What do we still need? Post Summer 2017 edition

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Devil may care, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Nov 21, 2017

    Dion Full Member

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    Why on earth would you think posting something like that was worthwhile?

    And Pereira is doing decently at Valencia.
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    It will be interesting to see if Mourinho's view of what is needed alligns with the Caf and if he's backed with the money to make it happen, I think if he chooses younger targets he'll find the purse strings loosen easier.

    I'd like to see us address both fullback positions but I wouldn't be surprised if we only buy a LB and Mourinho staiates his love of dogged older pros and rotates Valencia and Young at RB.

    I'd like to see two top attackers added but it wouldn't surprise me if we only get one and if he's versatile enough to cover two positions, or we'll get one and Ozil on a free.

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    I've put Rose in, not because I want him or Ozil for that matter, I just think we'll end up with them.
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    Agree with this. Priority is LB then number 10 and then Pogba back up.
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    Buy Pulisic as well as Fabinho and Savic. Three gettable players.

    Lukaku/Rashford/Martial/Pulisic/Mata - 5 top players for 3 positions. All very different.

    Matic/Pogba/Savic backed up by Tuanzebe/Fellaini/Herrera - everything you need and ample cover for injuries. Throw in McTominay in case of a crisis. Possibly Perriera, too. Pogba's the best crosser in the side, so giving him free rein from that position would give us a lot of threat.

    Fabinho/Valencia/Rojo/Young as fullback options - leftback doesn't need to be too adventurous in that formation, but Young can do it if necessary. Fabinho would contribute as a playmaker when pushing into the middle third from rightback. Given that none of the front 3 are good at controlling the tempo, an extra passer from the back will be necessary for our transitions.

    Jones/Bailly/Smalling/Lindelof as CBs - I have faith in them.

    DDG/Romero as GKs - both great options.

    4-3-3 is the only way to get Mourinho's required balance into the lineup. Each partnership and unit in that side has world class qualities. As a team, I think they'd tear it up.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Savic? Do you see him as a 10?
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on @MyOnlySolskjaer. But, four class players in the four positions we need? Meh, too logical.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    You are one of the few who think we should sign a RB, but no LB..... wait....... hold on....... I can't find another person - you are all alone man.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    I don't really like the look of a midfielder in a front three and him being Soler makes it even worse for me. Rather stick with Pereira and Mata.
  10. Nov 21, 2017

    M4nu4Life Full Member

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    Midfield cover for Pogba. We are shit without him.
    A right winger.
    Two new full backs. Shaw needs replacing and young won't last forever.
    A young defensive mid.
    A replacement for Fellaini if he leaves.
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    Soler plays that role like Beckham or Koke, his delivery is excellent and he can tuck in and be the 3rd midfielder when we want to control posession, plus he can act as cover for Pogba in the CM role if needed, something we lack right now.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    I like soler, But what about fabinho?
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    Ozil is already the third midfielder in that formation. Ozil, Pogba and Matic are more than good enough to control a game that you don't need to sacrifice a wide man for a midfielder.
    Koke, Beckham and Soler at Valencia all play(ed) wide in a 442 which is entirely different to a wide role in a 4231.
    We don't need to spend a ton on a young midfielder only to play him as a wide forward, especially when we have a very capable Pereira.
    As Pogba's back-up, it is understandable, but in that position you put him, I hope not.
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    I think a clear out of the deadwood is long overdue. No manager has had the balls to undertake the required clearout so I would love the opportunity to do so. This is my proposal:

    In: Manolas (free), Tah (22m), Ghoulam (free), Fabinho (50m), Jorginho (40m), Fekir (50m), Leon Bailey (40m)

    Out: Blind (15m), Darmain (15m), Shaw (20m), Smalling (25m), Miki (25m), Mata (15m), Lingard (15m)

    Gross Spend of 202m and net spend 72m. We normally spend 150m gross with zero sales so my proposed net spend is actually 78m less than normal. The remaining 78m could be spent on Laporte or Lemar or Sandro or saved for the following year.

