Virgil van Dijk | Performances

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  1. Apr 2, 2019

    redman5 Full Member

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    That was my first thought when reading some of the stuff written on here. Any good coach would teach you to split the attackers when faced with a 2 v 1 situation, & not commit yourself until you need to. Spurs were always going to get an opportunity to score from that situation on Sunday, but by doing what he did, VVD made sure that Sissoko had to get past him, & then the keeper, if he wanted to score. Had he gone for the ball, then the simple pass inside was on, leaving the other Spurs player with just the goalkeeper to beat. He played the percentages game. It was textbook defending.
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    Treble Full Member

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    Not true though. Last season the front 3 scored 57 league goals, this season they are on 46 with 6 games to go. They will probably reach 55. Generally, you will score 80+ league goals which will be the same return as last season. Besides, Klopp seems to have tweaked the system a bit so that you have more stability defensively wise. To equate your defensive stability with VVD's contributions alone would be naive.
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    A lot of the early pages where spent laughing at the transfer fee for a defender who is not even one of the better ones in the league, then claiming he is basically Smalling with more ability on the ball, then bumping the thread whenever there was the hint of a mistake to discuss how not-good that meant he was. Now we are at the grudging 'still not as good as vidic/rio' stage.
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    Because he knew he had a right footed player running at him who wasn't a great finisher even in the best of circumstances. Instead of it being 2v1 with the attackers dictating what happens he forced Sissoko to do the thing he least wanted to do. It's textbook defending.
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    montpelier Full Member

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    Carragher would have taken man & ball up near halfway. And not even got a yellow, (Anfield).

    Game's gone.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    Just re-read the first five pages, they are glorious in hindsight :lol: Better yet that it's mostly the usual suspects as well who couldn't seem to wait to bash him for any mistake, and still do.
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    montpelier Full Member

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    And Son should have come around to this side, Sissoko drives slightly to the right & VVD isn't where he wants to be anymore.

    Straightforward lay off to the left & Son scores comfortably.

    that's easy to say from here, obvs :D
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    He did enough to stop a 2 on 1 scoring. He put sissoko off and also stops Son getting involved (who most likely would've scored).

    It was a piece of defensive genius.
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    It's neither a bad piece of defending nor the piece of genius that some would have you see it as.

    He knows Sissoko is shite at striking the ball. He has scored ONE goal in 82 league appearances for us, for a midfielder that is beyond dreadful. Even Dembele who had horrible striking technique managed to grab a few. It's not rocket science to process that Sissoko getting a shot on goal is better than Son getting one off. He also knows that Sissoko isn't used to this kind of situation so will panic, like he did. You could see Sissoko was desperate to play the pass and was not confident taking it on himself.

    I guess it's impressive he processed this in a tense situation, but he's a professional footballer and will know the top PL sides inside and out. Sissoko being crap at shooting is one of the eternal truths of life.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    I think you're missing a point here. You forgot to add the relentless praise he was receiving, and still is I might add, at every little accomplishment on the pitch - case in point. The OTT criticisms only reflect the OTT praise a rival player has continuously received in this thread. Only 8 of our players performance threads are longer ffs.
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    To be fair, I was one of the ones who said this and it wasn't meant as an insult.

    I was one of the very few who wanted him from Soton, and thought the fee Liverpool were paying would be more than worth it when everyone else was laughing. His talent was as obvious as it comes. However, Smalling himself is a very good defender whose ball playing abilities let him down so, from a defensive POV, I did see similarities. I still do a bit, but van Dijk has obviously gone to an even higher level defensively since I said the initial comment.
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    United fans won't like this but IMO he's been at least as good as Vidic/Rio this season, the only thing they have over him is that they did it over numerous seasons, but if he keeps this level up for a couple more seasons he'll definitely be viewed on the same level as those two.

    If you win the league he will win POTY and absolutely deserve it, honestly even if you finish a tight second the award should probably go to him. He's been unbelievably good.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    It might help him that there's not a standout #1 at City if they win the league. B. Silva, Sterling and Aguero are all deserving of a mention imo.
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    Fernandinho too, he's been excellent.

    Van Djik has definitely been the standout player for your lot, but Robertson hasn't been all that far off. That many assists for a left back while being defensively solid as well is so impressive, extremely jealous as you have the left back position sorted for a while now.
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    Never seen so much arse-licking than on Sunday with the Sissoko chance. He got caught initially then Sissoko still managed to get a shot away and only because he’s so shit did they not score. Yet apparently it’s some amazing piece of defending? Completely made up. Earlier in the game the Spurs defender blocked both Salah shooting and passing to Mane and doesn’t get a mention. Proper embarrassing.

