Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by Bastian, Aug 8, 2018.
We’re all Negan.
Pogba being a success is news to me. Roaring success with regards to other signings!!! Seriously???
I'd consider Lukaku, Matic, Lingard (not a signing but still), Daley Blind (reliable and underrated, also got our money back after getting 4 seasons out of him) to be successes. All this talk of tactics and he's not surrounded by quality etc. is not something that I subscribe to. On his day Pogba brings a lot to the table, but most of the stuff that he does is the flashy stuff - pinging cross field diagonal balls, shooting from 35 yards, out-muscling players but you have to remember that almost 80% of the time these things are not happening and he'll be jogging around trying to hold the ball and then not able to make a pass or loosing possession. He looks more like a Fellaini with finesse during these times. Off-field antics are another con with him. His agent being another one. The dilemma is that we don't have any other midfielder like him to push him and so we're forced to play him regardless of his form. I really hope Fred makes the 2nd spot his own alongside Matic to reduce this dependency on Pogba and wouldn't mind Jesse taking that third midfield role. That lad is way too underrated!
To ask worthless questions?
What's funny ? They are both quality players, and Pogba's value ain't that high.
People telling things like "straight swap for MBappé" or "Dybala + player + player" are totally high IMO.
Anyway Rabiot is more of a drama queen than Pogba, and Draxler is one of the most inconsistent players around
Two birds with one stone when we get rid of Pogba next summer. First is to rid the club of the viral infection that is Raiola and Second is to rid the club of a luxury player who can only perform when he is not the main star in a midfield and surrounded by Pirlo's and Kante's.
Ruben Neves has proven in a handful of premier league appearances that he is a PL legend in the making. Pogba after a handful of years has yet to prove on a consistent basis that he can become the same. He'll become a superstar at Barca as he will have the likes of Busquests, Arthur, Vidal and probably Saul Niguez next season to compensate for his flashes of brilliance and lack of consistency.
Been on holiday to come back to this same old crap rhetoric. Handful of PL games and he's calling Neves a potential PL legend. This stuff is embarrassing....
If he has to leave, get Dembele + a load of cash and then use the money to sign Tanguy Ndombele as a replacement.
£150m + Dembele and Umtiti and they can have José for free.
Over £120m and a player thrown in. I'd take £110m and Dembele from Barcelona.
If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
Let's hope his value gets based on his World Cup performances.
I think sir you are the one going to be the one with egg on your chin very soon. It's like Jorginho, Naby Keita, Lucas Moura or Richarlison - just from a handful of appearances you just know very big things are coming from them.
Had a whole lot of stuff to say on this but decide to tone it down to.....feck right off!!!!
Only reason I'll take Pogba at Chelsea is if we fail to make Kovacic deal permanent.
What's the going rate for players that are excellent every fifth game, decent the next two and crap the other two?
I could answer you that Pogba is very inconsistent too.
Drama queen + inconsistency, Rabiot + Draxler, it adds up !
Seriously, stop the weed
Anyone but our players are good. Follow the naratives.
Dembele and £100m+ ? You do understand how football works, right?
Still- You should get rid of your manager before you get rid of a quality player like Pogba.
Point taken but Sanchez is absolute crapand he gets paid ½million pounds per week net!
Who's asking a world record fee for Sanchez?
Pogba is being severely overrated IMO. I doubt Juve would even consider a straight swap between Pogba and Dybala (maybe they will today seeing as Dybala isnt playing that much because Allegri is strugling to put him and Cristiano at the same time), let alone adding Sandro and Pjanic.
Agree with all this, and pogba has a mentality problem which not many top teams will want in their squad. I still maintain he hasnt got a good engine he can only pull a big effort out in about one in five games. I also thought he was made to look better in the French teams by having really good players around him. It would astonish me if we got back what we paid for him. I really hope he goes, he splits and drags the team down.
He’s been absolutely shocking for us, we’d do well to recoup what we paid for him let alone some of the crazy deals mentioned in here.
‘Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro’
On what planet is that going to happen? Why on earth would Juve agree to that?
200m. Let's see how much his beloved Barca want him then.
Face of the club !! Not in my eyes He is not, don't care if he has won the WC he needs to start playing like we know he can.
He has not improved, since he came here, was not that impressed with him in the WC.
For me and slate me if you want, he is the most overrated player in the world right now.
We will be lucky to get back what we paid for him.
The stats really don't back up the opinion he's been "absolutely shocking for us". He's been very frustrating, and he can be annoying to watch, but we are so much worse without him.
None of our players have....
"Shocking for us" is someone like bloody Kleberson, not Pogba.
No more then £100m, he's still relatively young and we can use the argument that everyone seems to believe - that's he's world class and badly used by Mou. I actually disagree and think he's an overhyped player - way too inconsistent and mentally weak to be world class but comfortbaly in the bracket below.
Stop trying to think of innovative swap deals, he should just be sold and then we should bring in someone like Pulisic.
He is a good player, not a great one. Anything over £100m, considering his inconsistency at United as well as his the behaviour of his agent, would be a good deal for both United and the buyer.
I would say 120 million plus a player (A decent one of course) would be good. But an ideal world would be that Pogba lives up to hype with united as well as france.
Nobody wants to be putting egg on anyone's chin to be fair but I feel like the list of players used to prove the point actually serves to do the opposite?
Jorginho, keita and moura all had fairly booming reputations to begin with and the other lad cost over 50 million.
I'm just not really sure about the point of the whole thing.
Talk down Pogba and then mention Pulisic.
His media haircut attention is worth 50% of that.
Pogba would fetch £150m easily. Remember , clubs are buying the brand as a whole and not just the player. It's a thing in todays world.
All these suggestions of £100m plus players is beyond a joke! When we bought Pogba he was considered one of the best players in the world, but given his inconsistency for us, you really can’t claim that anymore. The talent is clearly there, but we are still talking about him needing to take it to the next level. That’s not good enough.
If one of the Spanish clubs offered £100m, I think that would be enough. He’s a player who looks like he wants to go.
50% profit on our original investment, decent considering he hasn't improved in the 2 years we've had him.
Depends what team he actually goes to. He's probably in the top 5 most marketable players in the world (which he has us to thank for) so he's worth at least £150-£175 million in my opinion.
Real Madrid: Bale or Casemiro plus £50 million
Barca: Can't see them willing to part with that sort of cash and beyond their staring XI there's nobody we need
PSG: Straight swap for Mbappe
Juve: Dybala straight swap or Chiellini plus £80 million
This is what I would like to see when he soon goes to one of those teams. Most likely destinition in my opinion is Real Madrid who will want to replace an aging Modric sooner rather than later.
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