first teams but also gives spots to the best youth teams. We just beat the Serbian champions who's first team are in the 4th division.
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    buchansleftleg Full Member

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    I try and ignore the score and focus on performances....but that was very poor. Thank god Chong was on the pitch as his performance was the only positive out of that match.

    Really impressed with his ability to ghost into great positions. I think I've seen the future tonight and that makes me happy.
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    Oh Reece James, how's doing our former player btw?
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    It’s a different Reece James, a better one tbh. He plays right back for Chelsea and England at youth level.

    The other Reece James is playing for Wigan in League One.
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    Wow, CBJ played footy in a red shirt. Haven’t seen that for a while.
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    lol the Chelsea side isn't that strong either (compared with what they can put out). We really need to sort it out, especially the midfield.
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    Chong apart, the only positive to take from last nights match is.
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    Our U23 team is really bad, beside Chong and Gomes, really nothing to see. Williams can be good, and have potential.But at the end it is team game and this bunch of guys just not look like a team.

    What really worries me is that Gomes is having trouble to show talent at U23 level. Few games already, and he is not doing great. Hopefully it is still adaptation period, and also, it has something to do with the rest of the team in the midfield, but with Chong you can see potential even on this level, he is doing some things, Gomes on the other hand doesn't do much.
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    Is Sbragia's job under threat. I would hope it is.
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    Will do Gomes some good to really fight to prove his talent here. I had thought for a little while that the hype around him was a bit excessive anyway. He’s a very talented kid, but not necessarily the most talented of this English generation. I know he went into the WC with an injury, but by the end of the tournament he was out of the team. With the delay and speculation surrounding his contract, I hope he isn’t getting ahead of himself, because Chong is outshining him at the moment.
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    I don’t think it is talent levels, more his lack of physicality. He looks a bit lost in the u23s tbh, the game just seem too fast for him and at the World Cup he really seemed to struggle with the conditions and had stamina issues.

    It doesn’t help how woefully bad the u23 midfield is as he is often isolated but it’s been a. Steep learning curve so far.

    I tend to agree on the other England lads though, at least in a sense. Hudson Odoi is lightinging quick, Sancho is strong and quick enough and Foden has a great engine. These lads are currently better suited to stepping up aged 17 because of this whereas as Gomes will likely be a slower burner.

    Chong also has the physical qualities to cope with the step up too.