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What do we still need? Post Summer 2018 edition

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Devil may care, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. Dec 29, 2018

    Devil may care Full Member

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    Even if Pereira gets more game time, which I doubt will happen, I don't see him in that deeper role controlling the play, we've gone from having Scholes and Carrick to nothing in that regard, Matic as a squad player is fine, but not as a starter come next season IMO.

    I see the Striker as still having value in terms of being a fulcrum for the two wider attackers, in that regard Rashford has the best all round game but is not looking like a natural goal scorer and Sanchez legs look gone to me, I know the current narrative is he'll be golden now evil Mourinho is gone and that might be the case, but a lot of what he's shown since coming to United has been shades of latter day Rooney, a shell of a player. As for Lukaku, I think he's a poor footballer but has the best goal scoring record of the options we have, but is at his best in a team that will be attacked so he has space to run into, if we intend to build on the style of play we've shown in the last two games then he'll never fit as his touch and passing are weak parts of his game and we need to build on what we are doing now as that's how we'll beat the teams that just cram up against us, intricacy and speed of touch is going to be key, so I'd say the much maligned Lingard has more value to our attack in general.

    I see the six options you list and I think it's quantity but lacking in a real killer quality as far as a striker that can bag a lot of goals and contribute to the attack, maybe if Ole lets Rashford lead the line for the rest of the season that could change, but if it's still the same come the summer I think we should be looking at a striker as well for this team, especially since the RW options mentioned in most posts are going to be very hard to get, especially without CL football, and I'm talking Sancho and Dembele here, going for some of the others like Bailey, Costa, Lozano etc is just going down a tier IMO and I'd rather save the money until we are in a position to command the best.
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  2. Dec 30, 2018

    onemanarmy Full Member

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    Pretty obvious we need a CB, RB, LB and RW.

    Get rid of Rojo, Valencia, Young, Darmian and Bailly. I'm not sure Pereira is going to make it either.

    Should free up enough wages and shouldn't be impossible to attain. Promote Tuanzebe too.
  3. Dec 30, 2018

    Yorkeontop Full Member

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    An upgrade on Mata like yesterday. Juan was bought to be a stud but now he's just a squad player, we have Lingard for that and it's unfair to ask Jesse to do a stud's job.
  4. Dec 30, 2018

    christinaa Gossip Girl

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    Very obvious that we need to shore up the defence with two class players and maybe swap Darmian with Perisic from Inter - sooner rather than later!
  5. Dec 30, 2018

    Litch Full Member

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    This plus I wonder if we could get a more athletic and mobile Matic replacement.
  6. Dec 30, 2018

    onemanarmy Full Member

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    Perisic, that ship has sailed. Mourinho wanted him.

    Skriniar = Darmian + ? million.
  7. Dec 30, 2018

    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Centre backs - at least two
    Full backs to replace Young and Valencia
    Right winger - someone world class or as close to as possible to slot straight in to the first team
  8. Dec 30, 2018

    BrianMcClair'sBarnet Full Member

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    What do we still need ?

    A defence.
  9. Dec 30, 2018

    RedDevilRoshi Full Member

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    The following below is my dream scenario but before anyone starts jumping on my back, I do know it is not going to be that straightforward!

    Get Rid:

    Darmian
    Rojo
    Bailly
    Valencia
    Young
    Fellaini


    Bring in:

    Promote Tuanzebe
    De Ligt
    Sancho
    N’Dombele
    Neves
    Telles
  10. Dec 30, 2018

    Leftback99 Full Member

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    Sell any 3 of Rojo, Bailly, Jones and Lindelof and buy the best 2 centre backs we can find (don't ask me who). Must be able to head a ball.

    Any thing else would be a bonus but we also need new fullbacks, a midfield playmaker and a right winger.
  11. Dec 30, 2018

    christinaa Gossip Girl

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    Don't be so sure - Inter want Darmian, and Perisic always wanted to join us.
  12. Dec 30, 2018

    christinaa Gossip Girl

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    I agree.

    So Ed should have bought Yerry Mina in Summer for Mourinho.
  13. Dec 30, 2018

    Litch Full Member

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    Most of the players are really good squad players but if we are going to really going to challenge, we need world class players in the key positions. Probably need at least one CB, a RB and maybe an upgrade on Matic.
  14. Dec 30, 2018

    golden_blunder Site admin. Manchester United fan Staff

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    I think we will see Darmian, rojo, fellaini as definitely going.

    No bloody idea who coming in, depends on whether we keep Ole I guess

    IF we do I have a feeling we will go for DeLigt
  15. Dec 30, 2018

    Suedesi Full Member

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    DDG I get, but Herrera?
  16. Dec 30, 2018

    Devil may care Full Member

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    We need to get Herrera, De Gea and Martial on new deals ASAP in my view.

