United fans wanting rival players to do well!?!

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  1. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:08

    Jaybomb Full Member

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    I'll never wish for Liverpool or any of our main rivals to do better than us but I'd like to see Rooney and Hernandez score a good few this season. As long as their goals don't interfere with our success.
  2. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:10

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    We lost the league to City on goal difference. Then we finished 5th on goal difference again to City which cost our manager his job. We do not play in a vacuum what other teams around us do is every bit as important as what we do.
  3. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:14

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    Yeah but we can't control what other clubs do unless we are playing them. Ultimately we have to take care of our own business to ensure success. In both the instances you cited, we could just as easily invert the argument by saying we shouldn't have drawn a game here or there.
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    I totally agree with you. I hope they both do well but that we get 12 points from Everton and West Ham.
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    Had no idea that Chicharito is in West Ham now. Wasn't he pretty good in Bayer?
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    And I agree but if I had hoped Aguero did well if he wasn't playing against us I'd have never forgiven myself when he scored that infamous goal.

    I will add that I think Aguero is an amazing player who I have a massive amount of respect for and would love him at United but want him to have an abysmal season playing for city.
  7. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:24

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    The former, easily.
  8. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:41

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    That's a weird opinion I'd say. Season is long, you'd get enough excitement in the previous 37 matches, no need to absolutely have it in last one (or last 4-5) too.
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    I guess I'm a football fan before a United fan.
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Not sure about that, but surely you can just catch some other game at the last day if United is a champion for some time now?
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    I was going to ask that question.
    For me when I watch a game my first thought is how is this going to impact United. I can totally understand people watching football and just looking at the game for it self. That's just not me, it's always about United.
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    If they are a team that play great football, probably.
  13. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:55

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    I'd still watch United even if the league was already sorted. I'd rather watch United play a friendly than watch anybody else.
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    A Welsh United fan can be a fan of Bale and wish him all the best. Nothing wrong.

    I like players like Mbappé, Dembélé even if they won't join PSG in the near future.
  15. Aug 12, 2017 at 23:41

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    Haha I'm the same mate. I want all our rivals to fail miserably. Couldn't care less about the others. I enjoyed seeing Chelsea lose because I know those 3 points could mean alot in the long run. I don't even remotely have the same dislike for Chelsea as I do for Liverpool or City but sure as hell don't want them to do well in any departement that can affect us in the long run. Cheering for a rival player I'll never understand even if it's Rooney even less so a player that has no history with us.
  16. Aug 12, 2017 at 23:50

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    Either a club or a player is closer to the heart, nothing wrong in wanting a player to do well but if you love the club more it's only natural to wish for his failure. I really like Chicharito but now that he's back in the PL I hope he fails miserably tomorrow and if West Ham was a direct rival for the title I would wish he failed miserably the whole season because I'm a United fan all the rest come second ( in football ) Love my children more than United, Wife I'm not sure.
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  17. Aug 12, 2017 at 23:53

    LennonNL Spurs fanatic from North London, nipple flasher

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    Reckon you're about 12. As I said get int bin
  18. Aug 13, 2017 at 00:00

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    I love seeing acts like this. Occupying some kind of a moral high ground of maturity and wisdom, sending all the barbarians, infantiles, and morally decayed straight to the bin, white heart bin...too soon?
  19. Aug 13, 2017 at 02:29

    LennonNL Spurs fanatic from North London, nipple flasher

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    You're an angry person too. No surprise
  20. Aug 13, 2017 at 02:59

    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    The bold is the qualifier.

    Fergie sharpened us against the best. What possible use is it to win a league against weak opposition.

    I want every talented footballer in the league to have the best season of their career, every season. It makes the overall product better.

    Nobody would ever suggest that they want the rest of the league to succeed at the expense of their own side, but my word it's a wrong-headed notion to want everyone else to play bad.

    It's truly childish to not be able to separate your own support from an overall love of the sport. Every single game I watch as a neutral I want to see every player play well. Surely nobody can watch Chelsea thinking "I hope Hazard has a stinker"?

    My dream season sees us win the league and the next 3 teams separated by 4 points and Liverpool missing out on a Champions League spot due to a last minute own goal by whomever their current fan favourite is.
  21. Aug 13, 2017 at 03:48

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    I'll always want Paulo Wanchope to do well.
  22. Aug 13, 2017 at 04:20

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    Would it bring smile to you if Morata scored a hatrick today? A header, bycicle kick, and halfway line goals.
  23. Aug 13, 2017 at 04:30

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    I would hate it because it would mean it may hurt our chance of success.
  24. Aug 13, 2017 at 04:58

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    Good, man. I thought you turned into this 'mature football fan', instead of just a 'United fan' first and foremost.

