What constitutes a good 2018/19 season for United?

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    Feed Me I'm hungry

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    I can’t see us overcoming the massive deficit to City, but would personally be happy with a narrowing of the gap to a respectable distance: 5 points.

    It would also be lovely to see a clear tactical development with United playing with some consistent and effective attacking patterns: Over 80 goals in the league.

    Winning a cup would obviously add a lovely sheen, and as seen with Liverpool, there’s zero reason why we can’t have a better go in the CL. At the very least, we need to win one of the domestic pots.

    Would that be successful progress?
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    Igor Drefljak Definitely Russian

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    Better run in the champions league
    Close the gap
    Be entertained
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    Magnus Another mad swede

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    Mbappe is all we need plus an attackminded manager. Bring back the 70s kind of football
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    Feed Me I'm hungry

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    You’re pretty much of the same view as me.

    Do you have confidence that Mourinho can deliver on these points?
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    Hansa Full Member

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    This. I don't really care if we get tonked from time to time, I'd just like to experience a bit of excitement and joy on a regular basis. This past season almost made me fed up with football in general.
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    Igor Drefljak Definitely Russian

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    1 and 2 yeah.
    I can't see City scoring as many points, so Mourinho could deliver a similar season and the gap be closer.
    CL, I think he'll learn from his mistakes
    Entertainment. Probably not
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    Feed Me I'm hungry

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    Mbappe isn’t realistically going to happen. I think we are only a good right winger short of having a very talented and complete set of attackers. The building blocks are in place, but they need to be better utilised. Biggest fear for me is that we won’t strengthen the full back areas, which will ultimately kill us. All the top teams recognise the importance of this area, except United it seems.
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    LawCharltonBest Enjoys watching fox porn

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    Don't care if we finish 4th and win feck all. Just make me look forward to every match and score loads of goals
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Recapture the form in the first 10 games of 17/18, and sustain it for the whole season.

    We'll be a lethal counter attacking team, we'll challenge for the league, we'll go deep in the CL, we'll score a bucket load of goals.
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    Every year we keep talking about progress, progress, get closer, win the year after. I'm tired of it.

    We need to win the league or take it down to the wire. Anything other than that is failure, especially if we're going to be sitting through awful football which I think is a given.
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    Yeah, City will realistically drop to 90-95 points, and United should look to avoid some of the ridiculous dropped points such as losing at home to WBA, bringing us towards the 90 point mark.

    If you look at Jose’s best teams, they’ve been brutal on the counter. We need our attackers to be more ruthless to make this happen. Sadly, the likes of Martial and Rashford too often make the wrong decision. That’s why I can see us going for a Willian type player.
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    Mourinho must win the Premiership this coming season with entertaining football. I think he is danger of been shown the door if he doesn't win either the premiership or at least reach the Champions League final this season.
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    ZlatanEra New Member

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    Winning trophies. That's all matters. Couldn't give a feck if all goals scored were from a Smalling long ball deflected off Lukaku's arse. It's ridiculous in this thread we're talking about beautiful football and winning nothing. That's an Arsenal mindset.
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    buckooo1978 Full Member

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    to play good football

    to compete

    simple as that for me
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    I think that's an unfair demand, and this is coming from someone who has been a consistent critic of his this season. City have a superior squad and coach (yeah, come at me), and they aren't going to stand still while we try to catch up. I expect Liverpool to improve further (riding a wave of confidence + some very good recruitment it seems), and Chelsea will be a dark horse depending on their new manager. And entertaining football has never really been his strength or focus. He's basically doomed if our board had these expectations.

    For me, significant improvements in terms of football quality and entertainment, while maintaining similar results and avoiding another embarrassing CL exit would be...okay. Decent if we win a cup or two. I don't expect us to win the league or reach the CL finals.
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    A genuine title challenge and qualification to the knockout stages of the CL where Mourinho must be competitive and brave, which didn’t happen against Sevilla.
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    A “good” season and nothing more would be another top 4 finish - that’s about as much as we could reasonably hope for.
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    He certainly needs to change his tactics and play entertaining football ( especially against the top 6). My opinion is, if he doesn't win the premiership this season or at least be
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    I've been told winning is all that matters. So win the league.
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    Title challengers and hopefully a cup or two.
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    United had one of the best records against the top 6 last season?
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    I think that in most games a 3-5 2 formation would suit us better, if we had 2 wing backs( proper defenders) who could run at defenders and cross the ball properly.
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    We lost against Spurs, Chelsea, and City (in our own ground,) and Drew at Liverpool by playing defensively.
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    If you're waiting for more than 80 goals at the end of the campaign, you'll probably be disappointed. Not only because Mourinho's title-winning EPL sides were always very consistent in what they needed in the attack (72/72/73 goals in 05/06/13 respectively) in order to succeed but also because scoring over 80 goals is no small feat in itself. United have achieved that six times in twenty-six seasons under Ferguson and we have lost the title in half of these occasions (and no, i'm not comparing Fergie to Mourinho, i'm just stating the facts).