    The forward signing is the trickiest one. Martial/Rashford/Lingard/Lukaku/Sanchez/Mata.

    The 3 bolded players wont be going anywhere (hopefully in Martial's case) but I think one of the other 3 will have to be moved on to make room for another attacker, if we try to recoup as much as possible on Lukaku I'd go for Jovic, but if he stays then it'll be a wide player we go for to play off the RW, my worry is the best 3 options are going to be nigh on impossible to get, after those 3 the drop off is stark IMO.
  17. Dec 30, 2018

    buckooo1978 Full Member

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    you not rate him?

    I think he's an important squad member, second in midfield importance to Pogba

    he's not outstanding but is very good at most aspects of the game. He's got a brilliant attitude.

    if we are trimming the midfield I'd rather see McTominay, Fellaini, Matic or Periera leave - Fred is an unknown quantity

    I think Herrera is out of contract in the summer
  18. Dec 30, 2018

    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Watching today RB, CB,CDM, RW,CM think we’d be set after that.

    I like the look of Dalot and I like Herrera but feel like we need some improvements in these areas. Lingard needs replacing as well so he can take his rightful place as a squad player.

    Ndombele CM
    Dembele RW

    CDM and CB are a mystery to me, we certainly need people in there but I can’t decide who and DeLigt/ DeJong might not be ready yet or fit us currently or give us what we need even though I’d really like them.
  19. Dec 30, 2018

    Robbo* New Member

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    I’d probably have Jones out before Bailly, even after today’s silliness. Disappointed to see Darmian on bench today - would much prefer to see O’Connor on there. Think we’ve got a real chance to promote a crop of youngsters - Tuanzebe, Laird, O’Connor, Garner, Gomes, Greenwood and Chong - to the first team squad over the next season or two enabling us to spend big on focused signings - De Jong, Sancho etc - rather than squad fillers.
  20. Dec 30, 2018

    gza the genius Full Member

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    Center back and right wing are the two most obvious. I'm hoping we can get two center backs. After that it depends who we let go - we probably need another midfielder to begin replacing Matic and we could really use two fullbacks to compete with Dalot and Shaw / provide backup.

    Out should be Rojo, Jones, Fellaini, Valencia, Darmian

    In should be Alderweireld and another center back, preferably a younger option ie De Ligt/Milenkovic etc. Literally any right winger will do since we don't have any currently, I'll let the club figure that out. I wouldn't mind bringing in Wan-Bissaka to start at rb and let Dalot and Young cover for the fullback positions.
  21. Dec 30, 2018

    buckooo1978 Full Member

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    agreed

    I find this pretty obvious so hopefully the powers that be do too
  22. Dec 31, 2018

    Yakuza_devils Full Member

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    This Jan transfer window has been very quiet for us. Ed is not "leaking" rumours to the press anymore.

    In any case, it's hard to sign good player in Jan. Ole should work with the existing players and youth unless there are very good players become available.

    Let the new DOF and permanent manager bring their players in the summer.
  23. Dec 31, 2018

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    - Establish a small group of 2-3 people to take footballing decisions for the team. I would not just sign a DoF, since he can be a massive failure. He has to be surrounded by people who understand United, e.g. a couple of ex-players like Rio. Woodward should finally step aside.

    - This group should assess our current squad, our academy prospects and the footballing philosophy that we need to follow irrelevant to who the manager is or will be. Based on these, they have to try to find and convince their ideal candidate. And this has to start as soon as possible, e.g. if this is Pochettino. They have to be in constant communication with the manager to see that he adheres to the the principles that they have agreed upon regarding the footballing philosophy of the team.

    If they don't find this candidate or they cannot sign him it is better to stick with Ole, or someone like Ole, providing that the principles that have being set will be followed. No more risks like Allegri, Ancelotti etc. trying to achieve short-term success, just for the sake of hiring a manager for his name or fame. Find the one who fits.

    Transfers:

    - A leader at the back, we should not care about the cost. Better to pay more, if this one is going to improve all the other around him (like VVD). Koulibaly
    - A holding midfielder, who will be here for many years to come. De Jong
    - Finally, an exciting winger like Sancho.
    - Another source of creativity, experience, scoring and set pieces, Eriksen
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    onemanarmy Full Member

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    Would be at least a few 100 million, up to 250 million or more. Never going to happen.
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    ShamrockD New Member

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    They do not have to be signed in one window. For example, I think we should and could chase Koulibaly now, supposedly we saved a lot from last summer.

    We have to consider also the income from sales.
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    onemanarmy Full Member

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    You are right, but I think we'll first have to focus on certain people (Martial, De Gea and others) signing new contracts, offloading others (Valencia, Darmian, Rojo) before we'll buy other players. We don't have a DoF yet and have no idea who our next manager is going to be. I'd end the season with the players we have now, and let the new DoF and manager chose our signings.
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    ShamrockD New Member

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    Completely agree.

