Virgil van Dijk | Performances

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  1. Apr 14, 2019

    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    There were more quality CB's around in the days of peak Rio - Vidic. If one of them played today, they'd get the same hype if not more. It's just an overall weak era for CB's at the moment, therefore Van Dijk stands out.

    Nevertheless, he's been immense for Liverpool.
  2. Apr 14, 2019

    KirkDuyt Full Member

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    Think its also the increase in global exposure in general.
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    Trizy New Member

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    For some reason when ever Liverpool are mounted a title challenge (League or CL) the media goes into a frenzy singling out one of their players for a love-in.

    Last year it was Salah.
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    KirkDuyt Full Member

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    And that's just because they're shite and them mounting a real challenge is big news :D
  5. Apr 15, 2019

    Makalakalele New Member

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    Well he did break the PL all time goalscoring record so it wasn’t exactly unwarranted
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    Raw Full Member

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    I think it's largely due to the fact that he was brought in and immediately fixed Liverpool's defensive issues and turned them into proper title challengers. Okay, it's not all because of him (signing Fabinho, the rise of Gomez and Trent, having a keeper that isn't shite, generally being more defensive than last season) but he's become one of the top 3 CBs in the world IMO so I'm not surprised about the love in he's getting. Rio and Vidic were brought into a team that was already used to winning trophies every season, and their impact wasn't immediate.
  7. Apr 15, 2019

    hasanejaz88 Full Member

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    What? We were crap in the three years preceding Vidic arriving (not including his first 6 months). Him and Evra certainly played a huge role in revitalizing his and their impact from turning us from a team on the decline to the best in the Europe was massive.
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    Raw Full Member

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    Well I meant that United had already won the big trophies fairly recently anyway, and their impact wasn't immediate unlike VVD. If we'd have gone 30 years without a title and only won 1 League Cup in the last 13 years, then bought a player that immediately turned us into a title favourite then I'd expect the same amount of love in.
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    gibers Full Member

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    Best CB i've ever seen in the EPL.

    Only defender that can match him this season is Pique.
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    Trizy New Member

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    Terry, Rio, Stam and Vidic? Nope.
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    Tostao_80 New Member

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    Bit of hyperbole there. Terry, VIdic and Rio had multiple seasons of world class defendefe. How many has VVD had? :nono::nono:
  12. Apr 15, 2019

    R'hllor Full Member

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    Dancfc Full Member

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    Even more so given Giroud is one of the few strikers if not the only one that seems to give him a hard time for some reason, before the return game at SB i think he scored in his previous 4 against him (Chelsea/Liverpool, France/Holland and Arsenal/Saints x2).
  14. Apr 24, 2019

    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    Apparently he's won Players' POTY.

  15. Apr 24, 2019

    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    Can't say it's not deserved to be fair.
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    Handré1990 Full Member

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    Deserves it imo. He has that air of class about him. Their best player.
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    11101 Full Member

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    Yep deserved. Others at Liverpool are equally good players but he's the one who has turned them into title contenders.
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    Grande Full Member

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    It’s very irritating.
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    Wiltord02 Full Member

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    Deserved. However i do think the comparison to past years top level defenders is sometimes a bit over the top. No doubt he is very good but the lack of solid defenders in the premiership really makes him stand out.
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    Man-United Full Member

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    Very deserved.
  21. Apr 24, 2019

    Buchan has whacked the hammer to Roswell

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    Meh. Aguero has been sensational in City’s vanquishing of the ten-point cushion Liverpool had over them in December and their run to the top of the table. I think he’s more deserving of the award than van Dijk.
  22. Apr 24, 2019

    B20 HEY EVERYONE I IGNORE SOMEONE LOOK AT ME

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    Can't remember the last time a centreback was this dominant and influential for his team.