    The squad would have alot more depth and quality. There would be plenty of quality options to cover injuries to CBs and CMs. There would also be alot more pace and technical ability across the board. We would also save a ton off our wage bill by selling so many players.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    Ozil can not operate in a 433 and herrera becomes and misfit in a 433 that's where soler can play. And ozil has not arrived here yet. WHile i feel we seems to overrate peirera way too much because he is our academy player but he's 24 and still not a regular starter for valencia too. How will he cope up with our midfeild is a questionyet to be answered.
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    Fabinho will be nice as he'd be cover for Pogba as well as competition for Matic and Valencia. I think he's a bit too good for that role anyway.
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    I guess you don't follow Pereira? He's 21 FFS.
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    You can use a Soler type in the team because he can give you width in that system and stretch the opposition, especially in games where Valencia is being kept back, and we need to find a way to get Pogba cover in this squad, which is hard to do unless they have another starting position.
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    Devil may care Full Member

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    Fabinho is a DM, he wont offer the cover for Pogba that Soler does and can't play on the RW either.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    And what if Matic gets injured? Can soler play in mid 2?
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    klayton88 Full Member

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    It seems like post SAf every season has been "we need this next season". I'm longing for the day we go in to a season with a squad capable of blowing the league away. It's never just one player either. Seems we need 3/4 players every season, before realising they are not the players we needed and so we need 2 or 3 more next season. It's an expensive cycle.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    Saf's injury record was very low. I remember players like evra playing almost every freaking game. And since saf era Epl has become a lot more tougher because of different philosophies class managers and our bad transfer spending with wrong transfers where oppositon teams have taken advantage of.

    We have lot many sqyare pegs in round holes and that's why our record against top teams is not that good.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    I didn't say ozil can play in a 433, did I? I was merely stating the fact he is the third midfielder in @Devil may care's formation.
    The CM we should sign is going to play in midfield when we play 433, which I clearly stated is understandable if it is Soler. I'm not completely against signing Soler if he's going to be Pogba's backup.
    Ozil is yet to come here, so is Soler. My point is there's no justification in signing Soler only to play in as a wide forward - that role if for a wideman.
    Rather play Pereira than sign a 40m square peg to play him in a round role, while there are many widemen out there that has higher ceiling than Soler that we can sign for that price.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    My bad.
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    gives us the option of Fabinho/Matic behind Pogba in big games

    Maybe control overkill in 80% of the games we play though and we might do better with a box to box midfielder or more of an attacking midfielder
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Herrera will likely be the one if we don't sign a DM.
    @MyOnlySolskjaer's Sergi Roberto will be killing three birds with one stone. He will be cover for Matic, Pogba and Valencia. A player like Goretzka will be nice too as he'd easily play in a double-pivot with Pogba, while starting in the big games.
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    prtk0811 Banned

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    Bayern bound.
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    It's only normal as we are in a rebuilding process. We are slowly getting there as we already have 7/8positions locked down. Maybe three more windows and 5new signings will get us there.
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    poacher Banned

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    No Fabinho is a good addition to the squad because he's versatile. He would be a better RB than Valencia and can fill in the midfield whenever we need to play an extra midfielder or whenever there's an injury.
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    I was only pointing out the type of player that'd be good. Maybe we could still do something to sway him, who knows.
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    Actually, I think he can. Definitely not as creative, but he's got the skill set you need from a B2B midfielder and is a very good passer.
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    IMO we don't need anymore overpriced marque signings, we've spent enough over the last couple of years. What we need is to blend the squad together, let the players gel, cultivate that confidence & winning mentality back to the team, which I think we dearly missed since the end of Fergie era.

    Oh, and about injuries, should we be looking at the team's training, coaching & medical? Coz we've suffered from injuries woe for ages!
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    This is probably your first post in the mains? It's too logical man. With time, you will realise there's no place for logic in this forum.
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    Recommendation #1 Griezmann say 80 millions
    Recommendation #2 a cheap THE IDEAL SOLUTION :drool: for 20-30 millions

    - He is Argentinian, fantastic technical skills and vision, versatile (central midfield, left or right winger).
    - He would bring creativity and a lot of assists
    - Last week-end, 1 goal and 1 assist
    - Likely to ply the newt WC
    - He wants to play more and is ready to move



    I want him to stay in Paris but he wanst to move asap :(
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    Dante Turns into Billy Blaggs when drunk

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    prtk0811 Banned

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    Also psg needs to raise 80 m from sales.:D
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    According to some articles :D

    It will be easy for them to raise money:

    - Guedes is becoming a star in Spain: brought for 30 m. Market value around 40-50 millions
    - An English club is capable to acquire Krychowiak for more than 20 millions
    - Di Maria: market value superior to 30 millions
    - Pastore: market value superior to 20-25 millions
    - Lucas Moura: market value superior to 20-25 millions
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    Mcking Full Member

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    10?
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    MJJ Full Member City Lover

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    Midfielder/number ten hybrid.
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    I wonder when will it end? Every summer we feel the need to sign 4-5 players because our transfer business is horrible. And then a few months after the transfer window closed we realize we need to sign even more players to be a top team.