    Truth to be told, I like Morata too, and I think we should get him, AND Lukaku. But where's the fun as rivals if we're all being too nice here? :D
  25. Aug 13, 2017 at 05:08

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    I mean I would understand why someone would want Rooney to do well. He's been one of us for many many years. Same with Welback.

    The love in for someone like Morata though is plain weird.
  26. Aug 13, 2017 at 05:16

    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    Nonsense. This is as weird as "I want Utd to lose so that LvG goes" thread.
    Everyone has players whom they like. Many have a second favorite team as well. It is perfectly normal to want other players to do well.

    Apart from the obvious players like Rooney and Chicha, I like it when Aguero scores. He came for the big money, but after that has been pretty loyal to the team over the years. Very passionate.
  27. Aug 13, 2017 at 05:21

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    Exactly. But i would wish them to do well only in the matches against other top teams in league competing for title so that we have one less challenger
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    Caring more about one club than the game itself and therefore wanting everyone else to fail or underperform seems deeply sad to me.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    You're taking it way too black and white. It's simply about not wanting a player for a rival team to perform well for them. I'd be happy for many players across Europe whose the performances don't impact us if they play well.

    Why :lol: ? Is Man City your second favorite team ?

    Exactly.
  30. Aug 13, 2017 at 08:01

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    Who are you to say how people should/shouldn't support their club?
  31. Aug 13, 2017 at 08:17

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    I understand the love of football and being secretly pleased that a player or team does well but fundamentally its wrong. Its like your best friend has a really hot girlfriend. Yes its normal that you might fantasise about her and think about her late at night with some tissues. But you should know deep down its not right and you keep it locked up deep down inside. You just don't go around saying what you want to do to her and pretending that's OK. Its not. Don't have sex with your friends girlfriend and don't support the scousers or man city or wish Aguero well. Those feelings may surface. You are human after all. See a psychiatrist, take a cold shower, maybe let it run and fantasise about it late at night when your all alone. But please don't go out and say your proud of it and act like it's OK. Its not.
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    togg Full Member

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    Well, I never want rival players from the top teams to do well football wise. I can't deny I was rather miffed that Morata, Lacazette and Salah all scored on their debut. I'm now expecting Lukaku to get a brace.....!
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Err.. I do? For obvious reasons. Him and everyone else on their team. In every game they play.

    Don't despair, though. I still get some joy from footballers having a blinder in games where Chelsea/City/Arsenal/Liverpool are involved. The players on the opposing teams, that is.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Fair play.

    I just don't get that mindset. Hazard playing well doesn't mean Chelsea win every game.

    We can win the league being better than the best teams the league can offer. They don't have to be shit for us to be good.

    In my opinion, Our 99 team is the best team the Premier league has every seen. The same year Arsenal had the second best team the league has seen.

    I'd far rather win that way. No enjoyment from us running up a record points total, beating City and Chelsea who win circa 78 points and their players struggling to score 50 odd goals between them.
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    I stopped playing fantasy football for this reason. Didn't feel right cheering on Drogba during the final few games of the season when us and Chelsea were neck and neck for the title.
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    So you don't look at an ex-United player playing at another club and wish them well? Fletcher, Rio, Evra, Ronaldo, Rooney, Silva twins, Chicharito, Valera, Welbeck, they can all get fecked in your opinion, is that what you mean?

    When Lima Ronaldo scored that hat trick against us at Old Trafford, if you'd been in the ground, you wouldn't have given him a standing ovation?

    edit @walkinhop I might have misunderstood a few of your posts... are you saying you don't care about ex-United or just rival players with no affiliation to United? The latter I can understand to an extent.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Fair enough. My mindset is completely different. Winning at a canter is always my preference. Far less stressful. Feck the other teams. Don't care how they do. I want to finish as far ahead of them as possible.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Just to butt in and answer that question on his behalf. I don't get much joy from ex-players doing well. Unless it's at a significantly lower level. Because it sucks having a nagging doubt that we made a mistake in letting them go.
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    Ever? Even when Forlan went to Villareal and started banging in goals you didn't think, "good for him, glad its worked out"?
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    In 1998-99, United won the league with 79 points. Arsenal in second place scored 59 goals, with Chelsea in third place scoring 57.