    Good player but why the ridiculous over-hyping? To say he’s better than Rio is one thing but he has genuinely been up to a similar standard for one season, but to start saying he’s the best player in the world and the utter nonsense these clown pundits come out with...Christ. I think it’s a mixture of the fact he has made such a difference given how shit they were before so he looks like a godsend, and the fact there is a general overreaction from pundits at anything these days.

    When he’s lifting his 5th premier league like Nemanja after being the best defender on the planet for 6 years I’ll sit up and listen. But his career doesn’t even compare with Phil Jones.
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    TBF, Vidic played in a side that never had to achieve 90+ points just to be in with a chance of winning the league.
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    Matip had to go with with Kane, none of the midfielders followed Sissoko's run
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    Pretty much, but it’s a Liverpool player so what do you expect? Embarrassing arse-licking is par for the course every time they do anything decent, which is why even neutral fans don’t want them to win the league.
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    Sounds crazy but I do think a lot of the pundits and commentators (e.g. Tyler and Linekar) love it when Liverpool are doing well because of the nostalgia of it. Brings back memories of the 70s and 80s.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    He was in no man’s land and way too far off Kane. Either get him fouled before he gets a pass off or back off and cover. Matip did neither, hesitated and was in a useless position.
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    Liverpool's stats from last year, when he was still finding his feet and a bit error prone.

    With him in the team (26 games)
    For: 69 goals scored / 2.65 goals per game
    Against: 22 goals conceded / 0.85 goals conceded per game
    GD: +47
    Points per game: 2.27

    Without him in the team (12 games)
    For: 15 / 1.25
    Against: 16 / 1.33
    GD: -1
    Points per game: 1.33

    Pretty impressive.
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    Salahs goal tonight and how the Southampton defender reacted to it. How was it different from the Sisokko chance from Sunday

    The defender did almost the same thing VVD did last Sunday.
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    frodly New Member

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    He let Salah get the shot onto his stronger foot, while Van Dijk forced Sissoko to take the shot on his weaker foot. That is a massive difference.
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    Sissoko had enough space and time where he could have shifted the ball on his right leg only that Sisokko was not ready to shoot
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    Sissoko is absolutely useless and a donkey infront of goal. Salah actually knows how to kick a ball. Thats the difference.
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    Dirty Schwein Has a 'Best of Britney Spears' album

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    VVD blocked out Son, who is much more likely to score, letting Sissoko take the shot knowing he's not exactly prolific.

    This was different as Salah had goal scoring pedigree.
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    The Southampton defender tried to copy the best defender in the europe, but there is a reason Van Dijk is the best defender in europe and the Saint is not.
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    Exactly. Big difference and shows even though its easy to say what should be done, its much harder to actually do it.
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    The only argument to be made there is whether Ince gave Sutton enough shit for that comment.

    Personally, I'd have to watch it before deciding one way or the other.
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    Can23 New Member

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    The argument would last a few seconds, because it's quite obvious as brilliant as he is, he isn't the 3rd best player in the world.
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    Bergman New Member

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    Who do you reckon it is then?
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    Virgil van Dijk’s game by numbers vs. Chelsea:

    100% defensive aerials won
    100% tackles won
    90% pass accuracy
    5 ball recoveries
    5 clearances
    1 interception
    1 assist
    0 fouls
    0 goals conceded
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    Wonder what Matips stats were like
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    If all star players are available, you think VVD would be the 3rd most picked player in the world? Over Mbappe, Neymar, Hazard, Aguero, Sterling, KDB? Not a chance. Even Salah would be more wanted than VVD. He's a CB and Liverpool's defence is solid because of the defensive shift of the whole team, not only VVD. You've conceded 12 league goals in 2019 which is about the 3rd or 4th best defensive record since the start of the year.
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    He got done for strength by RLC once, which I was absolutely gobsmacked about. Fair fecks to ruby, but other than that, another dominating performance.

    still don’t know why he didn’t give giroud a go against him. Higauin was a body in the right position, but he was pretty shite otherwise.
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    That RLC challenge i don't think VVD expected him to make it. His biggest weakness right now is his own attitude, on occasions he acts way too casual and few times it's almost cost us.
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    The strikers are clearly avoiding him. Seems to win every duel currently. If he can keep up this level for another two years or so he'll rightfully be regarded as one of the best center backs the league has seen
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    Lash Full Member

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    Yeah, but I think it’s kinda part and parcel of his composure. Rough with the smooth and all that!
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    GeorgieBoy Full Member

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    Guy is incredible! Physical and intelligent.
    Not sure if its recency bias or me just being a bitter United fan; but I don't ever recall Rio/Vidic getting the sort of 'love in' VVD is getting? He still needs to perform at this level and win things for a few more years to be compared to the aforementioned IMO.