What's going on Arsenal?

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    ROFLUTION Full Member

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    I would be absolutely fuming if this was our club:
    • Their main 2 key players, just running out of contracts (and Jack Wheelchair's too)
    • A manager who no one really believes in. Probably also gone in the summer
    • 7th in the league
    • Not even taking Europa League seriously
    • Their biggest talent is Iwobi
    • Fail to invest big again and again and again.
    • Eboue
    So, where will they be in 2 years? how far will they sink? I mean what star players or talent wants to spend the prime of their career at such an unambitious club?

    Sorry if there was any other threads similar on the overall subject, couldn't find any
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    Reynoldo Full Member

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    Saw Cheech hit the underside of the bar right at the end too so they should have lost.
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    MaxiPaxi likes to shove his mum's boiled eggs up his rectum

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    Stan Kroenke, Wenger, DT.


    I feel sort of sorry for them. Actually, no I don't. Their fans become unbearable when they're remotely successful!
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    Wenger's coats need better zips.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    They're a club with zero ambition, and zero planning for the future. That's it. It would have been normal their guaranteed spot in top4 would be taken out by other teams sooner or later, because all other teams have future projects, while Arsenal board being delusional.

    Whatever our positions were in the previous years, I liked the ideas of Ed keeping trying, getting top managers and singing players to make us return, even if he failed at some appointments or signings at least he was trying. Arsenal aren't trying whatsoever, they have zero ambition.
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    K2K Full Member

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    Wenger will be Arsenal manager next season..
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    They're shite.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Still every chance they'll finish top 4 this season so I don't get the panic right now tbh, especially as Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool are equally as patchy but I would really worry if they go into next season with no Ozil, no Sanchez and no UCL because then they're looking decidedly more like a top 7 side than a top 4 one
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    Kostur Full Member

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    They've become shit because of people like Eboue.
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    Don’t care. One less club in the top six to worry about. Hope a few more of them lose key players to abroad.
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    He's said they'll have a chat in the summer and evaluate - he doesn't rule anything out. If Özil and Sanchez leaves, he'll leave too I think - He will get nowhere in the league without them, leaving his legacy even worse to end on a bad note.
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    Eboue nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions

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    no bueno
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    Goes without saying but, they really need to get back in the CL this year and hope at least one of Ozil or Sanchez stays or they're gonna be fecked. Trying to replace two world-class players who they've received no money for, whilst they have other areas of the team they still need to fix as well (CB, CM, DM) whilst not having CL football to offer.

    Also they have a bunch of players in the last year of contracts next season as well like Ramsey, Welbeck, Walcott, which means they've either gotta true and shift them in the summer or risk losing them for free as well. Or commit silly money (I mean what are these guys on a week, £90k-120k probably already) for pretty average players.

    I mentioned this a minute ago on another thread, but really their only hope is to get rid of Wenger and hope a new manager can come in and get the likes of Ramsey, Coquelin, Xhaka, Mustafi playing much better because they're likely gonna have too many holes to fix in the summer for one window.

    EDIT: Also money can't be seen as any issue these days. According to Transferleague they've spent ~£180m net over the last 5 seasons. Chelsea have only spent about £10m more, whilst Liverpool have spent around £60m less. Spurs have virtually broke even with their spending over the same period.

    Chelsea have won 2 titles and made the CL semi's, whilst both Liverpool and Spurs have come much closer to winning the title than Arsenal have and both are likely to finish above them again this year.
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    He said that last year too!
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    They're one point off fourth.
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    They won the passing against us
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    InfiniteBoredom Full Member

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    The way Arsenal were run over the last season or two you can be forgiven for thinking it was a deliberate sabotage by Wenger.

    Sanchez has been angling for a move for eons and Ozil was openly angling for more money which they weren't prepared to give. Instead of taking the hit of selling them and reinvest, he's done feck all and now they are getting nowhere with both in the team and will receive piss all next summer. That board ain't gonna bankroll a 150m+ summer splurge so it'll get harder and harder to get top 4 with each passing year.
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    They're a fecking mess of a club tbh. How they've let their two star players run down their contracts is quite unbelievable. If they don't re-sign which looks highly unlikely then they're going to have to either sell them in January to get some money for them or let them go for free in the summer. It's just a lack of competence from the board people who seem absolutely clueless to the manager who is well past it and should've left years ago but sticks around like a bad smell.
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    Shane88 Actually Nostradamus

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    Yep, fans will be annoyed with this season so far but I imagine the higher ups will be pretty calm about things.

    One point off their target and a plan B into the Champions League which they're one of the big favourites for.
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    Could still easily finish top 4.

