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Bailly is better by far. We just a stubborn and petty manager
When was the last time Bailly had a really good performance? Honestly can't remember!
Why isn't he allowed to play himself back into form when he's clearly better than others in his position? Matic is afforded that and I can't remember the last time he had a good game.
Bailly has had more bad games then he has good for us. Not to mention his awful injury record. Why should he be allowed to play himself back into form when he's never shown he can sustain that form for a long period? Not sure what you're seeing to believe Bailly is 'clearly better'. In his time here he's probably tied with Phil Jones for most mistakes/bad games.
Matic has nothing to do with it as pretty much all United fans agree that he should have been dropped a long time ago.
Bailly individually may be better than Lindelof but he is not a team player. Bailly makes mistakes that makes the team suffer. He switches off at crucial moments or he will not hold the line or try to play offside when everyone else is trying not to and this sort of mistakes. You cannot play in CB unless it works as a team. Lindelof is much better to play as a team player.
I actually think he should be pushed up into the defence midfield player role. He will be much better than Matic in that role.
Lindelöf has been posting quite rapidly on his instagram story the last few days from Dubai. Looks like he's brought a trainer from the club, and is healing very well. He's already doing relatively intense movement exercises, and light-moderate jogging, and a very light exercise with a ball. Maybe he'll be back quicker than expected?
Bailly is better at his best and worse when he plays badly.
Lindelof is a more consistent mediocre CB. He's also better with his use of the ball regardless of Bailly's form.
Well his performance today against Arsenal was more impressive than anything the average Lindelof has managed this season
It was nice to see him back on the pitch in good shape again, had a good game!
I hope that he gets a good run in the team.
He might still be a bit too erratic for my taste atm, but if he gets a good run maybe he can improve his decisionmaking and be more calm and composed.
I've slagged him off many times but that was a serious effort from someone rushing back from injury
He doesn't suit the last ditch defending that Jose set us up for today.
Then again, nobody does.
Its actually what hes best at. Was the same at the world cup. Back off until the last pass comes in and having to get there to stop a chance or shot
It wasn't the same at the World Cup at all... Sweden are organised and have a game plan - which includes midfielders and wingers being rigid and offering protection. Our defense just drops deep, our midfield is all over the place and thus it becomes last-ditch, with people sliding all over the place to block shots etc.
He defended the box with last ditch contributions. And played some long balls from set pieces. Thats all he did at the world cup
He's been more progressive in trying to make tackles further up the pitch to stop moves at United this season.
Gave the ball away at the beginning of the game which could have been a Liverpool goal but after that he recovered and wasnt too bad.
Shaky at first, recovered reasonably well.
No it's not. Hes a defender who prefers to play higher up the pitch. Smalling is the only one in our back line who likes to sit deep.
Lindelof sits deeper than Smalling via average position, so thats completely false
Watch how they play. Lindelof's style suits having more room behind him to maneuver into. Smalling likes to face up the pitch and make clearances and interceptions. Then again you think Smalling is one of the best defenders in the league so....
Couldn't have imagined I would say it 3 months ago but he has been our best defender this season, hands down.
One of the very few positives this season so far.
Extra happy for him being a Swede and all.
Complete assumption. Look at the facts, Lindelof's average position is deeper. Smalling is faster and reads the game better, so both in practice and in theory Smalling is better defending from higher up than Lindelof.
On the ball of course Lindelof is more suited to being further forward because he has better technical and passing skills. As a defender though its Lindelof's game to be challenging for the final ball, not trying to break things up before they get to that point.
I like him, needs to be playing in a stronger backline.
Had a decent game specially considering he wouldn't have trained much given the injury..
I think he was really good yet again. By far our most calm and composed defender even if he lost the ball badly in the first half.
If he and Smalling had started I think we'd have done much better.
Everyone likes Bailly because he goes into tackles like a madman or presses up the pitch but it alwasy results in dangerous chances being conceded, Lindelöf is a much more safe and quality defender imho.
Not too bad considering back from injury and part of a totally new constellation and playing against very good forwards.iverpo had many shots today but most of them were not really any danger despite the dominance.
A rather rough mistake of Lindelof in the beginning but a solid workout the rest of the match. One of the best in the team again.
He tries to control the defense work by talking to his teammates and gesturing, I like it and it feels good that he is back after the injury.
He made sure Salah did not get much space today, well done.
Weak ass defender. Didnt deserve to start ahead of Bailly who had a better game.
In some ways Bailly had a better game, but he also made more mistakes/poor decions. Anyway, think both were decent today. If you look at the whole season Lindelof has been superior so not so strange Mourinho wanted him back as soon as possible.
Other than the lunging challenge that deflected the ball past his own keeper which was a mistake, which other mistakes did Bailly make? Lindelof had the one where he lost the ball right in front of defense too. So I can only remember 1 from each specifically
Lindelof and Bailly has positive games I thought.
Mistake was the wrong word, because he didn’t really make many mistakes. Think he was very good in that sense. But I think he made some poor decisions where he took some adventurous trips and left a big hole for Lindelof to cover. It worked much better in second half between them. As a whole, however, I think Bailly was the best United player together with DDG.
Do you not remember when he followed Firmino for like 50 yards and lost him at the halfway line, after which Liverpool countered and scored on the following set piece?
Bailly can't head the ball and he is way too rash and even if it works 2/3 times he still concedes a crazy high number of chances. He needs to be way more careful when defending if he wants to make it a top club.
He is physically impressive and is very brave but his decision making and some of his technical abilities are shocking at times.
Developing nicely, even more impressive considering it's his first game since returning from injury.
Did OK but does not inspire confidence. He doesn't clear the ball properly very often which ends up inviting more pressure on to us. Almost every defensive action he does it feels like he is just about lucky to get away with.
Wrong, they did quite equal efforts today but Lindelof seemed more stable and in addition, he communicates with the rest of the team. I hardly think I saw Bailly say a word on the plan.
Bailly will probably end up like Nani did for us but as a defender obviously. His physical attributes are damn near perfect for his position and his unpredictability is both a gift and a curse for him. It makes him fantastic in certain moments, but leaves him empty for ideas when the point is to maintain instead of gaining. If he could learn to be consistent he could be a damn near world-class player.
Can't say the same for Lindelof who not only has physical limitations for his position, he is as unspectacular as a CB can get both defensively and offensively.
Improved a lot since his early days
We have limitations in defense but we set up to rely on them constantly, exposing our weakness
I also think this season Matic is offering zero protection
Any CB needs some sort of protection and United is not getting it. They will not get it as long as Matic plays in front of them. Lidelof had a decent game and any player needs to play regularly together to form a partnership. Jose's constant chopping and changing is not going to benefit anyone.
Heard it was his 12th defence formation this season. And we got 13 in second half. Not easy for the defenders.
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