    a) Better match rhythm in general against sides that want to slow everything down and defend with ten men behind the ball b) not being afraid to play a game at a higher tempo whenever the opposition tries to force things and more willing to make use of our own weapons more often c) much better transitions and generally more aggressiveness and urgency on the ball, these are the things i want to see. And i'm not asking for anything out of the ordinary since these are qualities all good Mourinho sides had.

    Other than that, a better CL campaign and at least one interesting clash against Europe's finest and a PL campaign again over 80 points but this time much closer to 90 points. I'd say a proper title challenge but with Pep you never know and Mourinho himself has said that if City repeat their last campaign in England, we will not be able to compete with them.
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    Di Maria's angel Captain of Moanchester United

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    We also beat every one of them.
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    Giggsyking Full Member

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    ELP or UCL titles
    anything other than that is a failure.
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    More like the first 3 games. As the first 10 games include dire preformances vs Stoke, Soton and Huddersfield. Not that already the 2nd game wasn't dire till the last 10 minutes, mind.

    Anyway, better not perputuate the myth that United were great in the first few games of last season. We weren't except for brief periods - the last 10 minutes of the games or so. And it showed itself in the next games. As was suggested by "negative" posters already in August/September.

    Re: the OP. Only a big title could justify Jose's boring aproach to football. It is an approach that is supposed to work quicky. The notion that we'll close the gap over 2-3 seasons under Jose is delusional.
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    Challenge for the title, win a trophy, not be depressing to watch.
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    Winning the league and a decent CL run.

    Not asking for much, I know.
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    Agreed. Arsenal and Liverpool are the serial winners of these "moral" trophies.
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    I will be happy with a proper title challenge. A title challenge where it's not decided till the last two match week at least.

    Go further in the UCL. At least semi finals.

    Be more clinical against the lower half teams.

    Go deep in the other two cups. At least semi finals.

    I don't expect the title or other cups like it's our birth right, but as long as we give a good account of ourselves, I'll be happy. We should've beat Sevilla at the least last season.

    Good season hinges on a good transfer summer. As long as we bring the right people in and make the team more balanced, I'll be happy.

    The last two years we've been heading in the right direction for the most part. I hope it continues.
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    Shaun Oldman Banned

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    To finally get off my seat..... To feel that excitement on the way to a game.

    To see our forwards play like the good players they are, and not frightened, overworked has beens (Sanchez) or never will be's (everyone else).

    To see the team walk out with chests puffed out, ready to go to war.
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    Winning the league or champion's league, anything other and we need a new manager and direction. No more excuses, enough money and time has been given to Jose. It's time to deliver and no matter how entertaining the football it's irrelevant, United need to be winning major trophies again. Standards need to be high. The only progress from finishing second is winning it. If Chelsea and Man City can win this league so can United. We are going to turn in to an Arsenal if we don't win it soon. Happy with top 4 and a second tier trophy. He's had enough transfer windows to get it right. He has nobody left to blame if it doesn't happen. He gets this season with me and that's all he deserves.
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    Avoid relegation
    Qualify for the League Cup next year
    Atleast one shot on target in 50% of our games.

    Dont let me down, United.
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    Close the gap on City, improve on last season's pts total and finish ahead of the rest of the chasing pack once again
    A trophy of sorts (most likely FA Cup or League Cup)
    Better run in the CL (i.e. further and/or don't lose to a team like Sevilla, if gonna go out only to one of Europe's elite)
    All-round improved attacking displays
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    - Properly competing for the league
    - Scoring more goals
    - Putting teams away convincingly with more complete performances
    - No drama with players and manager like last season
    - A much better run in the CL
    - A win at Stamford Bridge
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    AndersB New Member

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    Well don't you sound like a ray of sunshine. Let's not get carried away with positivity here
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    Compete for the Title, only closer this time.
    At least a Semi final run in the Champions league.
    A FA Cup or League cup win (Not Necessary, but would be nice).
    A more ambitious approach in the bigger games. Think we are fine against smaller teams as it is.
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    You're asking for far too much with the bold. The last time we won at the Bridge was when Di Matteo was manager!