    Still the only defender in the top five leagues in Europe who hasn't been dribbled past yet this season. And the defender who wins the most duels in the Premier league to boot.
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    Handré1990 Full Member

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    Always hear this and disagree. He is class. Not slow, incredibly strong (does he ever lose an airial duel?), good technique, scores goals and doesn’t panick under pressure. I’d say he’s on Vidic’s level, maybe even better.
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    remo New Member

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    Deserved, I think he is one of the best CB in the world. His price was the same as Bailly + Lindelöf, oh well - it's too late.....
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    Can23 New Member

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    Wasn't really a 10 point cushion, City had a game in hand which they won and then their next game was us which they won so it was down to 4 points.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    City could win the league without Aguero. Our title challenge would fall apart without Van Dijk imo.
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    Buchan has whacked the hammer to Roswell

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    Nah, I’m not having it. Klopp plays three defensive midfielders to protect the centre of your defence (with his full-backs playing high) and it’s no longer so easy to get at you compared to previous years under Klopp. Van Dijk is good but he’s not the reason you’re challenging for titles. Salah was your stand-out last year and scored for fun and now he’s dropped off to a more realistic level, Mane is your best threat.

    (Van Dijk doesn’t look as good for Holland, for example, as they don’t play three DMs to protect their defence.)
  28. Apr 24, 2019

    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    He was dribbled past at least 3 times that I can remember without even searching.

    Dribbled past is not exactly what it means, its just a stat for not losing a tackle.
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    RooneyLegend Full Member

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    Kompany not so long ago.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Completely deserved. One of the best peaks I've ever seen from a defender. The question is how long he will be able to maintain his current level.
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    BobbyManc Full Member

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    Apparently Kompany's not been dribbled past in his thirteen Premier League games this season. It also says he's only attempted twelve tackles in all those games, I find that very hard to believe. I'd take these stats with a pinch of salt. WhoScored are seriously claiming that Kompany and van Dijk combined in the Premier League have not had an opponent dribble past them this season.

    Anyway, well deserved award. He's been ridiculously consistent this season and he is testament to the ability of a truly world class defender and leader to transform a defence.
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    AJ10 Full Member

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    No Idea what you're on about there, it never happened. :rolleyes:
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    Coin toss between him and Sterling really. Stupid that it's voted for in March though, are they doing the voting by carrier pigeon or something?
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Sterling went past with ease vs VVD, then Sane won penalty against Liverpool at Anfield when he dribbled past VVD, Rashford also dribbled past him in Anfield game.

    It's a nothing stat, it's just a stat for losing a tackle. CBs usually makes less tackles so they don't lose many tackles. For example Wes Morgan was dribbled past just once, Lascelles was dribbled past only 3 times in PL this season and Luiz just 5 times. Fiorentina defender won almost twice as many tackles as VVD and was dribbled past just 7 times.

    Wes Morgan is probably in top 5 CBs in the top 5 leagues if we consider dribbled past. It's just a stat for 'losing a tackle', not actually playing going past them.
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    Mark_Barca Full Member

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    Had a very good season but my god he's extremely overrated. Seen a comparison today with Mustafi who has more tackles and interceptions. Better stats this season!

    Media make it out he is the sole reason for Liverpool's improvement ignoring full backs have been great, GK has helped and Matip/Gomez have been good as well. I would argue Matip has been more impressive lately for Liverpool.

    Sterling or Silva should have won.
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    Minimalist New Member

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    Personally I think it's laughable it's not Sterling but whatever. The Liverpool love-in continues.
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    Mark_Barca Full Member

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    Yet keep a clean sheet and were comfortable against Bayern without him?

    It would fall apart without Robertson or the GK as well.
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    Gio ★★★★★★★★

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    Right decision.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    Perhaps. I haven't seen enough of us without Van Dijk this season to have an accurate idea of how we'd do.

    I'm assuming we'd be worse off just because of how well he organizes us. Alisson we're obviously reliant on because his back up is Mignolet.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    It's the best unit in the league and he has been the standout player in it - I'm not sure what's so hard to understand here. I could just as easily argue that Sane could replace Sterling and City would be no worse off.

    Refreshing to see it given to a defender.