Wenger: the man, the mystery

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    JayWalker Ball Spotter

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    That on top of making around 60 mil in player sales, 60 mil they could have made in June/July and utilized.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    And they don't have to wait long. He is posting utter garbage and expecting sympathy on a fecking United board. Beggars belief.
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    Spoony The People's President

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    Yep, and his frustrations should be aimed at Arsenal's board and Wenger, not United fans on Redcafe. Although, it's sad seeing them in this predicament, because they're a proper club unlike Chelsea and City. We're going to find City a tough nut to crack, they've got a bottomless pit of cash.. but as someone said, he didn't exactly show any sympathy for Spurs getting slaughtered by the Berties, so he's clearly a hypocrite...one who should look closer to home.
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    Hectic Moderator

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    He wanted us to have some regret about beating arsenal 8-2. That's epic stuff really.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    The Sunday Times today states that he has £80 million in the coffers.
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    You know what - I want to disagree, I want to defend Wenger against that post, but I really can't. History is proving that the 04 side was dismantled far too quickly, and it's difficult to argue that the over 30s policy is ludicrous. The only thing I can take issue with is Flamini, which I don't think was anyone's fault really. I imagine Pete will embrace taking this post apart though.
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    Hectic Moderator

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    Pete has probably taken himself apart already alastair.
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    Team Brian GB Baby Cameron loves X-Factor

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    £150 Million over three years, plus they report every September so the next figures will arrive shortly.


    Irrespective of whether you believe the Wenger line or the board line, it will have gone to dividends. Whilst Arsenal charge absurd ticket prices.
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    alastair ignorant

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    I'm not asking for sympathy, I'm saying that watching Arsenal become shite isn't great for football when the team that takes their place at the top table is Man City who are only there because they've spent £400m. Not really that controversial.
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    Ole's_toe_poke Ole_Aged_Slow_Poke

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    TBH he's accomplished the opposite. I had a tinge of sympathy for the Arsenal kids and fans who must feel shattered.

    After reading Alastair's ramblings though.....
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    Spoony The People's President

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    But I'm sure you'd rather they win the league than United.
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    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    Genuine question but are the over 30s policy and the situation of Flamini and Nasri Wengers fault or are they decisions made by the board?
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    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    Yet watching the same City, who've spent that same 400million, battering Spurs is brilliant.
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    Congratulations to Arsenal for scoring more than 1 goal at OT in the Premier League era.
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    alastair ignorant

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    United every time for me. Two horse race between you and Chelsea - you lot for me. That only changed when you were up against Liverpool because they hadn't won it for ages and I quite liked Benitez. This season, I'm 'supporting' United for the title all the way.
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    Bollocks, you'll be supporting your true love; Liverpool!
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    MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits

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    The trouble is Arsenal are going to need to run to stand still. Van Persie will have a year left on his contract next summer and that'll be their last world class player on his way, like Nasri this year.

    I'm not saying that they definitely won't make the top four this year, as there's a long way to go, but if they don't, I can't see them attracting the kinds of players needed to plug all these gaps.
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    Jopub From Barca to Orient - back down to earth with a b

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    He can try, but it wont wash.

    It's so fking obvious how wrong Wenger has been with all this - for years
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    The over 30s I think is Wenger. Flamini was no-one's fault - we actually tried to sell him before, then he had an excellent season, and left. I blame the board for Nasri given we redid about 15 contracts and managed to leave him out.

    Christ - brilliant at the time, depressing later on when you realise the bigger picture.
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    Even Merson had more of a clue today than Wenger!
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    Spoony The People's President

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    Fair enough, Alastair...and for it's worth there's a lot you say that I agree with...but asking United fans not to be ecstatic after beating they're biggest on pitch rivals for the best of two decades isn't fair. As I said, your frustrations should be aimed at the board and Mr Wenger. No one else.
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    MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits

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    Their.
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    Yes, the biggest problem being getting back into the Top 4 with the level of competition in the league. Teams will continue to strengthen.
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    Spoony The People's President

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    Racist.
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    Is this the right place to congratulate the Arsenal ladies on winning the championship?
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    JayWalker Ball Spotter

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    This.
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    Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006

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    it was 'at the time' when you were so surprised at Utd fans doing it, and at least it was our teams result.

    If it's depressing in hindsight why wouldn't you have considered that in advance? Surely in a competition between a team with history like Spurs and money rich City you'd have been rooting for Spurs? It'd be better for football like.....
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    Fair enough. And my frustration is aimed entirely at the board and Wenger - it increases daily because I don't know who deserves the blame more.
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    Excuse my interference pops

    Flamini was on £25,000 a week and wanted double as Cesc got a raise to 80+
    Not unreasonable considering the season he had just had. Milan and Juve put £90,000 on te table and left him to think about it. Wenger knew this and left it and by the time talking came Flams decided to fk off

    We saved that £25,000 a week - which of course made it easier to pay the much better Eboue his £40,000 :rolleyes:!

    Jesus fking wept
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    Arsenal weren't involved in the game - I laughed because Spurs were getting battered on their own patch, but we had nothing to do with it. If we'd have been the ones doing it, I'd have been salivating over how wonderful we were. Given we weren't involved, my focus was on Spurs.

    And in answer to your second paragraph, it's difficult to think straight when you're watching a game, as I'm sure you're aware. FWIW, let's say Arsenal finished second this year, and Spurs won the league. I'd prefer that to Arsenal finishing second and City winning the league. Strange, but true.
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    bloody ell.

    no wonder you hate him.

    just irresponsible.
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    MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits

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    Why weren't you supporting Spurs today then? Oh that's right, because you're talking complete bollocks.
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    Seriously? Flamini was on 25K a week? Christ.
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    Piers Morgan was on FOX Soccer after the game in the US..he absolutely ripped Wenger. Basically said he needs firing ASAP.
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    Because you can't bring yourself to support Spurs in a one-off game, because it's human nature not to. It's like how a lot of United fans would never support Liverpool in any match, but wouldn't want them to go down, because they love the rivalry. You might not get that being from London.
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    at least he was honest.
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    Lance Uppercut Loves turn based games

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    Not the first time he has said that. Of course, after the first time, he then followed up with a cringeworthy apology some time later.

    Good thing nobody gives a feck what he thinks.
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    Come on alastair mate. If you'd won at Old Trafford and the score at whl was still the same, you'd still be laughing at us now.

    It seems to have only become less of a laughing matter once you'd been trounced just as badly by the other Manchester team.
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    Football365 summed it up well, the biggest damnation for Wenger today wasn't the 8-2 scoreline, or the shambolically disorganised team he sent out today, but SAF's sympathy in admitting he just wanted us to stop scoring.

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