    But if the opportunity is there to sign a world-class player that would fix our issues, we have to take it. I don't think there is manager in the world that would not like Koulibaly if he managed United. The less problems he has to fix in the summer the better for him and the team.

    That is why the DoF issue has to be resolved asap.
  28. Dec 31, 2018

    Cathy Ferguson Full Member

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    Agreed. Sancho and Koulibaly are the players who we should at least target. An experienced world class CB and a super talented RW. Might even be enough to challenge for the title already next season. Replacement for Matic is also pressing.
  29. Dec 31, 2018

    Tony Banta New Member

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    What do we still need?

    We need, Martial & DDG, to sign, new long term contracts.

    We need a leader or three.

    Transfer wise, a CB & RW(right sided forward in a 433), are two obvious, weaknesses in the current squad. With today’s transfer fees, that could be the best part of £150m. But for me, those two positions, filled with quality, would make us top 4, but still perhaps a little way off, genuine title challengers.

    Whoever the next manager, he’ll need a healthy budget. Some outgoings, hopefully will generate, more funds, for transfers.

    So aside from those two positions, another midfielder (DLP) and RB, would be next on my list, followed by a LB and CF. So 6 in, but realistically I’d expect 2/3 ins, but they have to be, first XI top tier players, no more squad player additions, for now.
  30. Jan 1, 2019

    Devil may care Full Member

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    I'm going to suggest something most wont agree with, keep the powder dry in attack for one more season IF Sanchez can find some form in the next 5 months, then if Sancho is still tearing it up next season plow the budget into him in 2020.

    This summer go all out for the two Ajax boys and Koulibaly, and see if PSG will do a reasonable deal for Meunier who is in the last year of his deal. If de Jong goes to Barca as expected then Neves, Maier and Aouar are also good options.

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  31. Jan 1, 2019

    BazzaBear Definately Banned

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    The difficulty is that the astonishingly sudden turnaround in the last three games possibly suggests that we can't truly trust the opinions we have formed of any of our players over the last couple of years.

    That said, I really do think we need a leader at the back. I think a single player in that mould could be really transformative.
  32. Jan 1, 2019

    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    For some of the players this would be true. And for others not so much. Some players are better suited to playing defensive, off the ball football. Others are better suited to playing attacking, fast paced, possession based football.
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    BlueHaze New Member

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    I am glad to see I am not the only one who keeps mentioning Ndombele as the CM to sign. Sign him De Ligt and Sancho and we go for the title.
  34. Jan 2, 2019

    MikeKing Full Member

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    In order we still need:
    - 1 great, reliable and versatile fullback to take minutes from Young, Darmian, Valencia.
    - 1 great CB
    - Sancho at RW

    We desperately need to start with this quickly with or without a manager. Ed has been procrastinating, and its obvious actions to make so fix it.
  35. Jan 2, 2019

    SS Full Member

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    No chance of us spending that much, let's be honest.
  36. Jan 2, 2019

    Devil may care Full Member

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    How much did we spend in the summer that LvG took over? Chances are we'll be in the EL next season and fighting to get back into top 4 so our Adidas deal isn't jeopardized, that's when the Glazers will throw in a little extra. If we aren't buying an attacker then 2 CB's and a CM shouldn't be impossible, I put Meunier but I know Young will be starting RB next season.
  37. Jan 2, 2019

    Rocknrolla69er New Member

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    Persuading De Gaea and Martial to stay

    Then it’s time to shift some of the dead wood that are overpaid, which has made them difficult to move on, Darmien, Rojo, Valencia, Fellaini and Jones would be my choices.

    Leaving us needing a rightback I’d enquire about Meunièr at PSG
    A centre back if we can’t prise Skrinijar away from Inter or De Ligt from Ajax, I’d make do with Alderwield
    For an alternative base of the midfield option ala Carrick id enquire about Leandro Paredes from Zenit although PSG are sniffing.
    Leaving Sanchez to make the Right wing spot his own

    Meunier
    Skrinijar/De Ligt/Alderweild
    Paredes
  38. Jan 2, 2019

    Nick. Full Member

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    Meunier is not as good as this site rates him.
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    JohnnyLaw Full Member

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    He barely gets mentioned on here if we’re honest, Wan Bissaka is probably more talked about.

    We need a starting quality RB, preferrably in their prime. Meunier just happens to be that and is on an outgoing contract to boot. We’d be foolish not to look into it. It’s not like there’s an abundance of options out there but I’d welcome suggestions.
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    Roboc7 Full Member

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    Would be negligent not to sign a RW and a CB, it’s ridiculous we still don’t really have a RW.