Watching the season review 13/14 at the minute. Great opener against Swansea. Welbeck and RVP in fine form. Got hammered by City, lost to WBA (I was in Thailand for both of them). He then went on a decent run of 11 games without defeat. So when was the point when you said "nah this guy ain't for United" Was it from day one? Was it the City defeat, or the losses at home in December of 2013 to Everton and Newcastle? Sunderland in the cup? For me it was Olympiakos away. That was shocking and when I knew....yeah this ain't going to work is it.