    Self inflicted problems but likes of Liverpool and Chelsea haven't been that much better really this season.

    Arsenal in their current state are probably doing the best they can.

    Previous seasons they should've put up a much better challenge to win the league, not this one.
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    Cheesy Bread with dipping sauce Scout

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    Well nah, but Chelsea can at least say they've won two of the last three title challenges, and can generally expect to be in the mix. With Arsenal top four challenges as a high-point have basically become the norm.
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    U99ted Full Member

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    They are through and don't have to think about it until the round of 32 in February.
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    I know but I was on about this season. Arsenal haven't been great but Chelsea have thrown in some shocking performances alongside solid runs of form. Arsenal had the better of the 0-0 at Stamford Bridge aswell so as the table shows just a couple of points between the clubs.

    When your best players want to leave it destabilize the whole club. Everyone saw how badly Liverpool declined after Suarez went and Spurs also struggled for a while after Bale went.

    Begs the question Arsenal probably should've let Alexis and Ozil leave in the summer but then given they just had europa league they probably couldn't have attracted the same quality so it's a catch 22 unless people think Thomas Lemar would've inspired them to a title challenge.

    This season top 4 and winning a cup is realistically the best they can do. It's the best Manchester United and Chelsea can do.

    The season Leicester won the league Arsenal should've done much better, that's obvious.

    Edit: Wenger should've gone years ago. Only die hard Gooners would dispute that.
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    Sanchez has one foot out the door. His performances have been pretty disgraceful all season.

    Ozil has actually stepped up, even if it's just to get himself more money in his next move/contract but the whole atmosphere around the club has been strange. Wenger needed to leave after the FA Cup win. It's just all so stale.
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    Guy Incognito Full Member

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    Same shit different season.

    What happened to their 10 year plan?

    I just think they were ambitious as far as building a stadium and when Chelsea and City upped the game, they took a step back.
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    Kroeneke took over at that point....

    I actually think David Dein leaving them in 2007 stopped the club pushing for the best. Him and Wenger got on really well and pushed each other in getting good players in and going for title. Wenger's been on easy street since then with no one on the board really challenging him to get better finishes in the league.
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    Chelsea are a bit shit this year too yeah, but the point is that they are in a much healthier than Arsenal going forward. They have a better squad with more world-class players (well, they certainly WILL do by the summer when Sanchez and Ozil are gone) and they'll probably get rid of Conte in the summer, get another world-class manager in and he'll get said players performing much better, they'll spend a bit of money and be back to challenging for the title again. Even if they are somewhat in a similar position of potentially losing a world-class player (Hazard), they've got him tied down to a long-term deal and will get massive money for him.
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    Of course because Abramovich sacks any manager who dosen't look like he can win the league or compete in the champions league.

    Kroenke is building another ranch....

    Drive stems from the top. Fergie had it, Mourinho has it, Moyes and LVG really didn't so that's why Man. United had their differing seasons they did until those managers.

    There's little of that at Arsenal whatever Gazidis comes out with.
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    Steven Seagull Full Member

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    That was about as Arsenal as it gets tonight. Get the ball in midfield, few passes, into Girouds feet then crowded out trying to play an impossible 1-2. Was even annoying me and I don’t want them to win
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    I am not sure i would back Arsenal in a top 4 race against Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool. Liverpool are shit defensively, but they have Mane, Coutinho and Salah dragging them through, while Arsenal are struggling a bit offensively
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    LennonNL nipple flasher and door destroyer

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    Lmao isn’t it hilarious
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    You'd probably back Arsenal in the same manner you would Liverpool (i.e. great attack dragging through an average-to-shit defence) if Ozil, Sanchez and Lacazette were all firing, shame that two of them don't want to be at the club and the other is continually benched for seemingly no reason.
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    Well yeah, thats a big difference. Even if they beat Liverpool, they would still need to overtake one of Chelsea/Spurs, who are simply better and more stable than them. They are missing out on the CL for me, unless they win the Europa League
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    Sanchez has given up and doesn't want to be there, utter madness on Arsenals part not to sell.

    Ozil is going to leave too. Bar those 2, I don't think they have any real top players in their starting 11.
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    While I don't think he is an elite striker I simply don't understand Wenger's reluctance to start Lacazette, it's baffling.
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    yes! feck that!
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    T A New Member

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    *What's going on in the last 13 years Arsenal?
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    Wenger believes in players like Welbeck. Enough said.
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    ThierryHenry wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM

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    We’ve been appallingly run over the last three years.
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    GifLord The gif that keeps on giffing

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    Wonder how many of the players that have less than 2 years left are gonna get a contract extension.